I think many NTs also struggle with social situations.

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Yes that kind of weak link will compromise the whole effort

We had quite a few wealthy business men try it on too. In NSW and Vic they got exemptions to fly in and out of the country and continue doing business but the rest of the country locked down.

We had a wealthy mining magnate that got upset when he discovered he couldn't return to his home state of WA without going through 3 weeks of quarantine. He was so angry about that that he tried to sue the WA government and the Federal government and he started his own political party as well. Didn't get him very far though.

 

[vergil96]

I never understood that part - toilet paper for a respiratory illness. Maybe some people are built different to me.

Nose running like a leaky faucet

 

[UFO]

like stockpiling toilet paper

I heard that it was because China was a major provider of paper products to some countries (like Australia), rumors about production disruptions created a fear that those countries run out of the toilet paper. When rumors about the panic reached other countries, they joined it even if they weren't major importers of Chinese paper...

 

[Shevek]

Nose running like a leaky faucet

Even facial tissues irritate my nose, which increases sales. I use handkerchiefs and wash them. I have also lived in India, and got used to alternatives to toilet paper.
The panic hoarding of toilet paper probably ran on some of the programming that causes rapid price increases on anything rare or collectible. It's a positive feedback loop running without a sound foundation.

 

[vergil96]

Toilet paper is better than tissues for running nose, because it's soft. (Unless it's the sandpaper type )

 

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Nose running like a leaky faucet

So not as I first suspected.

Sprinklers help rare bum-breathing turtles nest without rainfall

 

[Mary Terry]

I never understood that part - toilet paper for a respiratory illness. Maybe some people are built different to me.

It's actually very simple. There was a nationwide shortage of toilet paper in the US due to disruption of supply chains, TP industry workers unable to work due to being sick and, in the early days, quarantines of exposed people, hundreds of millions of people and their children sheltering at home and using the home bathroom facilities rather than workplaces and school toilets. If you were stuck at home with your five children who normally would be at school all day, then, yeah, you needed a lot of toilet paper. Your customary purchase of 10 rolls per week suddenly wasn't enough TP to last your family for a week. You needed three times or more than that amount. So, yeah, some people hoarded TP.

We see the same stocking up/hoarding behaviors every time a severe weather event is forecast. Food, water, pet food, baby supplies and paper products quickly disappear from stores. Intelligent and informed people who routinely live with extreme weather know how to stay supplied with essential products so we are always prepared. I live in an area of extreme and violent weather in a rural location, and the nearest "decent" store is at least 10 miles away. I try to ensure that I have on hand whatever we'll need for a couple of weeks rather than risk finding empty store shelves in an emergency. It's not hoarding, it's simply being prepared for a very predictable situation.

 

[Judge]

It's actually very simple. There was a nationwide shortage of toilet paper in the US due to disruption of supply chains, TP industry workers unable to work due to being sick and, in the early days, quarantines of exposed people, hundreds of millions of people and their children sheltering at home and using the home bathroom facilities rather than workplaces and school toilets. If you were stuck at home with your five children who normally would be at school all day, then, yeah, you needed a lot of toilet paper. Your customary purchase of 10 rolls per week suddenly wasn't enough TP to last your family for a week. You needed three times or more than that amount. So, yeah, some people hoarded TP.

We see the same stocking up/hoarding behaviors every time a severe weather event is forecast. Food, water, pet food, baby supplies and paper products quickly disappear from stores. Intelligent and informed people who routinely live with extreme weather know how to stay supplied with essential products so we are always prepared. I live in an area of extreme and violent weather in a rural location, and the nearest "decent" store is at least 10 miles away. I try to ensure that I have on hand whatever we'll need for a couple of weeks rather than risk finding empty store shelves in an emergency. It's not hoarding, it's simply being prepared for a very predictable situation.

Yep. Happens every winter here for the same reasons. A simple matter of preparedness that most of the population perceives given consistent weather patterns that can sometimes keep us from traveling even the shortest distances to a grocery or drug store.

 

[Poppy98]

Yep. Happens every winter here for the same reasons. A simple matter of preparedness that most of the population perceives given consistent weather patterns that can sometimes keep us from traveling even the shortest distances to a grocery or drug store.

Plus they didn't communicate well about when we'd be able to leave home again. They made it sound like it would be 6 months and the world would be going straight into anarchy. We were told we could be arrested if we left home but no details on anything else. For people with no tv or internet there was even less communication. If you lived in an apartment building even getting the mail would cause you to interact with other people.


That having been said it was a challenge to find toilet paper.

 

[Judge]

Plus they didn't communicate well about when we'd be able to leave home again. They made it sound like it would be 6 months and the world would be going straight into anarchy. We were told we could be arrested if we left home but no details on anything else. For people with no tv or internet there was even less communication. If you lived in an apartment building even getting the mail would cause you to interact with other people.


That having been said it was a challenge to find toilet paper.

During the pandemic interacting with people was done at a bare minimum. Keeping my distance from all the humanoids as much as was possible. Especially children running loose in stores. Stayed indoors for the most part. Somehow never actually running out of toilet paper.

Luckily I had my books and poetry to protect me....as well as the Internet. I "was a rock"...and still am I suppose. But no, I will never remember those days with any sense of fondness.

 

[Poppy98]

During the pandemic interacting with people was done at a bare minimum. Keeping my distance from all the humanoids as much as was possible. Especially children running loose in stores. Stayed indoors for the most part. Somehow never actually running out of toilet paper.

Luckily I had my books and poetry to protect me....as well as the Internet. I "was a rock"...and still am I suppose. But no, I will never remember those days with any sense of fondness.

I didn't think of this before but also people might have been prepping for if they ended up having to quarantine and couldn't go out shopping even once people found out they could go shopping. Because it would have been potentially risky to do that and infect others.

 

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I heard that it was because China was a major provider of paper products to some countries (like Australia),

Actually the other way around, Australia exports toilet paper to China.

Intelligent and informed people who routinely live with extreme weather know how to stay supplied with essential products so we are always prepared.

Darwin was the same but perhaps a little more extreme. There's only one road in and out of Darwin and if that gets cut for any reason (floods mostly) then the town is isolated for weeks at a time, no freight coming in. The habit I was taught as a child of shopping every week got broken because of this, instead I kept a reasonable amount of stock at home which meant I didn't have to go shopping as often. All the locals did this and only went shopping when things were on special, which also saves a lot of money.

Plus being a man with no children means a roll of toilet paper lasts me 2 weeks. During covid I joked about putting an ad on a dating site - Have toilet paper and willing to share with the right lady.

 

[vergil96]

Actually the other way around, Australia exports toilet paper to China.

Really? I thought that China has such huge and cheap production of basic goods that they don't import them. I would think they might import expensive clothes or iPhones, but not toilet paper. I would think they export literally every basic product.

 

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Really? I thought that China has such huge and cheap production of basic goods that they don't import them. I would think they might import expensive clothes or iPhones, but not toilet paper. I would think they export literally every basic product.

Yes, they're one of the world's largest exporters of toilet paper - the cheap stuff. Their wealthier citizens prefer to use nice soft Aussie paper. It's funny sometimes too seeing Chinese warships dock at Brisbane, not for an official visit but to go on a shopping spree, and what they usually stock up on is Aussie toilet paper and Aussie baby formula. They don't like the cheap chinese stuff.

 

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Really? I thought that China has such huge and cheap production of basic goods that they don't import them. I would think they might import expensive clothes or iPhones, but not toilet paper. I would think they export literally every basic product.

The only real problems with supply that we had during covid was stupidity of our own making coupled with government corruption in the form of allowing bad business practice.

Our groceries industry is dominated by 2 major players. We call it a Duopoly and there's often investigations in to things like claims of price fixing, etc. Both of these large corporations decided to create central freight hubs in New South Wales and manage all of their logistics operations from one centralised location. It might have been a good idea if they had actually located it in the centre of the country instead of on the east coast.

New South Wales was one of the states that kept handing out exemptions for quarantine laws so they were hit with covid really hard and had to have harsh lockdowns that lasted for 2 years. This crippled that centralised freight hub in New South Wales. If it had been based in one of the more responsible states it could have kept running without issue.

This actually worked out better for the other states in the longer term though. Because the Duopoly was much more restricted in what they could supply local suppliers started seeing record sales and local economies in the western states boomed while New South Wales lost money hand over fist.

 

[thejuice]

Even facial tissues irritate my nose, which increases sales. I use handkerchiefs and wash them. I have also lived in India, and got used to alternatives to toilet paper.
The panic hoarding of toilet paper probably ran on some of the programming that causes rapid price increases on anything rare or collectible. It's a positive feedback loop running without a sound foundation.

I remember some outrage at a few shops exploiting the shortage of toilet paper by sharply rising the price. I mean it's a bad look, but if it inhibits hoarding behaviours then maybe expensive bog roll would have been better than empty shelves and having to improvise !

 

[thejuice]

So not as I first suspected.

Sprinklers help rare bum-breathing turtles nest without rainfall

I feel like they drew me in and left me hanging with the bum breathing bit in the title, without any further elaboration ! perhaps for the best..

 

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I feel like they drew me in and left me hanging with the bum breathing bit in the title, without any further elaboration ! perhaps for the best..

They're a recently discovered species, and yes, they breathe through their bums while head down and feeding on aquatic plants.

We had an idiot living in Melbourne back during covid who hoarded and stockpiled toilet paper thinking to make money off of it. The average Aussie was highly offended by this and refused to buy anything from him. At the end of covid he tried to return and get refunds for more than 10,000 rolls of toilet paper but was knocked back.

He tried to take it to court but he got knocked back as a "vexatious litigant" because he couldn't produce receipts for most of his purchases and what receipts he did have had passed their 3 month expiry date for undamaged returns.

 

[thejuice]

Yes, they're one of the world's largest exporters of toilet paper - the cheap stuff. Their wealthier citizens prefer to use nice soft Aussie paper. It's funny sometimes too seeing Chinese warships dock at Brisbane, not for an official visit but to go on a shopping spree, and what they usually stock up on is Aussie toilet paper and Aussie baby formula. They don't like the cheap chinese stuff.

I can't abide super cheap stuff. You just have no confidence in it! Reading good things about Australian brand Quilton Gold 4 ply King Size. Now that's true luxuriance..

Best one here is Cushelle, i thought it might be an Australian brand because it has a Koala as a mascot but turns out it's British. I guess a Koala brings to mind softness. Same with Andrex and their puppies..

 

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I can't abide super cheap stuff. You just have no confidence in it! Reading good things about Australian brand Quilton Gold 4 ply King Size. Now that's true luxuriance..

Best one here is Cushelle, i thought it might be an Australian brand because it has a Koala as a mascot but turns out it's British. I guess a Koala brings to mind softness. Same with Andrex and their puppies..

Funny thing about tariffs, most of the toilet paper used in the US is made in Canada.