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[lunarious]

I don't take help from dis-Believers, i also do not attack them. But ... i don't want them to Defenestrate me or submitt me to The Ground nor any "help" from them. As they are dirty and symbolically Dogs. Dogs are dirty. ... Some Muslims has Dogs, somehow.

I don't want them killing Muslims or anyone whom adheres to God and asks him for help.

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Farting in western cultures does not rise to the occasion of a civil wrong in any context.

I adressed farting. Stay on topic @Judge if you can

 

[Judge]

I don't take help from dis-Believers, i also do not attack them. But ... i don't want them to Defenestrate me or submitt me to The Ground nor any "help" from them. As they are dirty and symbolically Dogs. Dogs are dirty. ... Some Muslims has Dogs, somehow.

I don't want them killing Muslims or anyone whom adheres to God and asks him for help.

I adressed farting. Stay on topic @Judge if you can

You're busted. I am on topic. Your religious views and values do not match the nation and culture you presently reside in. And you have no recourse. That's all...a scenario that does not reflect discrimination or persecution no matter what obscure term you choose to call it.

If someone farts you simply have the choice of leaving. No differently than if one were to light up a cigarette in front of me. Though I just wouldn't recommend jumping out of any moving vehicle.

 

[Aspychata]

@lunarious , be more tolerant of other schools of thought. You may not agree with others, but we are all tolerant of others, and don't claim our religion is better than yours. Everyone has the freedom to celebrate and practice their faith in the US. Thank you for coming to this forum, and it seems you are more trusting and less threatening since you have been here, that's all good.

 

[lunarious]

You're busted. I am on topic. Your religious views and values do not match the nation and culture you presently reside in. And you have no recourse. That's all...a scenario that does not reflect discrimination or persecution no matter what obscure term you choose to call it.

If someone farts you simply have the choice of leaving. No differently than if one were to light up a cigarette in front of me. Though I just wouldn't recommend jumping out of any moving vehicle.

If you desire to Defenestrate me again, that the generosity of dis-Believers.

Of course: You can chose to be Christian or Jew or Muslim or dis-Believer, or Buddhist, anything, i don't know you. But you must follow The Rules.

Defenestration in my case is Physical. Waking up is Physical. .. Praying is a physical movement. Sport is also Physical. Truthfully; I'm Physically un-fit now.

 

[Judge]

Of course: You can chose to be Christian or Jew or Muslim or dis-Believer, or Buddhist, anything, i don't know you. But you must follow The Rules.

You have to follow the civil and criminal laws of the nation you reside in first and foremost. Religion may come as a distant second- even third as long as you remain in a western culture.

And violating a prevailing culture you are in as a guest is usually a very bad idea. That's all. With or without any religious considerations. And of course, this goes both ways depending on the guest and the host nation. Something many Americans have issues with as well.

 

[lunarious]

@lunarious , be more tolerant of other schools of thought. You may not agree with others, but we are all tolerant of others, and don't claim our religion is better than yours. Everyone has the freedom to celebrate and practice their faith in the US. Thank you for coming to this forum, and it seems you are more trusting and less threatening since you have been here, that's all good.

Did I say my Religion is better than otherss? ... But since you are taking this up: linguistically Believer is asserting that e.g. I am Believer. Whereas dis-Believer is negating Believing The Deity.

dis-Believers base themselves on Believers. ... so people here so-called Norwegians based themselves on me Physically, and they don't know why they did it. They don't know why they submitted me to The Ground, certainly not because I was voilent. But ... i was a kid. A young Professor aka ASD 1.

Now it happens that I claim Negative may be good. In itself.

 

[lunarious]

You have to follow the civil and criminal laws of the nation you reside in first and foremost. Religion may come as a distant second- even third as long as you remain in a western culture.

And violating a prevailing culture you are in as a guest is usually a very bad idea. That's all. With or without any religious considerations. And of course, this goes both ways depending on the guest and the host nation.

We agree we must be good people

 

[Judge]

We agree we must be good people

I think that's a major tenet of any civilization. Though what defines us as "good" can vary considerably. Regardless of our own personal beliefs or sensibilities.

 

[lunarious]

I think that's a major tenet of any civilization. Though what defines us as "good" can vary considerably. Regardless of our own personal beliefs or sensibilities.

We've talked about that I was Electronician (edit) student in the past, on AF.

In an Electronical circuit there are many Positives, but they all return to one Negative. This Negative is called Ground.

Theologically, we'll all die and return to God. As we came from God. We want to leave good Traces after us. Easier said than done.

Edit: Imam Ali (as) said: Whoever anticipates death will hasten to do good deeds.

 

[Mary Terry]

I think I finally figured this one out. The OP is using this very obscure term to describe what amounts to a religious consideration on his part, in a culture that is relatively indifferent to such matters. Someone farted. In western cultures you can laugh or be embarrassed, or even annoyed. Your choice.

The problem here is the OP is applying his religion to this scenario, and treating it like a deliberate crime in a culture where it's not a crime, nor an intended deliberate disparaging of any religion or culture.

The OP is so fundamentally insulted he feels he is being discriminated against, when the reality is a simple. He is a political refugee in a nation whose culture and religion does not share his ire over something considered insignificant to his host nation.

You are a political refugee in a nation willing to tolerate you. However it is not willing to tolerate your religious intolerance. This is not about Defenestration. This is simply religious intolerance on the OP's part. In a nation and culture that most of us Westerners would consider quite tolerant.

What To Do If You Fart During Prayer?

Well explained, Judge. It might not have even been a fart. It could've been a bad smell from outside the car, an olfactory delusion, or whatever that he was smelling.

 

[Judge]

Well explained, Judge. It might not have even been a fart. It could've been a bad smell from outside the car, an olfactory delusion, or whatever that he was smelling.

Point taken. I sure know the smell of a foul-operating catalytic converter. The kind of component Honda swore doesn't wear out....but it did.

Though at first I have to admit, it had a somewhat familiar stink to it.

 

[lunarious]

There's no fart. I said that fart was a Joke. As a Psychological attack.

Because when I was Defenestrated my Heart beat Hard and Fast, and they knew that and were driving to a trip in Sweden. Right?

Edit: The Doctor said "I needed Air".
Edit2: See post #34

 

[Judge]

There's no fart. I said that fart was a Joke. As a Psychological attack.

Because when I was Defenestrated my Heart beat Hard and Fast, and they knew that and were driving to a trip in Sweden. Right?

Edit: The Doctor said "I needed Air".

They didn't attack me Physically but they farted a chemical that Forced me to seek air. ... But that's what this word Defenestrate is saying with it's couple or three meanings.

I addressed farting.

This isn't about Defenestration. It's something else. I can't imagine any occupants of a car releasing a gaseous substance intended to force someone out of the same moving vehicle.

Or were they all wearing gasmasks ?

Paranoia:

"Paranoia is an instinct or thought process that is believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety, suspicion, or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. Paranoia is distinct from phobias, which also involve irrational fear, but usually no blame. Making false accusations and the general distrust of other people also frequently accompany paranoia. For example, a paranoid person might believe an incident was intentional when most people would view it as an accident or coincidence."

 

[lunarious]

If you give me a like, i will likely answer you then. Because my friends are kind with me.

I'm Definetly Paranoid because I Believe Allah sees everything. dis-Believers and Devils do of course not Believe that.

Signature Logg:
7:27 ‘O Children of Adam! Do not let Satan tempt you, like he expelled your parents from paradise, stripping them of their garments to expose to them their nakedness. Indeed he sees you—he and his hosts—whence you do not see them. We have indeed made the devils friends of those who have no faith.’

 

[Judge]

I'm Definitely Paranoid

Agreed. Case closed. We're done here.

 

[lunarious]

Bye Bye ... Some other time maybe there are other dis-Believers (or whatever you are) whom want to spread kindness.

 

[Judge]

Bye Bye ... Some other time maybe there are other dis-Believers (or whatever you are) whom want to spread kindness.

This isn't about religion. It's your mental health you need to tend to. But you ultimately have to want to work on it. We can only point you the direction that you need to go. No doubt the same for the authorities who are detaining you.

 

[lunarious]

This isn't about religion. It's your mental health you need to tend to. But you ultimately have to want to work on it. We can only point you the direction that you need to go. No doubt the same for the authorities who are detaining you.

Who are "we" that you refer too?

I myself am a Royal we. (edit) I ask Allah to die/dye me with the good.

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When The Nazi Government stop killing Muslims they can start worrying about my Health. Right?

 

[Judge]

When The Nazi Government stop killing Muslims they can start worrying about my Health. Right?

For someone living in Norway you should learn a bit about a man named Vidkun Quisling and what the Norwegians did with him.

You have far less to worry about where you are rather than who you are.

 

[lunarious]

For someone living in Norway you should learn a bit about a man named Vidkun Quisling and what the Norwegians did with him.

You have far less to worry about where you are rather than who you are.

Do you think Allah will forgive you? Allah is all-forgiving all Merciful. And Norway is on my team.

You don't want to give me like. But you only need to acknowledge my Right. And be kind to me. I'm ASD bro, like you, and mis-understood.