Detail Oriented?

[Judge]

@Aspychata Sadly though the investigative jobs and the medical jobs listed all tend to have extensive education requirements and even the factory/mechanical jobs seem to expect previous work experience within those fields.

I wouldn't be discouraged in that sense. It's just a matter of tapping into those jobs that are plentiful when it comes to a lack of a college education. And perhaps a willingness to extend your vocational education.

It seems in the STEM categories that those working with less than a college degree significantly outnumber those with college degrees. Though I suspect the ones so immersed into scientific research and investigation likely require advanced degrees.

Be realistic about such things. Especially in terms of entry-level jobs of all kinds.

I may have had a college degree going in, but I was still treated as an entry-level employee. Being placed at a lower level of work and having to prove myself before being able to work in a more interesting- and lucrative capacity. That's just the way it is...but again, don't let it discourage you.

Be prepared to have to "pay your dues". Which might involve taking a lesser job than you are capable of, just to "get your foot into the door". All to prove yourself to your employer. Even if one step at time.

 

[FayetheAspie]

Low level is all I intend to ever do. It just seems like most jobs in some fields require a degree for even the entry level.

 

[Aspychata]

Keep applying, never give up. There is a shortage of workers in US. Always say you are a quick learner, detailed and enthusiastic. Fake it until you make it. My daughter said she fibbed a bit to get her job. I had to fib a bit to become bartender, very difficult to break into with no experience.

 

[Judge]

Low level is all I intend to ever do. It just seems like most jobs in some fields require a degree for even the entry level.

I wish I would have saved some of the government statistic sites on STEM jobs. They were quantitatively very specific in percentages of jobs held in various fields that outnumbered college graduates. Though they may also be fields of endeavor you weren't interested in or were unaware of.

But yes if you really were focused on forensic analysis, this wouldn't surprise me. Where the stakes of being correct carry a significant amount of liability, particularly in the public sector. Where the demand for college degrees would- and should be significantly higher.

Time to access the Internet and do a lot of research over these issues. You're bound to find some fields of endeavor that might be a practical "fit" for you more than you realize. And above all, don't be afraid to compromise if it means being hired.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Now That you have, your first certificate, maybe get a second one in quality easy to get I know this was very hot a few years ago. American society for quality check it out.

 

[FayetheAspie]

@Ronald Zeeman I can't afford any more certificates until I get some kind of job.

 

[FayetheAspie]

@Aspychata I appreciate your well wishes, but I don't believe in lying on an application or at an interview.

 

[FayetheAspie]

I discussed some of my other attempts at finding employment (that was not a science career) in my other new thread "Attempts To Obtain A Job".

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Feel for you, I got my first quality certificate while unemployed, but the I had wifefare to carry me through. Even got two job offers as at the time every one was looking for quality engineers. Not sure what the demand is now. Let potential employers know during interviews you would be willing to do education upgrades.

 

[Masked Man]

I would say apply anyway.

Job listings are typically made up of what the employer would consider the "perfect" candidate.

Also, there are some elements that are requirements and some that are "highly desirable." The requirements are things like licenses, certifications, etc., and is pretty much non negotiable. However the rest may be, depending on the job/employer.

The reality is that there is rarely someone who is "perfect" and meets each of those expectations. Like almost every part of the job hiring process, there is going to have to be some wiggle room on both sides.

 

[FayetheAspie]

The other thread discusses this in more detail but I have tried to get other types of jobs as well including small retail shops, a floral shop, greeting card companies, a clothing store, ect.

 

[MildredHubble]

I do try to make sure things are done accurately if it is something important. In fact, I can become overly obsessed in this regard. At the store where I used to work, they quit letting me cull fruits and veggies. I don't think they wanted some of the products pulled that I had pulled. We were supposed to look for bruises and such but I later came to be under the impression that they really only wanted them pulled if they were actually rotting or something. I don't know why we had to watch a video saying pull it if they don't really want it pulled. Apparently, this is another aspect of detail oriented that I do fit.

This pretty much describes my experience exactly. I think we have a tendency to take instructions and rules a lot more literally than NT people do. I've never understood why rules seem to be things that are said but then are ignored or redefined randomly.

Its like "I don't have a strong opinion about the rules but if you wanted the wall to be painted blue, why did you tell me you wanted it painted white??!". Then I usually get "oh everyone knows we don't really mean that!" Or "its not meant to be taken literally."

Also, I think @Rodafina (lovey new avatar by the way Rodafina!) is quite right to say that your skills fit into the "observational" category. This confusingly can lead to being more detail oriented in some situations where your observational skills are at their keenest.

I also will notice sounds that others don't. I will often hear power supplies malfunctioning, taps dripping at the other end of the house, computers left on, problems with HiFi or Stereo systems. My family had been watching a TV where the backlight had begun to fail and had been for a week. I didn't want to mention anything because sometimes people get upset, but when I did, no one would accept the very obvious dark shadow across the screen until my dad was watching a football match

I'm wondering if maybe you would like to work somewhere like a museum? Maybe in a kind of technical role? Maybe doing something like helping arrange displays, make sure everything, like lighting, signage sound systems and of course the exhibits are all in order? There's lots of different museums out there and you'd be surprised how often things behind the scenes are going wrong, the very sorts of things you would notice!

If you were working in a museum that aligned with your interests, it could be a great way to earn a living. Though I'd imagine it would feel mundane after a while some days, it may just feel like the sort of job that you would be happy to go to every day!

 

[Judge]

The other thread discusses this in more detail but I have tried to get other types of jobs as well including small retail shops, a floral shop, greeting card companies, a clothing store, ect.

Best to try to balance with all with the present environment of economic uncertainty. Something far beyond your control for the timed being. Something that is likely to be negatively impacting most prospective employers until this mess gets resolved.

Better to be patient and try not to be discouraged just yet.

 

[Jonn]

I'm not used to being called observant.
I often will be sent out to check the mail or something and when I come back in if someone wants to know about the temperature I can't tell them because I wasn't paying attention. I literally didn't notice if it was cold enough to need a jacket or whatever the question was. I miss things all the time and frequently drift off into elaborate daydreams if bored at all or if excited about something I am hoping will happen

One word:

Spoiler

ADHD...
OK, one acronym.

I, too, tend to daydream.
Maintaining mindfulness is difficult, and I personally attribute this to my hyper-ADHD.

But consider:
Being observant is context-dependent.

Yet somehow, I am usually the first to notice that something has been damaged or is dirty or the first to hear that the power wasn't turned off on some gadget due to the low hum that others don't seem to hear and if someone ask me to examine something, I pick up on minute details that others don't see without a magnifying glass or something.

I rest my case.

Social phobia, as an example, at times creates a situation where someone is hyper-vigilant.
While I no longer have this affliction, a am very observant when it comes to body language.

Also, having been gang-stalked for over 40 years, I am very situationally aware most of the time.

 

[Jonn]

Keep applying, never give up.

Spoiler

 

[RemyZee]

You can also look into volunteer positions until a paid job comes through....it can give you something to put on a resume and a sense of what you are suited to.

 

[FayetheAspie]

You can also look into volunteer positions until a paid job comes through....it can give you something to put on a resume and a sense of what you are suited to.

That takes gas money though and I am not earning an income. My lack of an income is already taking a toll on household finances without using up all that extra gas money for zero income.

 

[RemyZee]

That takes gas money though and I am not earning an income. My lack of an income is already taking a toll on household finances without using up all that extra gas money for zero income.

Online? I was just looking for myself out of curiosity: The Smithsonian takes remote volunteers to do different tasks that sound very interesting; also an organization called Be My Eyes--blind people use their phones and speak to live volunteers, who describe what they are seeing for the low vision person.

Home

Just happened to be looking into this stuff.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

To give you a better idea, are how positions classified in a typical factories here is a control plan for a coil line I worked on I was the lab tech the chemical technician was an hourly employee, less training that you presently have.
You are over thinking the requirements for many positions. this line had 4 chemical technicians one per shift for a 24 hour 7 day per week operation. This is the type of position you should be seeking, very typical Most are filled by high school grads with a bit of chemistry. A lot of factories have similar positions the trick is finding them.

 

[grommet]

I have considered myself to be detail oriented for quite some time and even have it listed on my resume. I frequently notice small things that others have not noticed. I'm often the first to notice the small spider on a corner of the ceiling or one of the screws is missing on something. I also tend to notice changes in patterns. For example, my Dad used to try to slip new shows onto the DVD shelf and I would always notice them because there would be a stripe of some color that differed from the previous pattern. Now; however, I am coming to realize that some people use detail oriented to apparently mean something more like someone who enjoys reading through pages of code or mathematics looking for errors and such. That description does NOT fit. The mere thought makes me feel panicky almost like it would suffocate me or something. Basically, I am trying to figure out whether detail oriented is an accurate description or if I have misunderstood the meaning all this time. If so, what would be a better way to describe this trait of noticing all these visual details?

I do not know. Maybe when NT's say "detail oriented" they are not literal and it means something we cannot understand.

I notice details very much too. People have thought it odd. It is not a choice. When I was on the dock at the marina I knew who tied the mainsheets to the booms on the boats by the way the knots were made.

I can tell who is unlocking a door by the way they use the key. Some put the key in fast, others slower, some put the key in and immediately turn the knob or lock, others always always pause. That used to make me wonder a lot.

The way NT's (you did not say they were NT's but it reminds me of them) use language is always confusing to me because they are not literal and we are. It has become even more strange to me as people are using the word "literal" more and more for emphasis while never meaning its actual meaning.