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Casino games

Shiblom

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Obsession/interests - gambling, card games, games of chance. Was a very adequate card player from early youth to present. My strengths were games that were mostly black n white, straight forward with little drama. I was good at pinochle, hearts, spades, bouree, cribbage & most games that required the ability to count cards. I learned about casino gambling in my late teens after joining the service. No age limit to lose your money. I became very adept at blackjack (21) early on. Over the years read many books learning the counting ropes. I can now count an 8 deck shoe, but don't like it as well as single deck, too stressful. I have been asked to leave one casino in N Nevada, but not banned.

I mentioned about my career (tech) so slots, video poker were taboo to me. I WAS THE WORST POKER PLAYER AT THE TABLE!!! I just figured out during my enlightenment as an Aspy that poker is a skill game for anyone who can read the other players tells. I couldn't. Any game that relies somewhat on the human element has become taboo also. I played a little NFL sportsbook betting, but again 22 other humans controlling the outcome was too much of a risk. I would cringe whenever a novice made a stupid play on 21, upsetting the outcome. But the one game that is my go to outlet is craps. Once those little square plastic die leave the thrower's hand & hits the diamond studded rubber back, you learn quickly where the term 'crap shoot' comes from. No one can really control the game & it hasn't changed much since before my time. They've done many things to change the outcome of most casino games but craps is a purest endeavor. Playing smart money is the only way to beat it. I've learned through much study & can say I've mastered it & the money management as good as anyone.

I haven't been as diligent in my pursuit during the last 7 years as I wanted. Health problems, relocating & trying a different approach to life got in the way. I have returned to it armed with the knowledge now that there was reason for my misgivings. Knowing now that there is a strong possibility that I am an Aspy & embracing it, I decided to approach it from a logical stand point. Give up letting others control the outcome, realizing why I couldn't read other players tells give me a heads up to my strengths & weaknesses. The game of craps is probably one of the most exciting but misunderstood games in the casino. Watching others make high risk bets, knowing that it doesn't affect your play makes it more interesting & enjoyable.

I have been wintering solo in SW AZ these last 2 years, driving home I charted my route through the southern tip to the northern border of Nevada. I will be making 3 stops for a overnite stay & craps play. I would say wish me luck, but if you understand the mechanics of craps you find that luck has nothing to do with winning. Will keep you posted.
 
I won’t say good luck then, how about Have Fun! Enjoy your trip and your play.
I really like Texas Hold’em but I’m really bad at it. Not only can I not read the tells but I’m a little dyslexic! Makes it stressful.
 
Obsession/interests - gambling, card games, games of chance. Was a very adequate card player from early youth to present. My strengths were games that were mostly black n white, straight forward with little drama. I was good at pinochle, hearts, spades, bouree, cribbage & most games that required the ability to count cards. I learned about casino gambling in my late teens after joining the service. No age limit to lose your money. I became very adept at blackjack (21) early on. Over the years read many books learning the counting ropes. I can now count an 8 deck shoe, but don't like it as well as single deck, too stressful. I have been asked to leave one casino in N Nevada, but not banned.

I mentioned about my career (tech) so slots, video poker were taboo to me. I WAS THE WORST POKER PLAYER AT THE TABLE!!! I just figured out during my enlightenment as an Aspy that poker is a skill game for anyone who can read the other players tells. I couldn't. Any game that relies somewhat on the human element has become taboo also. I played a little NFL sportsbook betting, but again 22 other humans controlling the outcome was too much of a risk. I would cringe whenever a novice made a stupid play on 21, upsetting the outcome. But the one game that is my go to outlet is craps. Once those little square plastic die leave the thrower's hand & hits the diamond studded rubber back, you learn quickly where the term 'crap shoot' comes from. No one can really control the game & it hasn't changed much since before my time. They've done many things to change the outcome of most casino games but craps is a purest endeavor. Playing smart money is the only way to beat it. I've learned through much study & can say I've mastered it & the money management as good as anyone.

I haven't been as diligent in my pursuit during the last 7 years as I wanted. Health problems, relocating & trying a different approach to life got in the way. I have returned to it armed with the knowledge now that there was reason for my misgivings. Knowing now that there is a strong possibility that I am an Aspy & embracing it, I decided to approach it from a logical stand point. Give up letting others control the outcome, realizing why I couldn't read other players tells give me a heads up to my strengths & weaknesses. The game of craps is probably one of the most exciting but misunderstood games in the casino. Watching others make high risk bets, knowing that it doesn't affect your play makes it more interesting & enjoyable.

I have been wintering solo in SW AZ these last 2 years, driving home I charted my route through the southern tip to the northern border of Nevada. I will be making 3 stops for a overnite stay & craps play. I would say wish me luck, but if you understand the mechanics of craps you find that luck has nothing to do with winning. Will keep you posted.
One of the best ways to make a small fortune is to go into a casino with a large fortune. Know that you are going to lose in the long run. Enjoy the excitement of gambling, but don't let it get control of your good sense.
 
I've always heard that your best likelihood of winning in a casino is to play 21 at a full table. I have no idea if that is true.

I've never really liked casinos because they are too noisy, lots of creepy people obsessively focused on game tables and video machines, drunks, and the frenetic decorating and carpets are deliberately disorienting. I have won money playing the slots - as much as $600 when I started with $25, the maximum I'm willing to throw away as the price of entertainment in a casino. I guess I'm not a gambler because I leave as soon as I make money off my $25 investment or as soon as its gone.
 
I usually don't respond to replies, but in this case I will. True, you have a better than even chance of winning at 21, if you are playing correctly. The percentage to you is about 4%. Takes time, slow play & if you are altering your bets the house man (the pit boss is in the sky) will monitor your play. If you are even suspected of being a card counter with a 15% advantage then they have the option to 'ban' you, in my case as first offense I was just asked to leave. If you are banned then the other casinos are made aware of you, possibly a pic.

Counting cards is 'NOT' illegal but frowned upon, the house knows. Many counters try disguises to mask their play, also they must be aware of the house watching. Counters are in a world by themselves. They are always on the watch for counters, cheaters, partners (dealers are the most distrusted of all, usually dealers cannot play in their own casino). The house (shift) wants to show a profit during their shift so they trust no one. Counters can hurt the house so the worst thing a counter can do is get found out.

I've read many (25+) books on the subjects (craps & 21) but the ones I reject are the ones showing a pic of the author. Gives the house a visual record. The big money is made or lost on the craps tables. They don't ban you for winning, they do try to rattle you with irritating rules & arbitrary critiques. I was winning at a N Nevada casino the stick man was pushing the die to me as fast as he could, telling me to throw them as soon as I get them. I challenged him with a question, 'Why do you have somewhere to go?' They left me alone. Another winning session I was told to keep the die below the held out stick, quit lofting them. I ignored him & continued to win.

There are rightway & wrongway players, I despise wrongway because the are betting against the thrower, puts bad karma on the table. A lot of good players call the wrong way - slow death. I prefer a loaded table with lots of money numbers coming up 4,5,6,8,9,10's. The dealers, stickmen & bankers all start showing you a little more respect when they see your play. You are no longer a 'sucker' you are playing the way they would, camaraderie.

I don't drink (coffee ok), smoke, ogle the cocktail waitresses or players. I manage my time with bathroom breaks, meals & walks. Keeps me focused. I liken it to a carnival. I'm usually only good for 2 days play. Gets back my perspective & controls my bankroll. I remember once coming home with just over $2,000, my wife was just getting up, I tossed my winnings on the bed telling her that was hers. She proceeded to count it, making the comment, 'It just doesn't seem right.' She's not a gambler at all, comes home with the roll of nickels still in her purse from the room benefits.

I read somewhere back in the early 2000's that there are about 3,500 professional table gamblers in the US - not counting poker players, believe me I have all the respect in the world for poker & never challenge them. I was an adequate tech supporter for 35 years but the feeling that I'm a better gambler than 99% of the people in any given casino I walk in is a very powerful feeling. I can hurt a casino shift's bottom line if I get on a hot table. Which by the way only happens once every few hours on any given day.
 
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Ok, I'm sorry, but I just have to say it - Rain Man got into trouble for counting cards in Vegas. LOL.
 
Ok, I'm sorry, but I just have to say it - Rain Man got into trouble for counting cards in Vegas. LOL.

Funny to think that I used to work insurance with a card counter back in the 80s. Spent most of his weekends in Reno or Tahoe. One who had his share of being "asked to leave".

These days I'd shudder to think of savants whether autistic or not as well as anyone else who could be so easily identified with physical "tells" of card counting coordinated with facial recognition software and all those algorithms used by "the eye in the sky" to map and analyze consistently successful gameplay.

Further interfaced into the Griffin Book's database. The "blacklist" for those patrons of casinos who are unwelcome. The drawing of scrutiny that defines the difference between that potential threshold between being discreetly and politely asked to leave, or being physically thrown out as a trespasser.

I just like those occasional winners who may attract so many losers to help pay our taxes. :cool:
 
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Funny to think that I used to work insurance with a card counter back in the 80s. Spent most of his weekends in Reno or Tahoe. One who had his share of being "asked to leave".

These days I'd shudder to think of savants whether autistic or not as well as anyone else who could be so easily identified with physical "tells" of card counting coordinated with facial recognition software and all those algorithms used by "the eye in the sky" to map and analyze consistently successful gameplay.

Further interfaced into the Griffin Book's database. The "blacklist" for those patrons of casinos who are unwelcome. The drawing of scrutiny that defines the difference between that potential threshold between being discreetly and politely asked to leave, or being physically thrown out as a trespasser.

I just like those occasional winners who may attract so many losers to help pay our taxes. :cool:

It's amazing how sophisticated the anti-cheating technology has become. I'll bet the military uses a lot of the same facial recognition programs as casinos, too. One of my cousins served in Afghanistan and he told me that they (soldiers) routinely scanned the eyes of enemies, insurgents, villagers, and everyone they came in contact with, with military-issued cell phones with some kind of app that captured details of the unique features of the iris of the eye for future identification of those people. Fingerprinting is now old school.
 
If you go to the cashier's with more than a few hundred(?), the cashier will turn away a call to have your photo taken. I try to keep my hat pulled down making it harder the get a good read on me. I know it's futile but it's my form of dissent.
 
If you go to the cashier's with more than a few hundred(?), the cashier will turn away a call to have your photo taken. I try to keep my hat pulled down making it harder the get a good read on me. I know it's futile but it's my form of dissent.

Big Brother shows up in all kinds of ways.

In as much as one can take for granted the relationship between the Griffin Investigations and casinos, you have to wonder how much of all that technology is also interfaced directly with the Internal Revenue Service and other federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. More so now than ever before.
 
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I worked at a casino for about 2.5 years at the keno department. Far from an ideal job for an Aspie but it was a "friend" who got me the job. I still go back to that casino and play keno. Keno is the only game I play since it relies on luck and not human element like reading people's intentions (which as Aspies is a huge challenge). Since I have my own special interest in numbers (related to basketball jersey numbers) I play those numbers hoping to gain some of the money I put in. The house always wins more at the end. I gamble just for fun and fantasizing (Power Ball/etc).
 
I tried a casino in Scotland about 10 years ago. I tried a few games of blackjack, the others at my table didn't seem to like me choosing my own method of playing, like they had their own
 
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I’ve never been that interested in gambling. I’d probably only play the slot machine not for trying to win money but rather because I just like seeing the spinning.
 
I grew up in the country, and a lot of our friends didn't have electricity, and if they did, there still wasn't anything much to do, so the big thing was to sit around a table and play cards.

I will beat your butt at blackjack. I'm kinda good at poker, not the best, but I might win. I love playing war. Uno is such a fun game.

Have you ever played Dutch Blitz? It's a game that is very popular with Amish families. You should look it up. It's vondervul gut fun.

Dominoes is fun, but no one ever taught me all the rules, so I kind of play a "house rules" version of it, based on what I've seen people do in the game. So it may be played right, or I may have made up a new game. I don't know.

Chess is so fun, as is checkers and chinese checkers too.

Yahtzee and Scrabble: I probably will kick your butt. I have made up really fun versions of those two games "solitare style".

I like the idea of the game "Risk", I own it. But I am a sore loser when I see my armies wiped out. It's the one game in the world where I get really mad when I lose. So I don't play it. Oh my blood is boiling just thinking of it! And I'm usually very passive. lol. So it's funny, even for me, to just think about how mad that game makes me.

I do, however love a good game of Battleship. I can play that all day.

And I like kids games like Connect 4, or Sorry.

Do you remember that weird electronic game called "Simon", where there are 4 colors that light up in an ever extending pattern? I think it's because I'm an aspie, but I'm really good at that. I get into a very serious zone where the whole world goes away, and I'm just patting out longer and longer patterns. I haven't played that in a long time, but I used to love it.

Oh man I think I need to have a card game/board game day soon.
 

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