Passport and ID, and money and Peace

[lunarious]

First, i'm not using any unreasonable words, or combination of words.

Second, i would wait for the after-life if they had left me in peace. But now after Decimation and Defenestration etc. i insist they must recieve punishment in this current life. I might supervise it. Percieve it. Make sure.

Because violence independent of who you are or where you belong is not acceptable. And death is good for they whom use violence and try to kill me. But i don't want them to die. As i don't like to kill bugs. Allah has something worse than death for evil people or dis-Believers.

Christians call it Lake of Fire. But i won't persecute the government. I will only Force them to un-Force me. And my people. And leave the sad people alone, eating wound rests in certain place of Hell as Allah says. Because they try to kill eachother.

That's how the world seems to evolve to. With higher priceses and war and .. such. I wish it didn't. But then you must obey me and Allah, not certain Politicians.

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

First, i'm not using any unreasonable words, or combination of words.

Second, i would wait for the after-life if they had left me in peace. But now after Decimation and Defenestration etc. i insist they must recieve punishment in this current life. I might supervise it. Percieve it. Make sure.

Because violence independent of who you are or where you belong is not acceptable. And death is good for they whom use violence and try to kill me. But i don't want them to die. As i don't like to kill bugs. Allah has something worse than death for evil people or dis-Believers.

Christians call it Lake of Fire. But i won't persecute the government. I will only Force them to un-Force me. And my people. And leave the sad people alone, eating wound rests in certain place of Hell as Allah says. Because they try to kill eachother.

That's how the world seems to evolve to. With higher priceses and war and .. such. I wish it didn't. But then you must obey me and Allah, not certain Politicians.

So, it sounds to me like you are just stating a position which you hold firmly and are not asking for any advice.

 

[lunarious]

I would love to have friends. But I don't. I would of course ask my friends for advice then, but i can't ask my enemies? My enemies are everyone whom are not kind to me.

My enemies are snappy people. This word is derived from snapping your kick or punch in Karate. Or "to snap" or get angry in English AFAIK. And unkind people.

Imam Sadiq (as) said: شِيعَتُنَا الرُّحَمَاءُ بَيْنَهُمُ الَّذِينَ إِذَا خَلَوْا ذَكَرُوا اللَّهَ
Our Shias are kind to each other; they recall God when they are alone.

Imam Ali (as) said: الِاسْتِشَارَةُ عَيْنُ الْهِدَايَةِ وَ قَدْ خَاطَرَ مَنِ اسْتَغْنَى بِرَأْيِهِ
Seeking to consult someone [in one’s affairs] is guidance in itself, and the one who suffices himself with his own opinion endangers himself.

 

[lunarious]

Based on post 18 and post 20 from @Judge and @WhitewaterWoman

I realize now Defenestration has two meanings: 1) Physical removal from position of authority and 2) Throwing out of Window

Both are True to me.

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Also I asked @Shamar post 16 and 17 but nobody answered me, including Shamar. He Deserted. That's your fault, but inshallah not grave and forgivable. Easily.

 

[lunarious]

Judge, I was pretty sure defenestration meant throwing out of a window, but thank you for looking it up.

lunarius, Judge has given you some pretty good advice and I would recommend the same.

It could be you have been treated horribly, with defenestration and other things, but you won't get treated well in this world if you continue your current language and attitude. ...

They are escalating.

I myself struggel with doing nothing AKA catatonic or stiff.

 

[Aspychata]

Yup, you live in their land, if you follow their rules, you may have gotten ID to leave. Sorry you feel treated less then. I hope coming here helps you feel more accepted. No religion necessary, or needed , to be treated in a humanely manner.

 

[lunarious]

Yup, you live in their land, if you follow their rules, you may have gotten ID to leave. Sorry you feel treated less then. I hope coming here helps you feel more accepted. No religion necessary, or needed , to be treated in a humanely manner.

I live in Norway as Political Refugee. I earned my spot. So i'm not begging losers on "their land" to treat me well. I'm more Norwegian than them. This scares them, that i'm above them. (edit) they and their friends are killing people globally if you see news.

So they Defenestrated me. To begin with i'm oblivious of above/under, but my Position scared them.

EA1 says, "I don't understand what you are saying". I tell him, right, you don't understand why you submitted me to the ground and Defenestrated me, you don't know. But you were not Human you I didn't attack you like you say yourself, meaning you were scared. Whereas i shared with you what I had.

So when you don't know and approach me, you must follow my Rules. I know as much as you do, i do not have a hidden agenda.

 

[Aspychata]

Didn't the forum have a discussion about using the word Defenestrated? That can cause lots of issues. You can't assume to be almighty, that's a delusional path to walk. Trying to twist everything into a control issue then cover it up as your relgious
dogma will get you banned anywhere. Living self-righteously and imposing your control on others will net you zero. It then turns narcissistic, and unfeeling. To step outside of oneself, and to help others with no judgment is a better path to be on.

 

[lunarious]

Didn't the forum have a discussion about using the word Defenestrated? That can cause lots of issues. You can't assume to be almighty, that's a delusional path to walk. Trying to twist everything into a control issue then cover it up as your relgious
dogma will get you banned anywhere.

I'm not twisting anything. I'm ASD like you. First i'm Muslim. This is a Religious Forum.

And i'm talking about a Merciful God, with great punishment/vengance for diobedient people. I'm not trying to convert anyone, you can make that choise. I can't control God.

 

[lunarious]

Didn't the forum have a discussion about using the word Defenestrated?

I wasn't informed about that. But minorities are more prone to be Defenestrated or die in the process.

 

[Aspychata]

You seem obsessive about all the wrong things in life. Could you obess with helping others, and getting along instead of calling everyone out just because it doesn't align with your personal belief system? I think when l became more accepting that there are a lot of imperfect people including myself, the door finally opened up to more understanding.

 

[Mary Terry]

Well, they were all bad things (edit: that you mention). They persecuted me, they call it "follow me up". But i'm not a dog to drag them up.

And certainly they also discriminated me in a way, when you are dis-believer you do evil or bad things. I told them Believers are more superior than dis-Believers in power of their good deeds.

Also they threw me out of the car in 70 or 80 km/t. Defenetration. Physically they could have thrown me out of a high building. At the moment i was Defenestrated my heart pumped Hard and fast, they knew it, yet they were driving me to a trip to Sweden. Long story.

Are you sure you didn't jump out the window yourself? I don't believe Norwegians would throw you out the window of a moving car.

 

[Mary Terry]

First, i'm not using any unreasonable words, or combination of words.

Second, i would wait for the after-life if they had left me in peace. But now after Decimation and Defenestration etc. i insist they must recieve punishment in this current life. I might supervise it. Percieve it. Make sure.

Because violence independent of who you are or where you belong is not acceptable. And death is good for they whom use violence and try to kill me. But i don't want them to die. As i don't like to kill bugs. Allah has something worse than death for evil people or dis-Believers.

Christians call it Lake of Fire. But i won't persecute the government. I will only Force them to un-Force me. And my people. And leave the sad people alone, eating wound rests in certain place of Hell as Allah says. Because they try to kill eachother.

That's how the world seems to evolve to. With higher priceses and war and .. such. I wish it didn't. But then you must obey me and Allah, not certain Politicians.

If you are involuntarily committed to a mental hospital in Norway (my understanding), then, yes, you are subject to rules and procedures in the place where you are confined. YOU may consider those rules and procedures to be wrong, but the people who have to deal with and take care of the mentally ill see it differently than you do.

Why don't you focus on improving your mental health? Maybe someday you will recover your mental health sufficiently so that they will release you.

 

[lunarious]

@WhitewaterWoman Do i want to help obeise or fatty people get more fat? Do i want to be hungry?

Because i'm not getting what I need. I can't eat swine.

@Mary Terry Are you sure you didn't jump out the window yourself? I don't believe Norwegians would throw you out the window of a moving car.

Yes. Right. I jumped out of the car. I struggel with expressing this Right. We are all dumb and need God and good.

The Doctor whom was Norwegian, like me, said I needed Air. They didn't attack me Physically but they farted a chemical that Forced me to seek air. ... But that's what this word Defenestrate is saying with it's couple or three meanings.

 

[Aspychata]

The medical community is allowed to medicate you if in their expertise than you may need medication until therapy can bring you more understanding of simple concepts, like working with others to get to a better place mentally, spiritually.

 

[lunarious]

If you are involuntarily committed to a mental hospital in Norway (my understanding), then, yes, you are subject to rules and procedures in the place where you are confined. YOU may consider those rules and procedures to be wrong, but the people who have to deal with and take care of the mentally ill see it differently than you do.

Why don't you focus on improving your mental health? Maybe someday you will recover your mental health sufficiently so that they will release you.

You and they can think or say whatever you want. But you can not kill or try to kill people.

If i had died by Defenestration, you would say i'm mentally ill. But i didn't.

This is like when they killed witches for doing magic in Medivial ages. My teacher in Norway said when people suspected a female for being a witch they tied a rock to her feet and threw her into the OCEAN, and if they found out she didn't drown she was a witch. But they never found out.

The medical community is allowed to medicate you if in their expertise than you may need medication until therapy can bring you more understanding of simple concepts, like working with others to get to a better place mentally, spiritually.

Trying to kill a Royal Gard is not allowed though.

 

[Judge]

I wasn't informed about that. But minorities are more prone to be Defenestrated or die in the process.

I think I finally figured this one out. The OP is using this very obscure term to describe what amounts to a religious consideration on his part, in a culture that is relatively indifferent to such matters. Someone farted. In western cultures you can laugh or be embarrassed, or even annoyed. Your choice.

The problem here is the OP is applying his religion to this scenario, and treating it like a deliberate crime in a culture where it's not a crime, nor an intended deliberate disparaging of any religion or culture.

The OP is so fundamentally insulted he feels he is being discriminated against, when the reality is a simple. He is a political refugee in a nation whose culture and religion does not share his ire over something considered insignificant to his host nation.

You are a political refugee in a nation willing to tolerate you. However it is not willing to tolerate your religious intolerance. This is not about Defenestration. This is simply religious intolerance on the OP's part. In a nation and culture that most of us Westerners would consider quite tolerant.

What To Do If You Fart During Prayer?

 

[lunarious]

Right.

Jews and Christians and Muslims, treat other people wrong. I'm not sure why you would say i'm Religiously Intolerant through, i don't think you know either.

Because we don't know I myself pray to The Creator and Originator whom knows. He is One he is Allah.

Farting is more a Joke. Symbolically it means Chemical Attack.

Go ahead testing me. But be kind. Without being a bad man or bad woman.

(edit) som people are killing people and starving them. Look at the News.

 

[Aspychata]

Some profund thinking, l hope the OP will use this breakdown by @Judge to understand he is not being targeted, that iits his faulty thinking that isn't helping him. Norway is an extremely tolerant country. Faulty thinking can take place if we don't feel understood or accepted anywhere.

 

[Judge]

Some profund thinking, l hope the OP will use this breakdown by @Judge to understand he is not being targeted, that iits his faulty thinking that isn't helping him. Norway is an extremely tolerant country. Faulty thinking can take place if we don't feel understood or accepted anywhere.

I'd add one other thing. That even in nations with specific religious rights and freedoms, such rights don't likely extend to something this which is considered happenstance, as opposed to a form of deliberate religious contempt.

Farting in western cultures does not rise to the occasion of a civil wrong in any context.