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Oops, l think our roofer decided to take the money and split

Aspychata

Aspychata

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So we have a small job in the sense that the entire roof dosen't need replacing. However l am not getting straight answers from one of the team people. l couldn't get a timeline of when project materials would arrive. So l am now waiting for another quote from a reputable roofing company. It's surprising since they seemed like they were honest. Sadly, l do read about people being taken advantage of. In Tampa, they arrested about 21 contractors who just took money and didn't complete the job. We can't do it ourselves, l am pretty sure we would both fall off our ladder. They just arrested a contractor in our area who took 10,000 plus to complete a pool, and they would dig a giant hole and then dissappear. Quite a few people are missing a lot of money.

Anybody else have contractor horror stories?
 
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They should be bent over a knee and spanked vigorously. It's so common these days, people pretending to do some work and stealing peoples money. $10 000 to upgrade a roof, easy money.
 
Aspychata said:
So we have a small job in the sense that the entire roof dosen't need replacing. However l am not getting straight answers from one of the team people. l couldn't get a timeline of when project materials would arrive. So l am now waiting for another quote from a reputable roofing company. It's surprising since they seemed like they were honest. Sadly, l do read about people being taken advantage of. In Tampa, they arrested about 21 contractors who just took money and didn't complete the job. We can't do it ourselves, l am pretty sure we would both fall off our ladder. They just arrested a contractor in our area who took 10,000 plus to complete a pool, and they would dig a giant hole and then dissappear. Quite a few people are missing a lot of money.

Anybody else have contractor horror stories?
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These construction frauds are always rampant after hurricanes and other natural disasters. Always make sure that the contractor is licensed and in good standing with the State agency that governs them and are insured. I always request a copy of their insurance binder page or whatever it's called. @Judge could fill us in on what to ask for when considering hiring a contractor.
 
Mary Terry said:
These construction frauds are always rampant after hurricanes and other natural disasters. Always make sure that the contractor is licensed and in good standing with the State agency that governs them and are insured. I always request a copy of their insurance binder page or whatever it's called. @Judge could fill us in on what to ask for when considering hiring a contractor.
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That would be a good idea. I have a lot of home repair and money to do it, but am never confident about how to find a trustworthy contractor (cheating contractors is a MASSIVE problem where I live).
 
Mary Terry said:
I always request a copy of their insurance binder page or whatever it's called. @Judge could fill us in on what to ask for when considering hiring a contractor.
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Technically a binder serves as temporary documentation of proof of insurance before coverage is formally written and a certificate of insurance serves as proof of existing coverage already in place.

Ideally it's prudent to ask for a certificate of insurance reflecting both liability coverage and workers compensation from a contractor doing work on your dwelling. With you named as an additional insured on the certificate of insurance, formally recognized and agreed to by their insurer. (With a roofer you especially want to make sure they have their own workers compensation.)

If a contractor balks at such a request, you might rethink it depending on the total value of the work estimated to be done. Though I can only elaborate on work and standards done in California- not Florida. Given the nature and frequency of cat losses in Florida I'd think exposure to fraud is far greater in general.
 
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Mary Terry said:
their insurance binder page or whatever it's called.
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It's called a binder or certificate of insurance (COI). I issue several of these per day for our clients. It's a summary of coverages using a CSIO template that is certified by myself, a Level 2 insurance broker. This is in Canada, but the U.S. has their equivalent.
 
Oh no! I'm sorry @Aspychata 😕 That's an awful thing for someone to do to you!

I have known this sort of thing happen all too often. It's one of the reasons why I try to learn how to fix things myself. A roof isn't an easy thing to repair unless you can get up there and even if you can it's dangerous. Not something that I'd recommend.

We have a slate roof, I've figured out a way to replace slates from the inside so fortunately we've managed to avoid having to pay anyone. Unfortunately some unscrupulous cowboys got up on our neighbours roof and deliberately damaged ours then came and knocked on our door trying to drum up business.

I was on the top floor at the time and I could hear grinding and banging, then the sound of something heavy being dragged across the roof. Next thing I know there's two missing slates and damage to the lead flashing. I feel quite silly as I just dismissed it as sounds coming from next door travelling through the adjoining wall.

It didn't take me long to fix it but it made me so angry! 😔
 
Thank you everyone, it never occurred to me that l could ask for this. The amount we lost was not hudge, but money is money, and you don't want to lose it due to your own incompetence or trickery. Sorry @MildredHubble , that happens alot here also. People intentionally damaging your home in Florida to drum up business, it's more common here.
 
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I'm the kind of guy who was capable of doing my own work, Wife really appeciates me now knowing the real cost of repairs, slowly building list of trades people electrician , plumber, dry wall guy. Had to throw a couple out. I do not except sub standard workmanship.
 
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This thread is kinda timely :-) It's reminded me that I have a few slates to fix before the snow hits us in the UK. We'll be paying a visit to the hardware store tomorrow. This time the damage was caused by the neighbours felt roofed window box coming loose and slapping around in high wind. It's a bit of a squeeze to get to in attic but I think I should be able to get it done.

If I can, I might try to take some pictures to show how I do it. You never know, it might come in handy for someone who finds a slate or shingle missing and needs a (at least) semi permanent fix :-)

It's a bit grim and dusty up there but fortunately all the spiders will be hiding for the winter :-)
 
That's neat I once matched slate metal print so a metal roof could be put on houses rather then actual slate much lighter. Using fluorocarbon basecoat, ink and clearcoat, good for hundred years.
 
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Ronald Zeeman said:
That's neat I once matched slate metal print so a metal roof could be put on houses rather then actual slate much lighter. Using fluorocarbon basecoat, ink and clearcoat, good for hundred years.
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Wow, I wish I could replace our roof with that stuff :-) Our roof, I have been able to mostly figure out, is maybe 40-50 years old. I found a photograph of our house from approximately the Victorian era and I noticed something a little odd. It appears at some point about 1-2 feet of brickwork was removed and a different pitched roof was installed. It's a bit of a shame they did that as I feel it slightly spoils the look of the house.

Slates look rather nice on roofs I think, but unfortunately they seem to become porous over time and then they break up quite easily.

Unfortunately the snow came along late last night, so I'm going to have to wait until it clears to fix the roof or I'm likely to make matters worse. Fingers crossed I will get an opportunity tomorrow.
 
Every material has issues While I was employed, I was waiting for the printed roof to take off replace slate tiles, clay tiles asphalt shingles. Only company that could do it Monopoly. Issue holding competitors back was colour control.
 
Ronald Zeeman said:
Every material has issues While I was employed, I was waiting for the printed roof to take off replace slate tiles, clay tiles asphalt shingles. Only company that could do it Monopoly. Issue holding competitors back was colour control.
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I saw some people living off grid made a pretty good shingled roof out of beer cans. I would totally try it but I don't think the neighbours would appreciate it 😸 Our house has a bit of an "Adams Family" vibe as it is 🙃
 
MildredHubble said:
I saw some people living off grid made a pretty good shingled roof out of beer cans. I would totally try it but I don't think the neighbours would appreciate it 😸 Our house has a bit of an "Adams Family" vibe as it is 🙃
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I saw a solar collector made from beer cans filled with gravel in Oracle, Arizona at the Biosphere. It worked! The sun heats the cans, and the cans release the heat during the night.
 
I’m sorry this happened to you, Aspychata. Florida is, of course, notorious for repair rip offs especially after hurricanes.

Read Carl Hiaasen’s Stormy Weather for a hilarious accounting of Florida repair scams and life after Hurricane Andrew,
 
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I'm not familiar with building code where you live imagine the roof is pretty beefy to hold the weight of the tiles.
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That's what I was thinking. Wondering how much stress a frame roof can take under such circumstances.

Insurers might be skeptical towards it, depending on their policy terms defining "collapse". :confused:
 
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Mary Terry said:
I saw a solar collector made from beer cans filled with gravel in Oracle, Arizona at the Biosphere. It worked! The sun heats the cans, and the cans release the heat during the night.
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If it weren't for people freaking out over things they don't understand, I would try making loads of things like that. Every little bit of energy you get for free is a win :-)
 
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