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Title: Beyond the Number: What IQ Often Misses

To the first question, looks like I can just had no interest.
My visual/spatial results stunned the psychologist. I had asked her prior to the test had any one gotten a perfect score was on last question When she said pencil down suspect I was one question of perfect score. two seconds more. who knows.
 
Ronald Zeeman said:
To the first question, looks like I can just had no interest.
My visual/spatial results stunned the psychologist. I had asked her prior to the test had any one gotten a perfect score was on last question When she said pencil down suspect I was one question of perfect score. two seconds more. who knows.
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How many languages can you speak?

So your spatial IQ is around the 99th percentile? That's amazing! My visual/spatial results on the other hand are absolutely terrible haha
 
maleonolo said:
Well I'm not sure what my IQ score is... but I used to be very obsessed with it. As a student, if you did well in school the adults would praise you, put you in the gifted programme and tell you were destined for great stuff. As far as I'm aware many gifted children end up working ordinary jobs or even dropping out due to stress from high expectations. I didn't enter the programme, but my teachers often told me I was smart (I'm not sure if it was lip-service). As a kid, being praised made me happy. For me it defined my worth as an individual.

I do not know if I really was smart, but I did see 'dumber' people in my school who struggled with many basic questions. Being slow meant experiencing more hardship. I didn't want to be slow, I wanted an easy life doing the bare minimum and still coasting by. I took pride in knowing things without studying. What was the point of studying if I could just coast by? It backfired tremendously in the end because the material got harder and I lacked the study skills and work ethic to catch up. Ultimately, my dream was shattered. Perhaps a truly gifted person would've coasted by all the way through university. Perhaps I was an early bloomer and everyone has caught up. Or perhaps I was never smart to begin with. I would not want to live if I was dumb.

I remember a tutor telling me I was smart, probably because how quickly I grasped concepts, even though I forgot them the next week due to my laziness in memorising them. He recounted to me that he studied just a couple of weeks in university and did well. He was not the boastful type and rarely talked about intelligence in general, so I don't think he was lying. I could never achieve something on that level. I hate that I couldn't and probably never will. Because of my mediocrity, I'll be slaving away in a dead-end job just to get 3 meals everyday and a bed. I don't think I'm asking for all that much, I don't need to be rich, just have a stable and cozy life.

It was my experience in school that taught me being dumb meant having a difficult life, maybe even knocked down to special ed. I should've internalised the last lesson and learnt that hard-work is equally important. But to me, the point of being smart was to 'get' things easier than everyone else - at least in gifted people with a balanced cognitive profile (not disabled in some areas like processing speed or verbal intelligence)

I know that it's ludicrous to base my self-worth around a single aspect of who I am (if I wasn't just delusional). But it's not much different from being good at sports and being praised at it. Many of us want to cling to our perceived strengths and be proud of them. I wouldn't brag about such a thing either because I know how severely limited I am, and yes I know that my mindset is very naive

Sorry for the rant, but I hope that my explanation has shed some light on why intelligence matters so much to some people. Intelligent people are not worth more than their slower peers, but I do feel that they have an easier time navigating life
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lololzzz, this very well describes a rather self effacing Genious ,I do believe.
catching onto the school learning game early and coasting through intial parts of ,it .
There are different ways of educating humans finding the right one to hold their interest, is a different school of thought. all by itself.
 
JayCee said:
lololzzz, this very well describes a rather self effacing Genious ,I do believe.
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic haha, but I'm very average intelligence-wise. For example, my visual intelligence is only 106 (tested on Mensa online, I know they're not completely accurate but it's Mensa's). I haven't tested anything else but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be lower than 100. Looking at daily performance, my memory is pretty average too. My only advantage is learning slightly faster than others. If I took an official IQ test it would be a sad day 😂

I think truly smart people wouldn't be so insecure because it's just obvious how smart they are
 
Not having finished the test no idea if 99 or 99.9, just know I'm good at seeing things or connecting dots or getting through mazes, I remember the psychologist phoning me used words like incredible, could tell she was absolutely stunned, Did not bother me Always I could see stuff others could not, my dream when younger was to become a theoretical physicist, Now finding pretty strong evidence, may be related to Pieter Zeeman, who won Nobel prize in physics, 1902, plus Christopher Zeeman mathematician, who passed away I think last year, So the saying the fruit does not fall far from the tree may be correct. Only issue know is why did my family not regress to the mean. Suspect second family involved or more.
 
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I had no idea I was on the spectrum when I was tested 32 years ago, in the general population 130 is the top 2%,
If my family was bell curved 130 would be the bottom 10%. Now that I have Myheritage results can easily check who shares DNA and check on linkedin the education and career progression of my relatives, Just found out two weeks ago my nephew who just graduated master in engineering won award for top student. He had quit his job as he no longer needed an income, basically retired in his late twenties. University of Toronto top university here. Harvard of Canada.
 
maleonolo said:
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic haha, but I'm very average intelligence-wise. For example, my visual intelligence is only 106 (tested on Mensa online, I know they're not completely accurate but it's Mensa's). I haven't tested anything else but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be lower than 100. Looking at daily performance, my memory is pretty average too. My only advantage is learning slightly faster than others. If I took an official IQ test it would be a sad day 😂

I think truly smart people wouldn't be so insecure because it's just obvious how smart they are
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no being sarcastic,, have met several like you ,whom have seriouslyunder estimated themselves. Dometimes it is self image issues, other are given inappropriate tests that do not reflect , their kind of intelligence .Coasting through school is not common for many types of neurodiverse , persons. And if you ask anyone with. intelligence the mensa and online IQ tests .Only measure a specific types of intelligence, sadly enough .. .. And their tests are intentionally skewed that way. One person maybe able to name all the presidents of a given country . But hand them a plumbing snake , and even pragmatic ones may have NO idea what the device does or how it maybe incorporated in other uses. . The varieties of intelligences are quite wide and varied. I would have scored a 100% on a ASWAP test.
except , I had no reference for what a Stelarm might be ? Had done absolutely no studying for that type of test,ever. ? Never tsken a mensa test, and am sure , Might have done poorly . But over the years due to unforseen circumstances basically retired at 20 .
But wanted more so I just kept on. Life was a big curiousity to me. And went through much suffering but remained grounded and unassuming.And here I write here today😁Good luck on finding yourself .
 
You know what happens to child prodigies? Their peers catch up with them in the late teens and they are no longer "special" or "brighter than others" and they have a hard time accepting the truth that they are as average as everyone else.
 
Mary Terry said:
You know what happens to child prodigies? Their peers catch up with them in the late teens and they are no longer "special" or "brighter than others" and they have a hard time accepting the truth that they are as average as everyone else.
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“What a disappointment!😭 Since childhood, everyone kept telling me about my exceptional giftedness. However, not long ago, after taking an IQ test with a specialist, I learned that my abilities, alas, turned out to be quite ordinary – my IQ was only 109.”
 
Mary Terry said:
You know what happens to child prodigies? Their peers catch up with them in the late teens and they are no longer "special" or "brighter than others" and they have a hard time accepting the truth that they are as average as everyone else.
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For the more average ones yes, because academic achievement does not always translate to real world achievement. For true geniuses with a balanced IQ and no disorders that's unlikely. I don't know what made you dislike them so much, it's not as though gifted children are swarming the internet boasting about how amazing they are. I have not met a single person in real life who goes around flaunting their IQ and even on the internet it's rare. It was the adults who raised them with such unrealistic expectations but you're blaming the children for something beyond their control. There are far worse flaws to have like cruelty and being manipulative
 
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maleonolo said:
For the more average ones yes, because academic achievement does not always translate to real world achievement. For true geniuses with a balanced IQ and no disorders that's unlikely. I don't know what made you dislike them so much, it's not as though gifted children are swarming the internet boasting about how amazing they are. I have not met a single person in real life who goes around flaunting their IQ and even on the internet it's rare. It was the adults who raised them with such unrealistic expectations but you're blaming the children for something beyond their control. There are far worse flaws to have like cruelty and being manipulative
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What's an "average child prodigy"? :rolleyes:

There are child prodigies in my family. Their parents and sometimes schools fawn over them until their peers began achieving the same high test scores in high school as the so-called prodigies. They often have extreme narcissism and, even on this forum, brag about how smart and superior they are to other people. I pity them, not dislike them.
 
I like to paraphrase Pierre Burton It's not bragging when it's the truth. Apologizing for being bright not is not how you want to live your life, Just live your best life I lived my life not knowing I was on the spectrum was very frustrating changing positions raising education. Now retired just want to help others get through the maze. Either way bright likes bright why I like this forum finally found others who like physics. To me truth is what is important. Got pissed off one day Seeing people quoted as having IQ's over 200 to 300 so sat down put together table to show it was B.S.
 
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EIther way had a special interest in child prodigies, many become quite successful when they get older, gifted and genius are frequently mistaken for being correlated when they are not.
 
I'm not sure how to respond or how it relates. I don't think I know in person anyone who was a bright child and then isn't an very intelligent adult. On the internet... yeah, on the internet I have met people like that, but it seems like the effect of who you compare yourself to - it's frequent that people compare themselves to their family or local community as children and then go to a high school where there is a segragation by grades or talents into different schools and classes, and the stunents come from a larger area as well.

Also psychological testing is one of the topics that this forum revolves around, so people talk about their IQ scores and how they developed as children. I wouldn't read into it too much. Everyone has their stories to be proud of or ashamed of ;)
 
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