Kary Mullis inventor of PCR claims PCR test isn't designed to diagnose disease.

[Chonebox]

The book why Zerbras don't get uclers isn't based on Thomas Samuel Cowman. Also there was a germ theory debate.
2020? The germ theory was way before 2020.

Germ theory denialism is as old as germ theory itself, beginning with the rivalry of Pasteur and Béchamp. Pasteur's work in preventing beverage contamination led him to discover that it was due to microorganisms and led him to become the first scientist to prove the validity of the theory and to popularize it in Europe.<a href="Germ theory denialism - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Before him, scientists such as Girolamo Fracastoro (who had the idea that fomites could harbor the seeds of contagion), Agostino Bassi (who discovered that the muscardine disease of silkworms was caused by a fungus that was named Beauveria bassiana), Friedrich Henle (who developed the concepts of contagium vivum and contagium animatum), and others had proposed ideas similar to germ theory.

Germ theory denialism - Wikipedia
This debate seems to have started during 1800's not 2020.
Louis Pasteur - Wikipedia


Consuming alcohol destroys the virus that causes COVID-19.Consuming alcohol will not destroy the virus, and its consumption islikely to increase the health risks if a person becomes infected with thevirus. Alcohol (at a concentration of at least 60% by volume) works as adisinfectant on your skin, but it has no such effect within your systemwhen ingested.Drinking strong alcohol kills the virus in the inhaled air.Consumption of alcohol will not kill the virus in the inhaled air; it will notdisinfect your mouth and throat; and it will not give you any kind of protectionagainst COVID-19.Alcohol (beer, wine, distilled spirits or herbal alcohol) stimulates immunity andresistance to the virus.Alcohol has a deleterious effect on your immune system and will notstimulate immunity and virus resistance

https://www.who.int/docs/librariesp...lcohol-and-covid-19-what-you-need-to-know.pdf

i drank 3 large bottles of acohol during covid with 5 days. In theory I should got sick from covid but I never got sick during covid. I lately got sick a few days because I couldn't breath but that was due to chest congestion not covid.
If alcohol according to WHO weakens a person immune system why wasn't there a ban of alcohol for sale during covid? Wouldn't take make covid worse?

No safe levels for alcohol, you can get diseases like cancer a higher risk for alcohol use according to WHO. Not a smart thing to do. It makes no sense rewarding free alcohol for getting the shot and you risk of getting cancer.

No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

 

[Chonebox]

Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi educated about recall memory for fighting so called bacteria/viruses. He explains about IGG and IGA (these are antibodies). Covid vaccine contains IgG but your immune system has IgG.
Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi - Covid Natural Immunity and Vaccination - Oracle Films

Prof. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi - Profile - Alexander von Humboldt-Foundation

Calling Funeral Homes in Canada: "Were You Busier in 2020 than other years?"

 

[Masked Man]

>If alcohol according to WHO weakens a person immune system why wasn't there a ban of alcohol for sale during covid? Wouldn't take make covid worse?<

Because many medical and alcohol treatment services were shut down as part of quarantine. Alcoholics cannot just stop drinking cold turkey because it could potentially kill them. Although on the surface it seems illogical to continue beer sales during a pandemic, it was kept in place to keep alcoholics from dying.

 

[Chonebox]

>If alcohol according to WHO weakens a person immune system why wasn't there a ban of alcohol for sale during covid? Wouldn't take make covid worse?<

Because many medical and alcohol treatment services were shut down as part of quarantine. Alcoholics cannot just stop drinking cold turkey because it could potentially kill them. Although on the surface it seems illogical to continue beer sales during a pandemic, it was kept in place to keep alcoholics from dying.

I am not an alcoholic. If the theory is correct I should have at least gotten covid. I just can't breath with a mask due to my asthma which I had for several decades. That makes no sense. Liquor stores in my province were still open. People should have been advised NOT to drink alcoho if COVID was so dangerous. There WAS NO WARNING SIGNS not to drink alcohol due to COVID!!!!
I highly doubt every person that received a free beer is an alcoholic. That's ridiculous and you know it.

 

[Masked Man]

I am not an acoholic. If the theory is correct I should have at least gotten covid. I just can't breath with a mask due to my asthma which I had for several decades. That makes no sense. Liquor stores in my province were still open. People should have been advised NOT to drink alcoho if COVID was so dangerous. There WAS NO WARNING SIGNS not to drink alcohol due to COVID!!!!

Dude your posts are getting more and more unhinged. Maybe log off and take a walk outside. That's enough internet for you today.

 

[Chonebox]

Dude your posts are getting more and more unhinged. Maybe log off and take a walk outside. That's enough internet for you today.

Excuse me? Maybe you should think rationally. You make no logical sense. Oh I will do something better. I'm done with this forum. Innocent people have died from the covid vaccine and you insult me like another poster. You lack respect. I'm done with this forum so you don't have to worry. This is the reason I have isolated from society now i will have isolate from even people who are like me. If you don't agree is fine but your weak arguments and insults are not going to make your case stronger. Using caps is to get my point across I don't know how to use bold on this forum. If you have strong arugments you would point your case but you failed to do that. How do you know I'm unhinghed? I use capital letter to get point across. I'm not using my voice nor can you see me. You are making speculation into a fact.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Only thing I noticed at the beginning covid is airborne experts did not want to admit this, viruses are very fragile simple whip with soapy water destroys it alcohol wipe is more for bacteria. So called experts including doctors and nurses did no impress me. Even Dr. fauci bothered me when some one asked him about the virus being ait borne with a stupid childish response like he was too stupid to read an engineering text. why did it take months to realize an autoclave with greatly reduced temperature would destroy the virus. lots of what I thought were bright people dropped the ball. Not impressed with people that just memorize stuff and call it learning.

bottom line my statistics showed vaccines worked, after my final analysis it also showed not every one required a vaccine. Unfortunately showed after the fact politics got in the way. Where were the scientists Max Planck institute in Germany knew what the real story was, even got Nobel Prize for medicine. Liked that some one there looked at my statistics prior to this I came to the same conclusion they did genetic basis for who gets covid. Why was this supressed Pretty obvious when you examine covid cases in Africa To me the truth matters,

 

[tree]

@Chonebox

What was it you wanted to accomplish when
you started this thread? What was your
best hope for it?

 

[velociraptor]

Viruses doesn't cause disease

Say you failed grade three science without saying you failed grade three science.

 

[Mary Terry]

In the US, we still have personal freedom of choice. If we wanted to drink alcohol during the covid pandemic, then we were free to do so. Most people know that alcohol can be bad for health. We do not want a nanny state with a government that controls everything we do, everything we consume, and attempts to control even our access to information and our thought processes.

 

[Hypnalis]

In the US, we still have personal freedom of choice. If we wanted to drink alcohol during the covid pandemic, then we were free to do so. Most people know that alcohol can be bad for health. We do not want a nanny state with a government that controls everything we do, everything we consume, and attempts to control even our access to information and our thought processes.

Nothing unreasonable about this of course. But it's not always the ideal approach.

For example the US has the selective draft, which is a common (many countries have something similar), reasonable, arguably necessary, special case.

A major outbreak of a highly infectious disease is a comparable case. C19 killed older people effectively, younger people tended to survive, and many weren't significantly inconvenienced.
The best way to keep older and more susceptible people alive was for everyone to be vaccinated, including those for whom the risk of death or serious long-lasting effects was relatively low.

Unsurprisingly, where the obvious protective measures were put in place, death rates were lower.

>>>> Something amusing came up when I looked for the "Covid-19 excess mortality" comparative table on wikipedia that I used last time this interested me: it's either gone or hard to find /lol.

IIRC the US didn't compare well with countries that achieved lower excess mortality via a higher rate of people being vaccinated, masking, and socially isolating (due to their following laws, or conforming to expert recommendations).

 

[Mary Terry]

Nothing unreasonable about this of course. But it's not always the ideal approach.

For example the US has the selective draft, which is a common (many countries have something similar), reasonable, arguably necessary, special case.

A major outbreak of a highly infectious disease is a comparable case. C19 killed older people effectively, younger people tended to survive, and many weren't significantly inconvenienced.
The best way to keep older and more susceptible people alive was for everyone to be vaccinated, including those for whom the risk of death or serious long-lasting effects was relatively low.

Unsurprisingly, where the obvious protective measures were put in place, death rates were lower.

>>>> Something amusing came up when I looked for the "Covid-19 excess mortality" comparative table on wikipedia that I used last time this interested me: it's either gone or hard to find /lol.

IIRC the US didn't compare well with countries that achieved lower excess mortality via a higher rate of people being vaccinated, masking, and socially isolating (due to their following laws, or conforming to expert recommendations).

Yep. The USA is a huge country with lengthy borders comprised of 50 states and various territories, all of which have their own unique forms of government, and a national population of approximately 343,000,000. If the US was geographically small like Japan or sparsely populated like, for example, Australia, where borders can be effectively closed, or politically homogeneous, then we probably would have had a better covid outcome. We also were plagued by false information, science denial, science ignorance and ineffective politicians. There will always be some number of people who will reject any kind of scientific guidance. Also, significant numbers of Americans died of covid before the vaccine was developed and made available.

Americans are like cats - it's hard to herd them.

 

[Judge]

Yep. The USA is a huge country with lengthy borders comprised of 50 states and various territories, all of which have their own unique forms of government, and a national population of approximately 343,000,000. If the US was geographically small like Japan or sparsely populated like, for example, Australia, where borders can be effectively closed, or politically homogeneous, then we probably would have had a better covid outcome. We also were plagued by false information, science denial, science ignorance and ineffective politicians. There will always be some number of people who will reject any kind of scientific guidance. Also, significant numbers of Americans died of covid before the vaccine was developed and made available.

Americans are like cats - it's hard to herd them.

I just see most of this equation in terms of capitalism continually driving society at a faster pace than any societal and scientific awareness of public health. That corporate profit will always prevail against common sense in our particular society. Even when human lives are at stake. With massive funds allocated to seek repeat customers more than serious attempts to find a cure.

And that the equation is somewhat different and varied beyond our particular borders.