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I found an interesting quote, about IQ and its relation (or lack thereof) to support needs

It's interesting but makes me wonder some things. A paraplegic has legs but they don't work. IQ scores indicate the working ability of the brain not the existence of one, so the comparison doesn't quite match up. It's pretty good though and I've seen something similar and liked the idea.

Similarly, when my partner was in hospital and seriously ill, weakened from surgery and still attached to countless tubes and wires, the hospital refused a wheel chair for me to take him outside for fresh air and sunshine. The reason was his legs theoretically work. If you entered the hospital unable to walk then you qualify for a wheel chair. It didn't matter how much the hospital stay had further disabled you. To me that is very strange thinking.
 
Clueless in Canada said:
It's interesting but makes me wonder some things. A paraplegic has legs but they don't work. IQ scores indicate the working ability of the brain not the existence of one, so the comparison doesn't quite match up. It's pretty good though and I've seen something similar and liked the idea.

Similarly, when my partner was in hospital and seriously ill, weakened from surgery and still attached to countless tubes and wires, the hospital refused a wheel chair for me to take him outside for fresh air and sunshine. The reason was his legs theoretically work. If you entered the hospital unable to walk then you qualify for a wheel chair. It didn't matter how much the hospital stay had further disabled you. To me that is very strange thinking.
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That's messed up. Little hint, though - usually in hospitals, if you look around you'll usually find a wheelchair sitting somewhere in a corner or something. :) Just in case you find yourself in that predicament again. Or ask someone nicer.
 
I'll say...I don't qualify for assistance because my IQ is too high...except I can't handle most paperwork, get confused easily if there are too many steps to something, and would forget my own head if it weren't attached! Yeah, I need help...so what if I can read and comprehend a moderately complex story? I've worked hard to be able to do that!
 
Clueless in Canada said:
It's interesting but makes me wonder some things. A paraplegic has legs but they don't work. IQ scores indicate the working ability of the brain not the existence of one, so the comparison doesn't quite match up. It's pretty good though and I've seen something similar and liked the idea.
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Yeah, the analogy may be a little flawed.... but IQ only measures a limited number of things and doesn’t tell you all that much about how the brain is working, only whether an end result can be produced under the testing conditions; similar maybe to how just seeing legs doesn’t tell you how strong they are or how/how well the owner of the legs can move them to walk because there are so many systems at work that you can’t see that enable a person to walk (or don’t).
 
Pats said:
That's messed up. Little hint, though - usually in hospitals, if you look around you'll usually find a wheelchair sitting somewhere in a corner or something. :) Just in case you find yourself in that predicament again. Or ask someone nicer.
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Pats, I scoured the hospital and asked everywhere. I was astonished! I even tried lurking at the entrance to grab an abandoned one.
 
Isn't IQ an indication of potential? If it is, then just because the potential is there doesn't it mean it can always be accessed. Emotional instability, sense sensitivities, anxiety, etc. could prevent the use of any intelligence with just as much absolution as their inability to walk with their legs in plain sight.
 
Fino said:
Isn't IQ an indication of potential? If it is, then just because the potential is there doesn't it mean it can always be accessed. Emotional instability, sense sensitivities, anxiety, etc. could prevent the use of any intelligence with just as much absolution as their inability to walk with their legs in plain sight.
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IQ is definitely a fallible measurement tool. I have no idea what my IQ is and wouldn't want to know. I have working memory problems so I suspect that would impact any tests I take but does that mean I am not intelligent? I also have a university degree. I also struggle to fill out forms and perform step by step tasks and I have days where I function better than others. I think part of the problem is that for those observing and assessing, brain function is so much more difficult to get a handle on than leg function is. Still, there are people with illnesses that can lead their legs to work well one day and not the next.

Overall I like this posted quote. I just tend to pick these things apart trying to work out if there are any weaknesses that can be strengthened.
 
Clueless in Canada said:
IQ is definitely a fallible measurement tool. I have no idea what my IQ is and wouldn't want to know. I have working memory problems so I suspect that would impact any tests I take but does that mean I am not intelligent? I also have a university degree. I also struggle to fill out forms and perform step by step tasks and I have days where I function better than others. I think part of the problem is that for those observing and assessing, brain function is so much more difficult to get a handle on than leg function is. Still, there are people with illnesses that can lead their legs to work well one day and not the next.

Overall I like this posted quote. I just tend to pick these things apart trying to work out if there are any weaknesses that can be strengthened.
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I struggle with those things and still score quite high, so I think you'd do better thank you think!
 
Clueless in Canada said:
Overall I like this posted quote. I just tend to pick these things apart trying to work out if there are any weaknesses that can be strengthened
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That's something I can relate to! :relaxed:


It's like refusing to give someone directions because they have a map (thats been cut up into little pieces and it's written in Mandarin Chinese)? Assuming they're not fluent and really really good at jigsaws....

Idk, lol. If you want to say something it's often better to just say it straight and dispense with the metaphors.
 
I'm going through a similar thing right now. There's a group in my area that is called Supported Employment. Because my IQ is above 70 I can't get help from them. Despite the fact I would like to have some support at work. (Not a job coach, mind you, but someone there who can keep me busy). The government here mentioned changing it here but thus far nothing.
 
I don’t know my IQ and to be honest I rather not know,i did struggle at school but at the same time I been told I’m smart so I really don’t know where I actually stand with my IQ.
 
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