I have one but it would have taken ages... I didn't have much time to pack things... Dad had the sheet in his shed for years, so it was either save it and make I fit in the containers or chuck it.
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Talking About Trains...
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I have one but it would have taken ages... I didn't have much time to pack things... Dad had the sheet in his shed for years, so it was either save it and make I fit in the containers or chuck it.
Well, when being creative you gotta deal with what you got. Got the flu here
Have sent a PM.
Well. Progress so far...
The saddletank has been shortened. (I have included the offcuts in the photograph which is not needed). The cab has been filed flat and so has the tank ready for fitting. The bottom cab tab has been removed. Next I will be cutting a slot out the bottom cab centre in order to make the motor mechanism fit. Then will come building up the lower cab sections and extending the cab now that the cab will fit higher on the chassis which is what I wanted it to do. Hopefully it will all work out in the end!
The saddletank has been shortened. (I have included the offcuts in the photograph which is not needed). The cab has been filed flat and so has the tank ready for fitting. The bottom cab tab has been removed. Next I will be cutting a slot out the bottom cab centre in order to make the motor mechanism fit. Then will come building up the lower cab sections and extending the cab now that the cab will fit higher on the chassis which is what I wanted it to do. Hopefully it will all work out in the end!
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Thats amazing stuff, love to how he make trees ...
I had to file some paint off to make it flat ready to make things fit the way I want them to fit, so it will need repainting.
I don't know yet as it depends what paint colours I have. Also a little more filing will need to be done after I have filled in some of the holes.
Now it is also possible to use a 4 wheel chassis with this little loco. We call 4 wheeled locos where all four wheels are coupled and therefore driven 0-4-0's, and the tanks carrying water are either side tanks (Know as just T), saddle tanks (Known as ST), pannier tanks (Known as PT), well tanks within the frames (Known as WT) etc, etc. Locos with tenders where the water is carried on the tender as well as the coal or wood etc we call by not adding letters after the 0-4-0 wheel arrangement designation, BUT if I put a tender on with this locomotive, it's watertank is on the loco, so it still becomes an 0-4-0ST which is what it would be if it didn't have a tender, as technically it can operate on its own even though one may not get so far without so much coal!
Now if I use a 6 wheel chassis, it becomes an 0-6-0 etc. The 0 part on either side show that there are no additional wheels ahead or behind the driven wheels. If there was an additional pair of unpowered wheels ahead of 4 driving wheels it would become a 2-4-0 and if the additional wheels are at the rear instead it becomes an 0-4-2 etc. There are also some locos with more than one pair of coupled driving wheels so if there are 4 coupled wheels (Joined with coupling rods) at one end and 4 coupled wheels at the other end such as with a fairlie or a garat design then we have an 0-4-4-0 etc.
Now most diesels and electric locomotives have driven wheels that are not coupled with a coupling rod, so a different way is used to represent them, A, Bo, Co etc being used to represent each powered set of wheels and 1, 2 etc for each unpowered wheels, so while a steam locomotive with four powered wheels at each end may be an 0-4-4-0, a diesel without connecting rods having 8 powered wheels into sets of 4 wheels will be classed as a bo-bo. A Co-Co will be a 12 wheeled diesel or electric locomotive but not every 12 wheeled loco will be classed like that, as exceptions such as the class 31 in the UK has only its outer wheels on each bogie powered with the centre wheels unpowered, so it becomes an A1A-A1A instead. Confused? Well, some other countries and even in the UK certain railways used their own classification just to confuse things!
Anyway. Back to exploring my model locomotive idea(s). Now this can be built in 4 wheel form as an 0-4-0ST instead of a 6 wheeled form as an 0-6-0ST.
Below shows the possibilities...
[As can be seen, one can build this with or without a tender, with or without a cab and with the pistons in a raised or lowered position thus offering many possibilities in both the larger narrow gauge scales and the smaller H0 or 00 standard gauge scales... The choice is yours if you want to build one...]
Now if I use a 6 wheel chassis, it becomes an 0-6-0 etc. The 0 part on either side show that there are no additional wheels ahead or behind the driven wheels. If there was an additional pair of unpowered wheels ahead of 4 driving wheels it would become a 2-4-0 and if the additional wheels are at the rear instead it becomes an 0-4-2 etc. There are also some locos with more than one pair of coupled driving wheels so if there are 4 coupled wheels (Joined with coupling rods) at one end and 4 coupled wheels at the other end such as with a fairlie or a garat design then we have an 0-4-4-0 etc.
Now most diesels and electric locomotives have driven wheels that are not coupled with a coupling rod, so a different way is used to represent them, A, Bo, Co etc being used to represent each powered set of wheels and 1, 2 etc for each unpowered wheels, so while a steam locomotive with four powered wheels at each end may be an 0-4-4-0, a diesel without connecting rods having 8 powered wheels into sets of 4 wheels will be classed as a bo-bo. A Co-Co will be a 12 wheeled diesel or electric locomotive but not every 12 wheeled loco will be classed like that, as exceptions such as the class 31 in the UK has only its outer wheels on each bogie powered with the centre wheels unpowered, so it becomes an A1A-A1A instead. Confused? Well, some other countries and even in the UK certain railways used their own classification just to confuse things!
Anyway. Back to exploring my model locomotive idea(s). Now this can be built in 4 wheel form as an 0-4-0ST instead of a 6 wheeled form as an 0-6-0ST.
Below shows the possibilities...
[As can be seen, one can build this with or without a tender, with or without a cab and with the pistons in a raised or lowered position thus offering many possibilities in both the larger narrow gauge scales and the smaller H0 or 00 standard gauge scales... The choice is yours if you want to build one...]
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only a O4O ...THE OTHERS sound pretty complex...especially to model.. am no professional modellor ..but the information...was very good, am going to save the descriptions. of the different chassis for various Locos ...btw, am no where near your knowledge level. . So be patient with my lack of knowledge please.
Btw. Night Night Nicol ... or good Morning if that is when you get this .
Btw. Night Night Nicol ... or good Morning if that is when you get this .
Trying to remember, but an 0-4-0 has four coupled wheels via connecting rods, and if memory serves me correctly, under the old classification, an 0/4/0 was a loco that had four driven wheels coupled via gears. But if the same 4 wheels were not directly coupled to each other via gears and had separate drive motors to power the gears, I guess it would be a Bo? I am confusing myself here! It wouldn't be an AA as there are two pairs of powered wheels next to each other. If only one pair of wheels was powered one would think it would be an A1 or a 1A, BUT then it slips into the 0-2-2 caragory or the 2-2-0 category depending which way round its front is... OR would it be in the 0/2/2 or 2/2/0 catagory? Uhmmm.
Haha! I am confusing myself with thinking what it would be! As technically some steam locos I know of which were designated as 0-2-2's could have been 0/2/2's BUT maybe their internal or external piston rods made them classed as an 0-2-2 instead, though it gets confusing.
So best stick to simplify things! Well JayCee, your little green loco is an 0-4-0 ST, as it has a saddle tank and all four wheels are coupled. That is all you need to know!
I am confusing myself here! It wouldn't be an AA as there are two pairs of powered wheels next to each other. If only one pair of wheels was powered one would think it would be an A1 or a 1A, BUT then it slips into the 0-2-2 caragory or the 2-2-0 category depending which way round its front is... OR would it be in the 0/2/2 or 2/2/0 catagory? Uhmmm. Haha! I am confusing myself with thinking what it would be! As technically some steam locos I know of which were designated as 0-2-2's could have been 0/2/2's BUT maybe their internal or external piston rods made them classed as an 0-2-2 instead, though it gets confusing.
So best stick to simplify things! Well JayCee, your little green loco is an 0-4-0 ST, as it has a saddle tank and all four wheels are coupled. That is all you need to know!
Ok... Taking a break from the loco project for now, and taking a look at the coach that came with it, it is interesting to convert each coach to make two smaller coaches. (These toy coaches come in red and blue, and only have doors on one of their sides. I show a blue one to show what they look like before conversion commences. Photo shows the blue coach on the non-door side).
In order to do this effectively, disassembly first begins. Then one prepares the body of the coach by filing/sanding down the roof.
After this, one then cuts the body into slots to form two three window portions, the idea being that one moves the smaller window to the centre to form a door. One then re-glues these together to form new carriage sides.
In order to do this effectively, disassembly first begins. Then one prepares the body of the coach by filing/sanding down the roof.
After this, one then cuts the body into slots to form two three window portions, the idea being that one moves the smaller window to the centre to form a door. One then re-glues these together to form new carriage sides.
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Yes. They start life as push-along toys...
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