Getting a new PC

[grommet]

I will go against the grain a bit and recommend that you don't try to do anything to the hardware or settings right away. It sounds like your interest is in flying things in a sim and not messing around with computer hardware and software. If that is true, I would recommend that you just turn it on and play. Only if you encounter problems should you change things. Monitoring the temperatures with a program to make sure all is well wouldn't be a bad idea though.

I agree. As I have been learning more I think the PC might already be optimized. I will check the BIOS for the RAM speed out of curiosity. I will also be checking the CPU temperature. If it gets too hot I think I will put in the anti-bend bracket. The problem is I am supposed to do that while the motherboard is laying flat and I think the PC will be too heavy to move. First I will see how it plays, it might be great the way it is.

 

[Judge]

It is okay. I found the right one for the new i9 Ultra, it is a different socket. I never would have known about the problem and to fix if you had not told me so you helped me a lot, thank you.

Interesting though in reading about the thermodynamics of the i9 Ultra, so different from the i9. In theory at least, your cpu shouldn't be dealing with much more power than my i5 12400F (65 to 117 watts). Though even with the i5 knowing about the bending issue on even a 12th gen I still use Thermalright's product.

One thing I noticed was Steve Burke's comment that there seemed to be little or not fan control in the BIOS of that system. Check it out...though in a lot of cases motherboard defaults may work out ok in regulating fans and temperatures at load. With such a powerful cpu, I suppose a liquid cooled AIO is the way to go, though personally they make me nervous. But it would seem it may be your GPU to keep an eye on the most when it comes to higher temperatures.

 

[grommet]

Interesting though in reading about the thermodynamics of the i9 Ultra, so different from the i9. In theory at least, your cpu shouldn't be dealing with much more power than my i5 12400F. Though even with the i5 knowing about the bending issue on even a 12th gen I still use Thermalright's product.

One thing I noticed was Steve Burke's comment that there seemed to be little or not fan control in the BIOS of that system. Check it out...though in a lot of cases motherboard defaults may work out ok in regulating temperatures at load.

I am learning the the new i9 Ultra runs cooler and uses 150 watts less power than the previous i9. It is fun learning about. I do not need the AI abilities of the Ultra and a lot of it seems to be dedicated to that. It still seems that with the 5090 the gaming should be good.

I have never had a fast enough PC to game at the the highest levels. I went from an i5-9500KF / GTX 1660 Super to an i7-12700KF / RTX 3070 Ti and it was wonderful. A new world. Suddenly I had RTX and the loading speeds were wonderful. I really felt the difference. I wonder if this new PC will be like that.

I always regretted when I bought the 3070 Ti that I did not spend the extra money for the 3090, it would have been so nice over the years. But I already was spending all I had and more. It is expensive.

 

[Judge]

I agree. As I have been learning more I think the PC might already be optimized. I will check the BIOS for the RAM speed out of curiosity. I will also be checking the CPU temperature. If it gets too hot I think I will put in the anti-bend bracket. The problem is I am supposed to do that while the motherboard is laying flat and I think the PC will be too heavy to move. First I will see how it plays, it might be great the way it is.

Good point. For a system so big and heavy, you won't be doing a lot of casual internal maintenance checks and changes. Too heavy to be moving around on a whim!

 

[Judge]

I have never had a fast enough PC to game at the the highest levels. I went from an i5-9500KF / GTX 1660 Super to an i7-12700KF / RTX 3070 Ti and it was wonderful. A new world. Suddenly I had RTX and the loading speeds were wonderful. I really felt the difference. I wonder if this new PC will be like that.

With all the excess power on such a system, I'd expect your RTX 5090 to be able to take full advantage of its potential capabilities. Assuming of course MSFS can as well. I can't say I've met many people who were on the absolute high end of possessing such a robust and modern system. Should be fun to explore its capabilities.

I've never, ever been close to being on the top of the pyramid when it came to whatever computer I built. Always somewhere in the middle of a performance curve, never at the very top.

But my ultimate choice of testing out such hardware...would be with a flight simulator. Especially one that has so many topographical options to fly over.

 

[grommet]

Good point. For a system so big and heavy, you won't be doing a lot of casual internal maintenance checks and changes. Too heavy to be moving around on a whim!

I have never heard of a PC this heavy. I did not know they could be. I am still thinking the specification might be a mistake. Unless a car battery is in the case it is hard for me to imagine what is adding that much weight. Also, I have not heard anyone talk about how heavy it is. I am used to PCs you just pick up and put where you want or lay over and work on or clean, pretty easy.

 

[Judge]

I have never heard of a PC this heavy. I did not know they could be. I am still thinking the specification might be a mistake. Unless a car battery is in the case it is hard for me to imagine what is adding that much weight. Also, I have not heard anyone talk about how heavy it is. I am used to PCs you just pick up and put where you want or lay over and work on or clean, pretty easy.

Sounds good if the majority of the weight is relative to its cooling system and chassis as this link claims.

Unveiling the Weight of Alienware Area 51: Everything You Need to Know - SoftHandTech

 

[grommet]

With all the excess power on such a system, I'd expect your RTX 5090 to be able to take full advantage of its potential capabilities. Assuming of course MSFS can as well. I can't say I've met many people who were on the absolute high end of possessing such a robust and modern system. Should be fun to explore its capabilities.

I've never, ever been close to being on the top of the pyramid when it came to whatever computer I built. Always somewhere in the middle of a performance curve, never at the very top.

But my ultimate choice of testing out such hardware...would be with a flight simulator. Especially one that has so many topographical options to fly over.

I have never been near a high end PC either. This is the first time. I was amazed when my friend got his 4090. I kept telling him he had the fastest PC in the world. He said it was pretty good. I said no, according the Steam Hardware Survey, one percent of people had what he did. The 5090 came out but so few people had that I felt it was like the same as zero.

I asked Chat about beautiful open world games that would look especially good with the 5090 and I got Red Dead Redemption 2 on sale for $14.99. I do not want to shoot anyone and be in gunfights but I watched a video and it was incredibly beautiful just riding slowly on a horse for a long time through moonlit nights, days on desert trails and fresh mornings on mountain paths. That is what I like and the 5090 should make it look great. I think higher frame rates make things look more real.

I have a very nice custom titanium wheelchair and it cost less than this coming PC. I need the wheelchair, the PC will be a lot of fun.

When I first told my friend about the game he was only piqued about it then forgot about it. Saw the demo in person and has been getting more and more gear to play. His brother who is a real pilot has been impressed with the game.

My friend has a room he did not use to he can have it just for flying. That is really neat. I have a desk that is in the middle of my home. I always have to see the flying desk set up which is fun to look at but I cannot be away from it. Busy for my eyes to see it all.

I also have the Tobii head tracker. I was learning to use it but stopped because I am waiting for the new PC. I started FS on Xbox and it looked great but was awkward. Now I have a major set up (for me) for playing the game.

The most amazing thing I have seen is this man who built a working cockpit for the game. I think it is astounding.

 

[grommet]

Sounds good if the majority of the weight is relative to its cooling system and chassis as this link claims.

Unveiling the Weight of Alienware Area 51: Everything You Need to Know - SoftHandTech

I just read that article. That helped. It sounded like it was written by AI. AI repeats itself a lot. I think it may be referring to the Area 51 from a few months ago, last year's. Mine is supposed to be 72lbs but maybe the build changed the weight too. That article made me think of something. To put teflon sliders under the PC when I set it down. I will need to move it to clean it. I may not be able to put in the anti-bend bracket because of the weight but if it seems important I will find a way. My current desk is not large enough to put it on, I have to keep the PC on the floor. I have a steel riser more than one inch high it can sit on though now I am realizing the size of the PC, it may not be big enough. I have short carpet but I do not want to set it right on the carpet because I worry about cooling.

 

[Judge]

I just read that article. That helped. It sounded like it was written by AI. AI repeats itself a lot. I think it may be referring to the Area 51 from a few months ago, last year's. Mine is supposed to be 72lbs but maybe the build changed the weight too. That article made me think of something. To put teflon sliders under the PC when I set it down. I will need to move it to clean it. I may not be able to put in the anti-bend bracket because of the weight but if it seems important I will find a way. My current desk is not large enough to put it on, I have to keep the PC on the floor. I have a steel riser more than one inch high it can sit on though now I am realizing the size of the PC, it may not be big enough. I have short carpet but I do not want to set it right on the carpet because I worry about cooling.

If I need to work with removing the cpu cooler's heatsink or even the cpu itself, I always do so with the case turned on its side, with the motherboard parallel to the floor. And never on carpet given the static electricity and dust factors. My computer is always on steel shelving about eight inches above my kitchen floor that I fanatically keep clean as seen below. Off the floor, but also under a thick desktop that suppresses fan noise. But yeah, periodically disconnecting it and carefully pulling it out off the shelf isn't easy. Not particularly big, but it's heavy.

 

[grommet]

If I need to work with removing the cpu cooler's heatsink or even the cpu itself, I always do so with the case turned on its side, with the motherboard parallel to the floor. And never on carpet given the static electricity and dust factors. My computer is always on steel shelving about eight inches above my kitchen floor that I fanatically keep clean as seen below. Off the floor, but also under a thick desktop that suppresses fan noise. But yeah, periodically disconnecting it and carefully pulling it out off the shelf isn't easy. Not particularly big, but it's heavy.

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Thank you for the pictures. It looks very nice. You have more room than I. I am working on it now. The PC is 24 inches long and 9 inches wide. 22 inches high. That is a lot of room. I am moving things around and trying to get ready. I will have to keep it on the floor. I cannot put it anywhere else right now. I have some pieces left from the flying desk I had before it will raise it about an inch above the carpet and I will put Teflon sliders underneath. That is the best I can do for now. It is the weight that makes it so difficult. Otherwise I could move it around and put it anywhere I like. Maybe when I can save some money I will get a different desk so I can put it on top. I cannot do that now.

Here is what I am using, here are photos. I put 70lbs on it and I can still move it because of the Teflon.

 

[Judge]

Thank you for the pictures. It looks very nice. You have more room than I. I am working on it now. The PC is 24 inches long and 9 inches wide. 22 inches high. That is a lot of room. I am moving things around and trying to get ready. I will have to keep it on the floor. I cannot put it anywhere else right now. I have some pieces left from the flying desk I had before it will raise it about an inch above the carpet and I will put Teflon sliders underneath. That is the best I can do for now. It is the weight that makes it so difficult. Otherwise I could move it around and put it anywhere I like. Maybe when I can save some money I will get a different desk so I can put it on top. I cannot do that now.

Some people call it a "dining room". For me it's just my computer workstation.

But then if you asked me what room I eat in, it would be a wooden tray next to my dual recliners.

After all, we geeks have our priorities!

 

[grommet]

Some people call it a "dining room". For me it's just my computer workstation.

But then if you asked me what room I eat in, it would be a wooden tray next to my dual recliners.

After all, we geeks have our priorities!

My favorite way to eat is while gaming. I do not why it is so much better. I just posted some photos of the tray I am using.

 

[grommet]

Here is the tray with a measuring tape so you can see. The PC is 24 inches long. I am worried the feet will not be able to sit on the tray. I will have to see when it gets here. I do not want to set the PC on the carpet but if this does not fit I do not know what else I can do for now.

 

[Judge]

Here is the tray with a measuring tape so you can see. The PC is 24 inches long. I am worried the feet will not be able to sit on the tray. I will have to see when it gets here. I do not want to set the PC on the carpet but if this does not fit I do not know what else I can do for now.

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Still makes for a prudent base off the carpeting if it fits. Whew....24 inches long! It's a beast...

 

[grommet]

Still makes for a prudent base off the carpeting if it fits. Whew....24 inches long! It's a beast...

The tray will not work, I see that now. It is too short, the feet will not touch and the weight of the case would rest on the bottom filter. I have two pieces I am using instead. I put Teflon underneath. They will not let me slide the PC as well I think but I need to have something to set the feet on.

 

[Judge]

You might consider buying cement/masonry blocks from a hardware store....Home Depot/Lowes.

Maybe even composite shelves....anything to raise it above the surface.

 

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Two neoprene cutting boards on the floor under the computer case will do the trick for you. That way it won't be sucking up carpet fluff every time you turn it on. This should work better than simply raising it a few inches.

 

[grommet]

You might consider buying cement/masonry blocks from a hardware store....Home Depot/Lowes.

Maybe even composite shelves....anything to raise it above the surface.

Thank you for helping but I am old now, I do not like things like that in my room any more even if practical. Also, I cannot get to a store like that and I could not carry them home.

 

[grommet]

Two neoprene cutting boards on the floor under the computer case will do the trick for you. That way it won't be sucking up carpet fluff every time you turn it on. This should work better than simply raising it a few inches.

Thank you. I looked on Amazon. I would need a very long one which I do not think is sold but also my money right now is bad. The PC is expensive but I am not buying it. I do not have extra money now for things unless I must buy them. I think I see your idea of covering up the carpet beneath the PC, if that is what you mean. I do have material I could use for that so you might be helping me that way. Tell me if that is what you had in mind.