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Em-feminised

Kayla55

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I suppose for me one of most noticeable things about way being on spectrum presents for me is what others may see as lack of practicality.
Whilst it's necessary to eat, have shelter and protection I'm more than prepared to take risks, live more down to earth and sacrifice bread for my perception of what love is. Upon closer introspection this could be considered a less practical or intelligent female trait but actually really the logic differs, and when bread alone is not enough to sustain spiritual then emotional drives woman, because actually love is energy source that sustains my household work, unconditional love needs affirmation and input to sustain my positivity over longer years to endure through the difficult years of raising children.

Whilst woman are less likely to be protectors or providers, and it's no due disrespect to men, but I still feel a woman's recognised worth is lacking in other fields. Living up to sexist images is what degrades women, being a mother is often treated as stupid and lacking dignity and respectful words for the position. Older woman lack status in society to have their roles and opinions even within nature of what identifies as a woman's job, often gay men are credited with sewing and fashion that leads women into silent depression.

Whilst I always enjoyed us going out in my boyfriend's car, he had Black BMW and was a better driver, it's exciting and being with right man can lead to happiness. Other men wish to put women down, insult our intelligence and then it's need begins to sustain ourselves without negative pac-man worm that eats through sense of self-worth. We are human and so falling in love is possibly inevitable and is happiness attained in forgiveness or letting demons go, reaching sense of fulfilment.
There are many times that I still appear to lack understanding or things I can't answer for, at best of times I may still come across as somewhat disabled or below average intelligence but it's blurry, my memory fails me at best of times and on better days I pick up to be more self assured and competent in my own decision making ability.

Studying Islam has renewed my feelings and although I was never career aggressive to start with choice of partners drive me to educate myself for independence and exacerbated what perhaps wasn't initial demist drive to start with. Which does raise roots of feminism again, no. We are not innocent virgins with feminist attitudes but rather it grows within women who felt disrespected or had lack of a proper provider to start with.
I suppose relying on Allah to provide the right man could work, provided it was Allah and not man's choice cause in practicality he'd choose girl who is sexiest and as most men expect her to adhere to his rules as opposed to a suitor where both parties values were to align.
 
Have you studied the Norse / Vikings in depth? The facts. Not the UK stories told that telephoned down through the centuries. The absolute facts about them.

The men worshipped their women. The men weren't that much more fierce of warriors than the women. Natural strength differences were about all that separated them in battles. The British began using them as the initial forms of privateering, and then they turned on them when the Norse lifestyles and ways led to many British women preferring Norse men and running away with them. That begat the stories of Viking raiders who sack and pillage villages out of rage and then steal / rape the women of the village, as well. Norse men had hygiene practices, worshipped and respected their women, etc. British women were just being logical humans. British men became stupid, spiteful bro dudes with vendettas.

Also, of note, the Norse / Vikings were tantamount in keeping the Byzantine armies at bay (and whittled them down a lot). The Norse attacked that city and established their own presence there to keep things more civilized, if you will. There is mostly proof that it was a personal attack. Some even claim that it was because of the Byzantine / Middle Eastern belief system of how they treated women so poorly with little-to-no respect. As it were so common that Norse women fought with the men in all of their military engagements, this makes a lot more sense why they really did it.
 
Have you studied the Norse / Vikings in depth? The facts. Not the UK stories told that telephoned down through the centuries. The absolute facts about them.

The men worshipped their women. The men weren't that much more fierce of warriors than the women. Natural strength differences were about all that separated them in battles. The British began using them as the initial forms of privateering, and then they turned on them when the Norse lifestyles and ways led to many British women preferring Norse men and running away with them. That begat the stories of Viking raiders who sack and pillage villages out of rage and then steal / rape the women of the village, as well. Norse men had hygiene practices, worshipped and respected their women, etc. British women were just being logical humans. British men became stupid, spiteful bro dudes with vendettas.

Also, of note, the Norse / Vikings were tantamount in keeping the Byzantine armies at bay (and whittled them down a lot). The Norse attacked that city and established their own presence there to keep things more civilized, if you will. There is mostly proof that it was a personal attack. Some even claim that it was because of the Byzantine / Middle Eastern belief system of how they treated women so poorly with little-to-no respect. As it were so common that Norse women fought with the men in all of their military engagements, this makes a lot more sense why they really did it.
The influence of Norse mythology, yes I can see roots of the witches, I had image comparison in mind that image won't load, on one side is embodiment of the feminine divine (she's not a warrior more sort of Athena) and other side portrays sterile virgin Mary, whilst gaining somewhat protection from marriage but loss of self value in another sense.

I'm looking at the influence of the Puritans from Britannica and even questioning the beef eater. UK mixed with Indian, Indonesian and even Arabs just about as much as French. Movies never really depict many historical accuracies or truth about DNA
Just generally sick of self grabbing and at same time condescending ways of British, not following much Greek mythology anymore, for future reference clash of titans should be influenced by Norse mythology and steer clear of Greek/Roman influencers.
(Pity, as Hades was always my favourite character, but no loss plenty of Valhalla)

My delema in those days would be whether I could lift heavy sword over my head, let alone battle axe. Warrior would I be neighn,
 
Kayla, you write very well. And seem rather knowledeable on those same things .
But early on you write of forgoing food ? not sure if you meant figuratively or literally ?
Or both ? But I can say , that forgoing food , proper nourishment can have Poor consequences as you age 🥹 based on personal experience . And having witnessed
and having been the target of personal injustices , Been known to be that battleAxe weilding Fem 🪓in defence of my loved ones . And if the cause felt right , Would happily go down fighting next to The man that, I had a Etho s type of Love with❤️ . In this day and age just perhaps that same battleaxe might oughta be made of Magnesium instead of iron, so that I might weild it properly . ( better weight characteristics ) 😁 ✨
 
Yip, Jaycc, stopped being like dog that pine over unhappiness, refuse to eat. Stupid, but it took me ages to learn self-protection mechanisms.
Interesting point Dagan, is that of cultures that borrowed a bit too much influence from others to call it their own (now we all lend from time to time, I'm referring to all the time)
Japan/Taiwan used to oppress Island tribes and try to shut down Indonesian cultural identifiers for being too colourful, or incorporating gold into many of fabric and jewellery design. So much so as to oppress others who were not phased by Western standards and continued creating own style of art, to this day Indonesian fabric designs and clothes are more colourful and natural looking, their food also not as much Black soya or Kikkoman sauces or teriyaki but rather coconut creams, fruit sambals and mildly creamy curries. The Gothic style of wearing black with white skin is also not existing in nature, as dark hair is not European feature and white skin does not occur on Asian woman. (Of all negative trends for millennia that affect women's beauty standards) These are confused identities.
Interesting is feminists who oppressed other woman to gain liberated lives, such as use wet maids and disgraceful history but today we have finally left dark ages, and many Europeans forgotten about old ways. Forgiven but not forgotten is better enlightenment path, like benefits of pyramids etc. but also acknowledgement to get ones own hands dirty and build like slave driver, or experiment on other slaves babies or other such curses that presumed forgotten, and not recognised in one's karma.
Another point is Pierce brosnans DNA that is found to be from Greenland is possibly side of gene pool with lesser pigment in the skin but hair colour is a mismatch,
Wiccan woman used to believe chew on bark of cinnamon or liquorice to chase old husband away and attract new love.
 
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Well the cinnamon ,will at least calm the upset stomach a lousey husband can bring .
Tried the cinnamon myself , but only for the tummy ache. Always picked husband well
long engagement after dating . Was patient to find a good one . Wiccan ? Happy Spring
in the Western hemisphere .!
Excellent concept : quoted from above.
"Forgiven but not forgotten is better enlightenment path"
 
I suppose for me one of most noticeable things about way being on spectrum presents for me is what others may see as lack of practicality.
Whilst it's necessary to eat, have shelter and protection I'm more than prepared to take risks, live more down to earth and sacrifice bread for my perception of what love is. Upon closer introspection this could be considered a less practical or intelligent female trait but actually really the logic differs, and when bread alone is not enough to sustain spiritual then emotional drives woman, because actually love is energy source that sustains my household work, unconditional love needs affirmation and input to sustain my positivity over longer years to endure through the difficult years of raising children.

Whilst woman are less likely to be protectors or providers, and it's no due disrespect to men, but I still feel a woman's recognised worth is lacking in other fields. Living up to sexist images is what degrades women, being a mother is often treated as stupid and lacking dignity and respectful words for the position. Older woman lack status in society to have their roles and opinions even within nature of what identifies as a woman's job, often gay men are credited with sewing and fashion that leads women into silent depression.

Whilst I always enjoyed us going out in my boyfriend's car, he had Black BMW and was a better driver, it's exciting and being with right man can lead to happiness. Other men wish to put women down, insult our intelligence and then it's need begins to sustain ourselves without negative pac-man worm that eats through sense of self-worth. We are human and so falling in love is possibly inevitable and is happiness attained in forgiveness or letting demons go, reaching sense of fulfilment.
There are many times that I still appear to lack understanding or things I can't answer for, at best of times I may still come across as somewhat disabled or below average intelligence but it's blurry, my memory fails me at best of times and on better days I pick up to be more self assured and competent in my own decision making ability.

Studying Islam has renewed my feelings and although I was never career aggressive to start with choice of partners drive me to educate myself for independence and exacerbated what perhaps wasn't initial demist drive to start with. Which does raise roots of feminism again, no. We are not innocent virgins with feminist attitudes but rather it grows within women who felt disrespected or had lack of a proper provider to start with.
I suppose relying on Allah to provide the right man could work, provided it was Allah and not man's choice cause in practicality he'd choose girl who is sexiest and as most men expect her to adhere to his rules as opposed to a suitor where both parties values were to align.
With respect to femininity and masculinity... both should be appreciated and valued. However, both men and women can exhibit toxic behaviors... sociopathy, psychopathy, narcissism... combined with a general low self-esteem, a little depression, and a victim-like mentality. These behaviors are found in both males and females... and unfortunately, the "good ones" can unfairly be thrown into the pile with the "bad ones"... and all of a sudden "masculinity is toxic" and "feminists are toxic"... blanket statements that are false, but perpetuated within certain social circles.

If either partner feels they have to put the other down in order to feel better about themselves... that's a disaster in the making. I cannot do what my wife does... and she cannot do what I do. My brain functions one way... hers another. At no point can either of us undermine or put down each other... not even to friends and family. If there is an issue... deal with it when it is a little issue... don't let crap build up only to explode later.

Problems arise when men and women are competing against each other... when they really should not. Men and women should complement each other. Each having their natural aptitudes and skill sets that when combined are a formidable team. Personally, it is really tiresome for me to listen to couples fighting over how things are not done to someone's satisfaction... "He/she doesn't do this, that, or the other thing well." Stop the madness of trying to do the same things... stop the competing... stop the complaining. Separate responsibilities... making sure there is a balance of duties... but like a team, each pulling their own weight for the benefit of both. More importantly, stop this wanting to be both a career woman and a mother... pick one and be good at it... because if you try to do both, you're not going to do well at either. The same for the father... you can't put in 40+ hours a week at work, bringing home money for the family... and be there all the time for the kids... it's not a realistic situation. Make your sacrifices, divide and conquer.

Demonizing masculinity has been a horrible social experiment... teaching boys that "who they are" is not socially acceptable, sometimes medicating them into submission, and then trying to brainwash them into a more feminine model has left men with all sorts of mental and physical health issues... not to mention disproportionately high suicide rates. Let little boys be little boys... they are active, noisy, play rough, get injured, do stupid stuff... and they should be. Femininity should be valued... but this idea perpetuated by modern feminists that have brainwashed women that "I can do anything a man can" or "I don't need men" is absolute rubbish. Men build, repair, and maintain everything in a woman's world... and women (in general) are absolutely not signing up to train for those skills and jobs... they aren't interested. We are a team... nothing wrong with separation of responsibilities based upon aptitudes and skill sets. Value that.

As far as some religious, cultural, and political views that try to conform or control men's and women's behaviors and roles, it has been a series of failed experiments from what I can see. Let people be who they are and embrace their aptitudes and skill sets.
 
What does Idiocracy mean?
: a society governed or populated by idiots

So regarding downfall of woke feminism, the criticism means that successfully managed to outwit members of this culture but not really integrate them into undivided culture, or accomodate their needs to integrate a mixed society.

I'm not a woke feminist but I'm not a fool either to say 'im not a feminist' as I believe men are so intelligent.
Actually some men are intellectuals others just better at fixing cars mechanically and through applied learning, however id sarcastically go so far as to say in my next cat life if like to be a well kept woman who never had to worry to work or find it necessary to display signs of neglect or abused woman or resemble equivalent attention seeking signs as seen in jeuvenile teenagers or woke feminists.

So I could attend feminist gatherings for further discussions whilst my maid cleans my house and nannies my kids. This is full idiologgy behind some feminists who liberated the movement with picture perfect presence.
This isn't proclamation against every feminist who's panties were desired by rich man but rather evidence gathered by long-standing notions that warranted belief of a priveledged lifestyle.
 
being a mother is often treated as stupid and lacking dignity and respectful words for the position.

In the West my impression is that it's not men who have lost respect for motherhood.
 
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With respect to femininity and masculinity... both should be appreciated and valued. However, both men and women can exhibit toxic behaviors... sociopathy, psychopathy, narcissism... combined with a general low self-esteem, a little depression, and a victim-like mentality. These behaviors are found in both males and females... and unfortunately, the "good ones" can unfairly be thrown into the pile with the "bad ones"... and all of a sudden "masculinity is toxic" and "feminists are toxic"... blanket statements that are false, but perpetuated within certain social circles.

If either partner feels they have to put the other down in order to feel better about themselves... that's a disaster in the making. I cannot do what my wife does... and she cannot do what I do. My brain functions one way... hers another. At no point can either of us undermine or put down each other... not even to friends and family. If there is an issue... deal with it when it is a little issue... don't let crap build up only to explode later.

Problems arise when men and women are competing against each other... when they really should not. Men and women should complement each other. Each having their natural aptitudes and skill sets that when combined are a formidable team. Personally, it is really tiresome for me to listen to couples fighting over how things are not done to someone's satisfaction... "He/she doesn't do this, that, or the other thing well." Stop the madness of trying to do the same things... stop the competing... stop the complaining. Separate responsibilities... making sure there is a balance of duties... but like a team, each pulling their own weight for the benefit of both. More importantly, stop this wanting to be both a career woman and a mother... pick one and be good at it... because if you try to do both, you're not going to do well at either. The same for the father... you can't put in 40+ hours a week at work, bringing home money for the family... and be there all the time for the kids... it's not a realistic situation. Make your sacrifices, divide and conquer.

Demonizing masculinity has been a horrible social experiment... teaching boys that "who they are" is not socially acceptable, sometimes medicating them into submission, and then trying to brainwash them into a more feminine model has left men with all sorts of mental and physical health issues... not to mention disproportionately high suicide rates. Let little boys be little boys... they are active, noisy, play rough, get injured, do stupid stuff... and they should be. Femininity should be valued... but this idea perpetuated by modern feminists that have brainwashed women that "I can do anything a man can" or "I don't need men" is absolute rubbish. Men build, repair, and maintain everything in a woman's world... and women (in general) are absolutely not signing up to train for those skills and jobs... they aren't interested. We are a team... nothing wrong with separation of responsibilities based upon aptitudes and skill sets. Value that.

As far as some religious, cultural, and political views that try to conform or control men's and women's behaviors and roles, it has been a series of failed experiments from what I can see. Let people be who they are and embrace their aptitudes and skill sets.

Not to mention the waste of money in subsidies trying to achieve gender equity in the study of traditionally male dominated fields eg IT.
Women study law at a ratio of 2:1 to men. It would be pointless for the government to give grants to men to study law. What benefit to society or the economy does a perfect 50/50 split in studying law achieve?
 
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Not to mention the waste of money in subsidies trying to achieve gender equity in traditionally male dominated fields eg IT.
Women study law at a ratio of 2:1 to men. It would be pointless for the government to give grants to men to study law. What benefit to society or the economy does a perfect 50/50 split achieve?
Agree.

Whether you're trying to achieve some quota of gender equality for males in female-dominated professions... or females in male-dominated professions... it is a fools errand. You can't "break down walls" for males to pursue nursing... the same for females into engineering. There are some excellent male nurses... and excellent female engineers... but they are there because of their individual aptitudes and skill sets... not because of some form of DEI program. At some point, skills matter... regardless of hiring practices.

"We need more females in the STEM fields!" I have to ask "Why?" If a female has the aptitudes, skills, and INTEREST... then by all means, pursue it... they'll likely be successful. However, don't try to push it down her throat if she isn't interested in it... nor make her feel like a failure when she doesn't have the aptitudes and skills. Furthermore, don't inhibit the males who do have the aptitudes, skills, and are interested... because you have quotas to meet.

My wife went through that... a father and two brothers... all engineers. Her mother... an accountant. Her entire family with strong math skills... but she had wanted to be a nurse since she was a small child... and didn't have those strong math skills. It was humiliating for her to struggle as an 11th grade high school student in a math course, when her little brother, in 9th grade, sat in the very same class, sleeping in the back of the classroom, getting A's.
 

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