Kary Mullis inventor of PCR claims PCR test isn't designed to diagnose disease.

[Chonebox]

PCR Test inventor Kary Mullis got censored on almost every social media for the truth

Dr Kary B. Mullis, La Jolla, California, U.S.A., for his invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method,
Press release: The 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry - NobelPrize.org

 

[Hypnalis]

Thanks for the link (impeccable source

It's another way to look at the sensitivity issue:
DNA from some potentially dangerous organism doesn't mean you're ill due to that organism (and/or virus - not sure how they're classified).

PCR tests are so sensitive they can pick up levels that are far too low to cause any problems.
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This might e.g. cause misuse of DNA data in criminal cases. For example anyone close to you on a train, bus, elevator, corridor, etc could leave some DNA on you or your clothing by brushing past you, or even by exhaling in the same space.

So if Law Enforcement is allowed to use "any amount of DNA on a victim" as justification for assuming the person is a genuine suspect (and e.g. detain, arrest, or formally interrogate them), "false positive" are inevitable.

Personally I've never voluntarily given a DNA sample for anything and never will (because some version of this has been inevitable for many years).

But for many medical services they take bio samples, and these all have some identifiable DNA in them. So it's become effectively impossible to avoid providing a reference sample.

FYI the computer tech to do things like this anonymously has been around for decades, and the infrastructure would be far cheaper than modern payment-card processing (you'd only need a tiny fraction f the number of endpoints).

Sadly nobody cares about this except IT people (who understand the risks and the ways to resolve them), and it's not going to become politically relevant any time soon.

 

[Chonebox]

Thanks for the link (impeccable source

It's another way to look at the sensitivity issue:
DNA from some potentially dangerous organism doesn't mean you're ill due to that organism (and/or virus - not sure how they're classified).

PCR tests are so sensitive they can pick up levels that are far too low to cause any problems.
:
:
This might e.g. cause misuse of DNA data in criminal cases. For example anyone close to you on a train, bus, elevator, corridor, etc could leave some DNA on you or your clothing by brushing past you, or even by exhaling in the same space.

So if Law Enforcement is allowed to use "any amount of DNA on a victim" as justification for assuming the person is a genuine suspect (and e.g. detain, arrest, or formally interrogate them), "false positive" are inevitable.

Personally I've never voluntarily given a DNA sample for anything and never will (because some version of this has been inevitable for many years).

But for many medical services they take bio samples, and these all have some identifiable DNA in them. So it's become effectively impossible to avoid providing a reference sample.

FYI the computer tech to do things like this anonymously has been around for decades, and the infrastructure would be far cheaper than modern payment-card processing (you'd only need a tiny fraction f the number of endpoints).

Sadly nobody cares about this except IT people (who understand the risks and the ways to resolve them), and it's not going to become politically relevant any time soon.

With the PCR you can find anything with it. It doesn't mean anything useful.

 

[Mary Terry]

Thanks for the link (impeccable source

It's another way to look at the sensitivity issue:
DNA from some potentially dangerous organism doesn't mean you're ill due to that organism (and/or virus - not sure how they're classified).

PCR tests are so sensitive they can pick up levels that are far too low to cause any problems.
:
:
This might e.g. cause misuse of DNA data in criminal cases. For example anyone close to you on a train, bus, elevator, corridor, etc could leave some DNA on you or your clothing by brushing past you, or even by exhaling in the same space.

So if Law Enforcement is allowed to use "any amount of DNA on a victim" as justification for assuming the person is a genuine suspect (and e.g. detain, arrest, or formally interrogate them), "false positive" are inevitable.

Personally I've never voluntarily given a DNA sample for anything and never will (because some version of this has been inevitable for many years).

But for many medical services they take bio samples, and these all have some identifiable DNA in them. So it's become effectively impossible to avoid providing a reference sample.

FYI the computer tech to do things like this anonymously has been around for decades, and the infrastructure would be far cheaper than modern payment-card processing (you'd only need a tiny fraction f the number of endpoints).

Sadly nobody cares about this except IT people (who understand the risks and the ways to resolve them), and it's not going to become politically relevant any time soon.

Criminal defense attorneys routinely present expert witnesses to attack the veracity and significance of DNA evidence offered by the prosecution.

 

[Masked Man]

I'm not understanding the video but I'm assuming this is when he's gone off and started believing in things like astrology and so forth.

Because I work on a hospital campus, one of our goals is the protection of our patients, who very often are immunocompromised.

During the COVID outbreak, we used the PCR tests as a diagnostic tool. When someone, whether a patient or an employee, displayed either respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms of illness, we used the PCR tests as part of infection prevention. There are many viruses that cause a person to display these symptoms but by using the PCR test, we were able to identify which virus we were most likely dealing with (influenza or COVID-19) and then move to contain and limit its spread.

There is no tool that is perfect, but as with most everything else in medical science, it works pretty darn good.

 

[Chonebox]

I'm not understanding the video but I'm assuming this is when he's gone off and started believing in things like astrology and so forth.

Because I work on a hospital campus, one of our goals is the protection of our patients, who very often are immunocompromised.

During the COVID outbreak, we used the PCR tests as a diagnostic tool. When someone, whether a patient or an employee, displayed either respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms of illness, we used the PCR tests as part of infection prevention. There are many viruses that cause a person to display these symptoms but by using the PCR test, we were able to identify which virus we were most likely dealing with (influenza or COVID-19) and then move to contain and limit its spread.

There is no tool that is perfect, but as with most everything else in medical science, it works pretty darn good.

There was no pandemic during covid. That was a lie. Viruses doesn't cause disease, it is part of the immune system. They used cases but cases doesn't mean anything. According to the book why zebras don't get ulclers, the book talks about there two groups of people. Two groups of people both have the ulcer causing bacteria but one group doesn't have the disease ulcers. The theory is that the people who had the ulcer disease had weak immune system. The same thing with cancer. Right now you have cancer cells but you immune system fights against it. If you are stressed and eat unhealthy food your chances of cancer increases.
Viruses never been isolated by the way.
Dr Tom Cowan: 'Viruses' NEVER been 'isolated' and does NOT Exists! [06.02.2025]

 

[Masked Man]

There was no pandemic during covid. That was a lie. Viruses doesn't cause disease, it is part of the immune system. They used cases but cases doesn't mean anything. According to the book why zebras don't get ulclers, the book talks about there two groups of people. Two groups of people both have the ulcer causing bacteria but one group doesn't have the disease ulcers. The theory is that the people who had the ulcer disease had weak immune system. The same thing with cancer. Right now you have cancer cells but you immune system fights against it. If you are stressed and eat unhealthy food your chances of cancer increases.
Viruses never been isolated by the way.
Dr Tom Cowan: 'Viruses' NEVER been 'isolated' and does NOT Exists! [06.02.2025]

I'm sorry but I can't argue logic with someone not coming from a place of logic to begin with.

I work in medicine. There was clearly a pandemic involving a novel virus and a lot of people died.

And zebras do, as well as horses, get ulcers. This book was written in 1994 and the book is about managing stress. The title is referencing the incorrect but previously widespread belief that stress causes stomach ulcers.

 

[Wolfiedog]

It was all a scam.

 

[Chonebox]

I'm sorry but I can't argue logic with someone not coming from a place of logic to begin with.

I work in medicine. There was clearly a pandemic involving a novel virus and a lot of people died.

And zebras do, as well as horses, get ulcers. This book was written in 1994 and the book is about managing stress. The title is referencing the incorrect but previously widespread belief that stress causes stomach ulcers.

Doctors used to recommend people to smoke. Just because you work in medicine doesn't mean you're correct. Look at the disease scurvy where people died. It wasn't some bacteria or virus. It was malnutrition, in this case vitamin C.

 

[Chonebox]

It was all a scam.

Someone gets it. There was no pandemic, the media made it up to make money while killing people or getting them sick. The vaccine has IGG. Your system has IGG. Too many IGG apparently can cause problem. Fear mongering of variants, which is apparently less than 1%. I learned about IGG from a doctor who learned from medical school.

Another Study Showing 'Abnormal' IgG4 Antibodies in Nearly All mRNA Vaccinated Individuals

 

[Masked Man]

Doctors used to recommend people to smoke. Just because you work in medicine doesn't mean you're correct. Look at the disease scurvy where people died. It wasn't some bacteria or virus. It was malnutrition, in this case vitamin C.

Because I work in medicine and have actual degrees in health care does however mean I am able to pretty quickly spot misinformation. Medicine (and science) are works of progress. We learn something until we learn better and tech improves.

I know for sure no educated rational person gets their information from a site like Bitchute lol. Using a known white-supremacy and conspiracy theory video-sharing platform as a source is like wearing the giant scarlet A on your forehead for everyone to see. But I can understand why conspiracy theories and misinformation is popular among a certain type of person - it gives a feeling of power, that you know something "secret" that no one else knows. That's how they get you. I'm here to tell you that feeling is false. People who get their information from misinformation and conspiracy video-sharing platforms are less informed than those who get NO information.

 

[Hypnalis]

Because I work in medicine and have actual degrees in health care does however mean I am able to pretty quickly spot misinformation. Medicine (and science) are works of progress. We learn something until we learn better and tech improves.

Do you have any good links with data mRNA vaccines?
BTW I have no medical training, nor access to anything behind firewalls.

OTOH I can count, and I was once a statistics professional: if you can save 1000 people and lose 1 (or even 10) to side-effects, and get the reinfection-number down in the process (R0? I forget) then I will (and happily did during C19) line up for my vaccine injection.

I also get that they had to be a bit "economical with the truth" when persuading people to take the vaccine. And why. But it certainly wasn't easy to find good data during or immediately after the worst of the C19 pandemic.

A 19 story: I had to take a local C-19 test (probably PCR) after clearing quarantine (after travelling to a place that was almost C19 free).

They lost the test (admin issue) so I was told to physically go to the testing location (the main hospital in that city) and collect a copy of the original in person (modern country btw, 5G N/W, modern phones, email, ...).
I got my results (negative) from one of the guys who was operating the testing gear. I'm still laughing over the possibility that I might have infected everyone running the tests (and maybe others in the hospital) by following those stupid instructions

 

[Masked Man]

Do you have any good links with data mRNA vaccines?
BTW I have no medical training, nor access to anything behind firewalls.

OTOH I can count, and I was once a statistics professional: if you can save 1000 people and lose 1 (or even 10) to side-effects, and get the reinfection-number down in the process (R0? I forget) then I will (and happily did during C19) line up for my vaccine injection.

I also get that they had to be a bit "economical with the truth" when persuading people to take the vaccine. And why. But it certainly wasn't easy to find good data during or immediately after the worst of the C19 pandemic.

A 19 story: I had to take a local C-19 test (probably PCR) after clearing quarantine (after travelling to a place that was almost C19 free).

They lost the test (admin issue) so I was told to physically go to the testing location (the main hospital in that city) and collect a copy of the original in person (modern country btw, 5G N/W, modern phones, email, ...).
I got my results (negative) from one of the guys who was operating the testing gear. I'm still laughing over the possibility that I might have infected everyone running the tests (and maybe others in the hospital) by following those stupid instructions

I'm not understanding... are you saying you are not inoculated for anything at all? Or just the COVID-19 virus.

I'm inoculated for just about everything there is lol - and I've had both the Pfizer and Moderna covid vaccinations several times now. In fact, I was one of the first in my hospital to receive it because I was one of the ones on the front line. And here I am.

The mRNA technology isn't "new" per se, it was already in place for development of the COVID-19 vaccine. And the technology worked pretty well for Ebola.

I often use Johns Hopkins as a resource for the public... The Long History of mRNA Vaccines | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

 

[Mary Terry]

Doctors used to recommend people to smoke. Just because you work in medicine doesn't mean you're correct. Look at the disease scurvy where people died. It wasn't some bacteria or virus. It was malnutrition, in this case vitamin C.

Don't you understand that medical knowledge and advice evolve as science evolves? Sadly, there are people in the US who are going back to the ignorance of the stone age for purported medical care. They will be the future recipients of the Darwin Awards.

 

[Masked Man]

Don't you understand that medical knowledge and advice evolve as science evolves? Sadly, there are people in the US who are going back to the ignorance of the stone age for purported medical care. They will be the future recipients of the Darwin Awards.

Exactly.

We used to use physical medium to listen to music (records, 8-tracks, cassettes, CDs). That technology improved and now those mediums are outdated.

We used to cool our dwellings with a block of ice and a fan would blow the air over it.

We used to believe that infants did not feel pain and we performed surgery on them without drugs.

I don't get how people don't understand that. It's applied to literally all other aspects of our lives but when it involves medicine suddenly it's a conspiracy lol

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

There was no pandemic during covid. That was a lie. Viruses doesn't cause disease, it is part of the immune system. They used cases but cases doesn't mean anything. According to the book why zebras don't get ulclers, the book talks about there two groups of people. Two groups of people both have the ulcer causing bacteria but one group doesn't have the disease ulcers. The theory is that the people who had the ulcer disease had weak immune system. The same thing with cancer. Right now you have cancer cells but you immune system fights against it. If you are stressed and eat unhealthy food your chances of cancer increases.
Viruses never been isolated by the way.
Dr Tom Cowan: 'Viruses' NEVER been 'isolated' and does NOT Exists! [06.02.2025]

 

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Thomas Cowan (alternative medicine practitioner) - Wikipedia

"Thomas Samuel Cowan is an American practitioner of alternative medicine, author, conspiracy theorist and former medical doctor. He relinquished his medical license in 2020."

"Cowan has argued against the widely accepted scientific view that pathogens cause a variety of diseases. He promoted conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic, claiming 5G wireless communications are responsible for making people sick."

"The World Health Organization, along with numerous health authorities, established that COVID-19 is not transmitted by any kind of electronic communications and has spread in many regions where new 5G wireless equipment has not been installed."

Conspiracy theory doctor surrenders medical license

 

[tkcartoonist]

Doctors used to recommend people to smoke.

Old Camel cigarette ads are not the equivalent to medical research.

 

[Masked Man]

Old Camel cigarette ads are not the equivalent to medical research.

Exactly and thinking more critically you might question why a doctor in an advertisement would say it's okay to smoke cigarettes... unless someone paid them to say that.

Extrapolate on that... why would there be pushback against public health recommending business closures during a pandemic?

And who then might spread misinformation through astroturfing to sway the public and convince them that it's all a giant hoax?

And who then might lobby government officials with regards to lockdowns and quarantines?

Maybe someone whose profits will be affected and may lose a lot of money for shareholders?

It's money. It's always money.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I started a thread on Covid when it began just after leaving hospital collected my own data on data point per day
province, Ontario two regions for contrast and largest city in Canada, used standard three sigma for failure. Interesting results very eye opening after all data was collected adjusted formula to five sigma boy was that eye opening. I was really impressed with the Ontario premier no sign of data manipulation. My whole career I was know for not fixing or adjusting data Build up my reputation. If you do nor cheat stuff gets fixed. I'm anal about this always have been Stand by my thread some stuff likes who gets covid very obvious. who does not or now with twenty twenty hind sight who needs vaccines also obvious. So politized now The data I collected is dead accurate. I'm just a simple trained quality engineer with integrity.