Autism focused suicide help

[DonRojo]

I am going to risk it. But bear with me.
I opened this thread on the first place that somebody with this problem might look. Most other sensitive threads seem to be in the private section. But it takes more time to get there. And sometimes somebody needs a bit of an extra incent.

I would even go so far as making it a stick. Uncomfortable for others maybe. BUT, by focusing it in 1!!! thread, everybody else know. I won't go in there if I don't want to deal with this.

And even though the first post might be about my questions. I tried to make the title as general as possible to suggests, anybody is welcome.

The reason I make this forum suffer, is basically because, YES, there is a lot of help out there. But that help has usually no idea about the unique position of an autistic person, let alone an asperger.

But at the same time. In that particular case. I bet the right people are exactly here!

In my next post I will explain my questions.

 

[DonRojo]

My question is, does anybody know where in the whole world, but through internet....somebody who is asperger might get the help he needs. I am asking this because my local help has no clue anymore. And since I am here through internet, I am supposed to go anywhere else with the use of internet.

In my case the phone is not an option, because it has been closed down when I couldn't pay for it anymore.
And I did find a lot of support (especially like the christians, who don't try to understand, but just hold your hand at least), but they all still suffer from not really understanding me.

This especially worse since I was an almost impossible to discover Asperger. So you can assume, I am very hard to read from the outside. I mean I must have hidden my autistic tendencies like a master . And once learned how, you automatically tend to repeat that .

I am basically looking for a link.
I am not in an immediate crisis, because I am not stupid. If that was the case....there are a lot of others that actually know what to do right in that moment. However immediate past and I seem now still stuck with people that...don't really understand the problem.

So, links, suggestions, and advice where to find help (the right one for people like me), would be greatly appreciated. And once posted...the next desperate victim might read them as well!

 

[Harrison]

We have a whole sub section here Help and Support | AspiesCentral.com

 

[DonRojo]

We have a whole sub section here Help and Support | AspiesCentral.com

Gosh that is perfect. But I would still make it a sticky. Because people in crisis tend to not think 100% clearly. Or make this result jump up first in the search box if you type "suicide".

 

[Harrison]

I shall look into it. It is kind of sticky in that it is a sub thread but I get your point.

 

[gonzerd]

We have a second thread too listing suicide hotlines and such (including some online chat options):
Suicide and Crisis Prevention Resources: Call for Submissions

It's currently in the private Serious Discussion section but maybe it should be merged with this sticky thread in the help section ( wyverary :it's your brainchild so I'll leave it up to you to decide if you want to take it out of the private section and into the public sphere):
Suicide Self Harm Help Hotlines Resources

My question is, does anybody know where in the whole world, but through internet....somebody who is asperger might get the help he needs. I am asking this because my local help has no clue anymore. And since I am here through internet, I am supposed to go anywhere else with the use of internet.

In my case the phone is not an option, because it has been closed down when I couldn't pay for it anymore.
And I did find a lot of support (especially like the christians, who don't try to understand, but just hold your hand at least), but they all still suffer from not really understanding me.

This especially worse since I was an almost impossible to discover Asperger. So you can assume, I am very hard to read from the outside. I mean I must have hidden my autistic tendencies like a master . And once learned how, you automatically tend to repeat that .

I am basically looking for a link.
I am not in an immediate crisis, because I am not stupid. If that was the case....there are a lot of others that actually know what to do right in that moment. However immediate past and I seem now still stuck with people that...don't really understand the problem.

So, links, suggestions, and advice where to find help (the right one for people like me), would be greatly appreciated. And once posted...the next desperate victim might read them as well!

You are definitely not alone with this. It's been a long time ago for me, but one thing I found is that a lot of the help services, even though well trained and well meaning, I'm sure, still expect the person they are helping is acting and thinking like a person who's not having these problems. I'd say act normal, but that's not the right way to put it, because in my view, the way a person with severe problems acts, like when being suicidal, is normal, for a person who is going through such issues. In short, they sometimes fail to take into account the mindset, the situation a person with suicidal problems for instance is in, and the decreased capabilities that come with that. And this can sometimes exacerbate the feeling of not being heard and understood, of feeling disconnected. A bit like opening a wheelchair store on the third floor of a building with no elevator. And that's not even taking into account the extra set of issues that a thing like ASD can bring, in terms of misunderstood body language for example.

That being said, to anyone who is feeling suicidal, please, do reach out. Don't get stuck in it. Don't give up. Contact these services, talk to people. Come here and interact, or just read. It's not the aim or purpose of this site, and we're not trained to deal with such things, but sometimes all it takes is a little sense of recognition, of feeling that there are people who might understand to take you out of that way of thinking, to take your mind of the sense of frustration and loneliness which often seems to be at the root of problems like feeling suicidal.

It might sound stupid or simplistic, but for me, sometimes just finding the right movie to watch, book to read or music to listen to can give me the strength to take life on again, to change that perspective, to shift that focus from all that's bad to what's actually good. I grew up with a lot of depression and suicidal talk around me, and one of my comorbids is melancholic depression, but the last 5 years or so I've seen a big shift in the way it affects me. Like some really difficult level in a game, once you've gone through it a few times, once you've managed to beat it a few times, the earlier accomplishment can give you the confidence that it is something you can manage to get through. It does get better. So never give up.

 

[DonRojo]

We have a second thread too listing suicide hotlines and such (including some online chat options):
Suicide and Crisis Prevention Resources: Call for Submissions

It's currently in the private Serious Discussion section but maybe it should be merged with this sticky thread in the help section ( wyverary :it's your brainchild so I'll leave it up to you to decide if you want to take it out of the private section and into the public sphere):
Suicide Self Harm Help Hotlines Resources




You are definitely not alone with this. It's been a long time ago for me, but one thing I found is that a lot of the help services, even though well trained and well meaning, I'm sure, still expect the person they are helping is acting and thinking like a person who's not having these problems. I'd say act normal, but that's not the right way to put it, because in my view, the way a person with severe problems acts, like when being suicidal, is normal, for a person who is going through such issues. In short, they sometimes fail to take into account the mindset, the situation a person with suicidal problems for instance is in, and the decreased capabilities that come with that. And this can sometimes exacerbate the feeling of not being heard and understood, of feeling disconnected. A bit like opening a wheelchair store on the third floor of a building with no elevator. And that's not even taking into account the extra set of issues that a thing like ASD can bring, in terms of misunderstood body language for example.

That being said, to anyone who is feeling suicidal, please, do reach out. Don't get stuck in it. Don't give up. Contact these services, talk to people. Come here and interact, or just read. It's not the aim or purpose of this site, and we're not trained to deal with such things, but sometimes all it takes is a little sense of recognition, of feeling that there are people who might understand to take you out of that way of thinking, to take your mind of the sense of frustration and loneliness which often seems to be at the root of problems like feeling suicidal.

It might sound stupid or simplistic, but for me, sometimes just finding the right movie to watch, book to read or music to listen to can give me the strength to take life on again, to change that perspective, to shift that focus from all that's bad to what's actually good. I grew up with a lot of depression and suicidal talk around me, and one of my comorbids is melancholic depression, but the last 5 years or so I've seen a big shift in the way it affects me. Like some really difficult level in a game, once you've gone through it a few times, once you've managed to beat it a few times, the earlier accomplishment can give you the confidence that it is something you can manage to get through. It does get better. So never give up.

I would like to give an extra agree for very paragraph. And one extra huge super agree to the whole post!
Oh and some extra optimistic as well! You are right, I found they really do care. Most people do actually, but they don't have the skills, time or abilities to provide the help they clearly seem to want to give! And that goes also far all the other people whom I have stood by there side. When I am in panic, I feel very alone. But truthfully I aware that we actually are not.

Keep an hold to that thought, and find somebody that has any of those three. Preferable all three.

PS. I will try it with copy paste and hope my account restrictions won't block me. If I had the option I would have become a member right away.