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New diagnosed teenager very depressed

I havent stopped reading and researching about it since september when it was strongly indicated that she may be on the spectrum and that was the route cause of her depression /anxiety . She doesnt want to hear about any of it at the moment .

How long did it take you to accept ? What skills did you learn and do you still use them ? What as a parent can i do to help her through this ? Was school a problem ? How r u now ?
She masks alot and towards the end of the term she struggled alot and didnt go in alot ,i dont think she is able for the same social strain when school starts , any suggestions on how we can manage this ?

She won’t want to know about it at the moment. Even if it’s not a surprise and it makes sense as to why things are like the way they are, there’s always some sort of hope that you’re not like that and it has to be something else. That they got it wrong. And then, the acceptance comes in. And things do get better.

My official diagnosis is ASD with General anxiety disorder as a Co-morbid. I wasn’t told formally, my parents were planning to keep it hidden from me as they were worried about how it would affect me. I found out when things started to boil over and my therapist seemed to be hinting about things that made me a bit suspicious. I remember listening to UB40s red red wine in the car whilst we waited for my sibling to finish her music lesson and I kept demanding to know what was wrong. Until my mom snapped and told me that I had “Aspergers”. It’s not really a surprise that I struggled with the acceptance of the diagnosis. By how it was told to me, and afterwards how my mom couldn’t really fully accept it because it shattered her perfect world view at the time. I didn’t really fully accept it until a year later. By then, I had seen an ASD group, that I wasn’t ready for and I didn’t go back to after the first meeting, a strange church group were I was asked to be healed..yeah..awkward and rather offensive.... and a therapist Who was part of the institute that diagnosed me.

I did join a ASD forum and started posting when I became a little bit desperate to get some sort of “yes you’re like this because of this and I do it too” kinda thing, it did help that I had that additional support because at the time my mom was making the process of acceptance harder by her refusal and ....borderline aggressive treatment of me. Why she was like that I don’t know really, but i didn’t have a lot of maternal support for the first year post diagnosis, and it wasn’t until we moved again and I got the same diagnosis for a second opinion that she fully accepted it. I love my mom but I can’t forget that time. And my dad tried but he was working a lot so was barely home but they both did receive strategies and support from my therapist.


My therapist was good in that she addressed a lot of immediate issues, put me on a support plan and gave strategies that we worked on. Strategies and scenarios about how to talk to people, how to take public transportation, how to handle my anxiety levels with breathing techniques. Like if things got to overwhelming to recognize the anxiety build up and take steps to manage it — so although it’s highly dependable on a situation I’ve learnt over time to recognize the build up. If it’s minimal and I can do it, I do it with music blocking things out, if it gets higher I remove myself from the place. It’s helped because I haven’t had any public meltdowns for a few years. I’ve had a few private ones when I get too overwhelmed but aftermath is handled a lot more smoothly afterwards than it is in public.

As for school. Ha, well how I was referred to initially before being diagnosed was because I couldn’t cut school. Every school I had been to had left a long history of bullying. I did well at school academically but school made me extremely unhappy, anxious and pre anorexic and severely self harming myself. It wasn’t a great time. So it was a good thing that I was immediately put on to homeschooling. I flourished and without that I don’t think I would be here...let alone would have gained 3 university degrees. Homeschooling is a great alternative, And you developed a lot of skills like self discipline and good organisation skills etc. but you do have to find other alternatives for socializing like I did end up joining some clubs with the exception of archery club, most of them tended to be adults and not my own age group. It wasn’t really until I got to university where I mixed more with my own age group. And I didn’t party or do anything that was considered student life because that’s not really me. But I did receive excellent support from the university’s disability support unit and was assigned a mentor to help ease the transition between home and first year. Something I wouldn’t have got if I had my diagnosis hidden.

I didn’t think I’d do things like that, especially after being diagnosed. There’s a lot of obstacles to over come. And there’s always going to be obstacles to overcome. With the exception of 2020 and it’s fun bag of tricks, I do try to use the strategies I’ve learnt over the years. They’ve been ingrained thanks to a lot of practice although I do struggle with feeling tired afterwards, and whilst there are things that I can’t do like work in a busy environment or sometimes struggle with making friends properly I still do try to learn even if people are still a bit of a mystery. I still get things wrong, and I still have misunderstandings and anxiety levels can spike crazily. And 2020 whilst my anxiety was high enough so that I didn’t give the best I could be, I did receive a couple of job interviews, and I did get accepted for a few job opportunity that because of covid and restrictions had to be taken away....a lot of frustration there that I’m trying to work on. But I’m determined not to give up. I’ve overcome obstacles before, and can do so every time.
 
Tell her that many people in this days are better educated what autism is, and those that understand it secretly envy her for many of her skills (like I do). And I know it's not always the skill that are required in normal school but normal school can go hard on the nerves of the neuronormal genius too.
 
Background: I wasn't officially diagnosed until I was 52. I had always known I was different. I never understood people, in general, how they thought, etc. I never seemed to fit in. I never had real friends,...and didn't really care. I felt better by myself than around others. I never got lonely. I literally felt like I was from another world. We could go on an on. Growing up there was no such thing as an autism spectrum, ADD, ADHD, or any other "D". You were just an outsider with behavior issues. I have a bunch of sensory issues that have always been a part of me,...really,...when you don't talk to other people, you just think everyone else has them too, and it is just "normal". You compensated, adapted, coped,...or you didn't. Having being thoroughly tested and diagnosed, it was a relief and a God send. I could get answers and understanding now,...albeit as an adult in the US, almost nothing is covered by health insurance, and pretty much out-of-pocket. That's another huge topic.

At any rate, given my life experience, I am glad she, and you know,...and now have some framework to find answers, advice, etc. My mother still doesn't know,...neither do my siblings,...and no sense now as they probably wouldn't accept it anyway. I have had over 50 years of a "moral diagnosis", so nothing is going to change that in their minds. I am glad your daughter will not have to go through all that. I think, right now, she may be going through the various stages of grief,...denial, then anger, then acceptance.
 
She won’t want to know about it at the moment. Even if it’s not a surprise and it makes sense as to why things are like the way they are, there’s always some sort of hope that you’re not like that and it has to be something else. That they got it wrong. And then, the acceptance comes in. And things do get better.

My official diagnosis is ASD with General anxiety disorder as a Co-morbid. I wasn’t told formally, my parents were planning to keep it hidden from me as they were worried about how it would affect me. I found out when things started to boil over and my therapist seemed to be hinting about things that made me a bit suspicious. I remember listening to UB40s red red wine in the car whilst we waited for my sibling to finish her music lesson and I kept demanding to know what was wrong. Until my mom snapped and told me that I had “Aspergers”. It’s not really a surprise that I struggled with the acceptance of the diagnosis. By how it was told to me, and afterwards how my mom couldn’t really fully accept it because it shattered her perfect world view at the time. I didn’t really fully accept it until a year later. By then, I had seen an ASD group, that I wasn’t ready for and I didn’t go back to after the first meeting, a strange church group were I was asked to be healed..yeah..awkward and rather offensive.... and a therapist Who was part of the institute that diagnosed me.

I did join a ASD forum and started posting when I became a little bit desperate to get some sort of “yes you’re like this because of this and I do it too” kinda thing, it did help that I had that additional support because at the time my mom was making the process of acceptance harder by her refusal and ....borderline aggressive treatment of me. Why she was like that I don’t know really, but i didn’t have a lot of maternal support for the first year post diagnosis, and it wasn’t until we moved again and I got the same diagnosis for a second opinion that she fully accepted it. I love my mom but I can’t forget that time. And my dad tried but he was working a lot so was barely home but they both did receive strategies and support from my therapist.


My therapist was good in that she addressed a lot of immediate issues, put me on a support plan and gave strategies that we worked on. Strategies and scenarios about how to talk to people, how to take public transportation, how to handle my anxiety levels with breathing techniques. Like if things got to overwhelming to recognize the anxiety build up and take steps to manage it — so although it’s highly dependable on a situation I’ve learnt over time to recognize the build up. If it’s minimal and I can do it, I do it with music blocking things out, if it gets higher I remove myself from the place. It’s helped because I haven’t had any public meltdowns for a few years. I’ve had a few private ones when I get too overwhelmed but aftermath is handled a lot more smoothly afterwards than it is in public.

As for school. Ha, well how I was referred to initially before being diagnosed was because I couldn’t cut school. Every school I had been to had left a long history of bullying. I did well at school academically but school made me extremely unhappy, anxious and pre anorexic and severely self harming myself. It wasn’t a great time. So it was a good thing that I was immediately put on to homeschooling. I flourished and without that I don’t think I would be here...let alone would have gained 3 university degrees. Homeschooling is a great alternative, And you developed a lot of skills like self discipline and good organisation skills etc. but you do have to find other alternatives for socializing like I did end up joining some clubs with the exception of archery club, most of them tended to be adults and not my own age group. It wasn’t really until I got to university where I mixed more with my own age group. And I didn’t party or do anything that was considered student life because that’s not really me. But I did receive excellent support from the university’s disability support unit and was assigned a mentor to help ease the transition between home and first year. Something I wouldn’t have got if I had my diagnosis hidden.

I didn’t think I’d do things like that, especially after being diagnosed. There’s a lot of obstacles to over come. And there’s always going to be obstacles to overcome. With the exception of 2020 and it’s fun bag of tricks, I do try to use the strategies I’ve learnt over the years. They’ve been ingrained thanks to a lot of practice although I do struggle with feeling tired afterwards, and whilst there are things that I can’t do like work in a busy environment or sometimes struggle with making friends properly I still do try to learn even if people are still a bit of a mystery. I still get things wrong, and I still have misunderstandings and anxiety levels can spike crazily. And 2020 whilst my anxiety was high enough so that I didn’t give the best I could be, I did receive a couple of job interviews, and I did get accepted for a few job opportunity that because of covid and restrictions had to be taken away....a lot of frustration there that I’m trying to work on. But I’m determined not to give up. I’ve overcome obstacles before, and can do so every time.
That is an amazing story and thank you for sharing it , you are so courageous and resilient to have come through that with such a fantastic prespective . I am glad she has the diagnosis , to give herself some direction on how to cope and it has definitely helped me understand her better and has strenghtened our relationship . I have seen her come into herself also since the xmas and she has been masking alot less which is great to see . We live in ireland and where i live can be difficult to access adequate resources . I am worried about how the school will adapt to her needs when i arrange a meetinv with them this week . The school enviroment has been very destructive for her since september . As Tony Atwood explaine alot of the work they do with kids on the soectrum is around undoing the damage that NT kids do to kids on the spectrum . I heard her explaining to her younger sister that she was autistic which meant she had a different way of viewing the world . IT took alot for her to say that but this view she has of herself can bud and develope into acceptance but is fagile right now and could be easily undone by kids in school and for her to be able to process that and explain it could be really difficult and regressive . She deeply wants to belong and has no real idea of her own identity yet . She hasnt really talled to her friends or schoolmates in the last while and i feel that what she needs right now .... i dont know whats the best way forward ... should i keep her out of school for a while or will she feel left behind or send her back into a toxic enviroment ?
 
That is an amazing story and thank you for sharing it , you are so courageous and resilient to have come through that with such a fantastic prespective . I am glad she has the diagnosis , to give herself some direction on how to cope and it has definitely helped me understand her better and has strenghtened our relationship . I have seen her come into herself also since the xmas and she has been masking alot less which is great to see . We live in ireland and where i live can be difficult to access adequate resources . I am worried about how the school will adapt to her needs when i arrange a meetinv with them this week . The school enviroment has been very destructive for her since september . As Tony Atwood explaine alot of the work they do with kids on the soectrum is around undoing the damage that NT kids do to kids on the spectrum . I heard her explaining to her younger sister that she was autistic which meant she had a different way of viewing the world . IT took alot for her to say that but this view she has of herself can bud and develope into acceptance but is fagile right now and could be easily undone by kids in school and for her to be able to process that and explain it could be really difficult and regressive . She deeply wants to belong and has no real idea of her own identity yet . She hasnt really talled to her friends or schoolmates in the last while and i feel that what she needs right now .... i dont know whats the best way forward ... should i keep her out of school for a while or will she feel left behind or send her back into a toxic enviroment ?

Thank you for your kind words. It hasn’t been easy but having a diagnosis opened a lot up for understanding and support that wouldn’t be available if I was diagnosed later or not at all. It made a lot of sense once I started the progress of acceptance. It wasn’t a happy acceptance but it was acceptance all the same. I’m glad that you are such a supportive parent, as your daughter will always get the best support from you. I’m really glad to hear that she’s starting to process and accept it. That’s a great step. And it shows how resilient and strong she is to do that. If you’re able to find a specialist in ASD, I’d strongly recommend one. Although I don’t know how it is in Ireland— you may have to go private. As for schools...Your quote of Atwood is correct. I still have bullying scars from my many years of being bullied. Before homeschooling was an option for me, I had been moved 5 times, although a few of those were due to moving because of my dads job. Like your daughter I was very desperate to fit in, and it never really happened the way I had hoped. At the ages of 11-16, they can be so cruel. They’re going through stuff themselves but it’s not an excuse to subject another to abuse just because they are different. But sadly it happens. If the school environment is destructive to her, is it not best to take her out? I think it’s a good step to also see the school and talk about adaptability for her. I would also ask them about their anti-bullying Policy and how effective it actually is. If you’re not satisfied or reassured, then I’d suggest to look for a different school or homeschooling if it looks entirely too difficult. However, if she has friends, it may be best to keep her there as she has that network.
 
Hi Owliet

She has a therapist , not necessarily expert in ASD but mental health for teenagers , we went to the service originally when before she turned 12 as she was suffering with depression . It wasnt picked up for over a year that maybe she had autism as they were treating other things that they thought might be the cause ( myself and my husbands break up and her relationship with him) although at the time it didnt add up to me ,anyway a year later after her mental health issues resurfaced they suggested asd . In a way it was kinda lucky that she wasnt diagnosed before going to the mental health service as they dont take on ASD kids for treatment but as she was already a patient of the service they kept her on . Accessing services for Aspie kids is virtually impossible here. She has a very good relationship with her therapist , and there is a lot of trust there that has built up over time which I know can be tricky with ASD kids . I also have a very good relationship with the therapist and she is so eager to broaden her knowledge in this area to , motivated primarily to help the adolescents under her care .
She has friends but the relationships can be difficult at times and her ability to articulate the problems can be weak . She seems to be confused on the dynamic of a friendship and what constitutes a friendship .
She has no friends from primary level school and she hasnt contacted any of her friends over the break , she isnt comfortable divulging her relationship , really there are only 1 of the girls I really like and I think are worthy of her as a friend but she wants them and then she doesnt want them ...
How did the homeschooling work for you , I am a single parent with three other kids and i have my own small business which can make taking time off tricky . I could probably start working from home and doing less hours but in terms of myself , its extra strain on a system (me) thats already under resourced and under significant pressure , however she is the priority
 
Hi Owliet

She has a therapist , not necessarily expert in ASD but mental health for teenagers , we went to the service originally when before she turned 12 as she was suffering with depression . It wasnt picked up for over a year that maybe she had autism as they were treating other things that they thought might be the cause ( myself and my husbands break up and her relationship with him) although at the time it didnt add up to me ,anyway a year later after her mental health issues resurfaced they suggested asd . In a way it was kinda lucky that she wasnt diagnosed before going to the mental health service as they dont take on ASD kids for treatment but as she was already a patient of the service they kept her on . Accessing services for Aspie kids is virtually impossible here. She has a very good relationship with her therapist , and there is a lot of trust there that has built up over time which I know can be tricky with ASD kids . I also have a very good relationship with the therapist and she is so eager to broaden her knowledge in this area to , motivated primarily to help the adolescents under her care .
She has friends but the relationships can be difficult at times and her ability to articulate the problems can be weak . She seems to be confused on the dynamic of a friendship and what constitutes a friendship .
She has no friends from primary level school and she hasnt contacted any of her friends over the break , she isnt comfortable divulging her relationship , really there are only 1 of the girls I really like and I think are worthy of her as a friend but she wants them and then she doesnt want them ...
How did the homeschooling work for you , I am a single parent with three other kids and i have my own small business which can make taking time off tricky . I could probably start working from home and doing less hours but in terms of myself , its extra strain on a system (me) thats already under resourced and under significant pressure , however she is the priority

I’m glad that she has a good relationship with her therapist. And that the therapist is working with you and is open to help her with her ASD.
On the topic of homeschooling. At the time both of my parents were pretty absent due to work. At first I was assigned a tutor who would meet with me once every week for a good hour and then I’d work on the subjects via the booklet. Her role was pretty much support and not directed. She was assigned through the homeschooling program. But we arranged a timetable, with breaks, as a regular school schedule day.
 
Basically a diagnosis of ASD is the end of any certainty or hope in any other direction of life, and can be wholly disorienting for new parents and children more than adults most often. As such a process of mourning regarding the old self identification is quite natural, and here follows is a list of 'The Seven Stages of Grief' to give you a basic outline of what is going on for your daughter:

1.) Shock and denial.
This is a state of disbelief and numbed feelings.

2.) Pain and guilt.
They may feel that the loss / diagnosis is unbearable and that they’re making other people’s lives harder because of their feelings and needs.

3.) Anger and bargaining.
They may lash out, telling God or a higher power that they’ll do anything they ask if they’ll only grant them relief from these feelings.

4.) Depression.
This may be a period of isolation and loneliness during which they process and reflect on the loss / diagnosis.

5.) The upward turn.
At this point, the stages of grief like anger and pain have died down, and they’re left in a more calm and relaxed state.

6.) Reconstruction and working through.
They can begin to put pieces of their life back together and carry forward.

7.) Acceptance and hope.
This is a very gradual acceptance of the new way of life and a feeling of possibility in the future.
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Hi
My daughter got her official HF ASD diagnosis just before xmas , she is 13 , we knew it was coming for the last few months , she has had noticeable mental health issues since eleven years of age . She masks a lot , struggles with school interactions and has been missing a lot of school . But since her diagnosis she has shut down , hasn't left her bed in days , won't talk about it , can't sleep , won't even interact with her family and is suffering anxiety and dizzy spell . She hasnt left the house all xmas . Keeps saying she wants to move country or die .

I am sick with worry . She is seeing a therapist . I want to know how to help her . Is this normal on the back of a diagnosis ? I know I can't push her but I need to help bring her out of this depressive episode . She is not interested in reading about her condition or engaging in with others on forums . She doesn't really have any real friends or special interests . She use to read a lot but stopped that when pandemic started .she just spends hours and hours on her phone .

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated from a desperately worried mum !

I think school has to do with it
 

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