Aspergers vs autism vs pdd-nos

[unsurewhattoname]

You can have communication impairments, it just isn't required. Also, keep in mind that many doctors don't follow the DSM precisely.

This is ICD 10, I'm not American.

 

[OrSomething]

This is ICD 10, I'm not American.

I realize you did say that earlier in the thread, I apologize for not reading more closely. I don't know very much about the ICD so can't help you out there.

 

[clg114]

By saying that high functioning symptoms are slight, what do you mean? Do you mean they have few symptoms or that they have many symptoms but all very mild? do you mean they are slight compared to aspergers?

By slight, I meant that a HFA person can have any or all of the symptoms that anyone with classic autism has. The symptoms are just very mild. I think that it is probable that there are a lot of people out there with HFA and do not know it.

The point of the post was that HFA and Asperger's Syndrome are NOT the same thing. Again, this really does not matter since this is according to the DSM-4 and it has been replaced by the DSM-5 in the USA. I was diagnosed with the DSM-4, so that is the criteria that I researched the most.

 

[unsurewhattoname]

By slight, I meant that a HFA person can have any or all of the symptoms that anyone with classic autism has. The symptoms are just very mild. I think that it is probable that there are a lot of people out there with HFA and do not know it.

The point of the post was that HFA and Asperger's Syndrome are NOT the same thing. Again, this really does not matter since this is according to the DSM-4 and it has been replaced by the DSM-5 in the USA. I was diagnosed with the DSM-4, so that is the criteria that I researched the most.

So what are the differences?

 

[RidingDutchman]

So what are the differences?

The main difference is that HFA generally has a delay in speech in the young years.
From what my psych also told me. In people with HFA it is usually more obvious to the outside world, though this doesn't mean they necessarily function worse than aspies. It's the downside of a spectrum disorder, it's a grey area inside a grey area

 

[unsurewhattoname]

The main difference is that HFA generally has a delay in speech in the young years.
From what my psych also told me. In people with HFA it is usually more obvious to the outside world, though this doesn't mean they necessarily function worse than aspies. It's the downside of a spectrum disorder, it's a grey area inside a grey area

So the only difference is speech delay? Why are there different diagnoses on that, and not anything else?

 

[RidingDutchman]

So the only difference is speech delay? Why are there different diagnoses on that, and not anything else?

This is basically why the DSM-V turned it all into a single spectrum. The diagnosis usually was mostly determined by who diagnosed you. So they decided to make it into one spectrum diagnosis, to keep it from getting overly complicated (or at least that is how I understand it)

 

[unsurewhattoname]

This is basically why the DSM-V turned it all into a single spectrum. The diagnosis usually was mostly determined by who diagnosed you. So they decided to make it into one spectrum diagnosis, to keep it from getting overly complicated (or at least that is how I understand it)

Only in America. They're still separate here.

 

[clg114]

So what are the differences?

This is what I said in my first post. HFA is classic autism. The difference between classic autism and Asperger's Syndrome is that in Asperger's there is no impairment in the cognitive or linguistic abilities. They are both autism and can have some or all of the rest symptoms. Because people with HFA and Asperger's are usually both high functioning, some people think that they are the same thing. This is according the DSM-4 and is invalid if you were diagnosed after the spring of 2013 or are not in the US.

 

[unsurewhattoname]

This is what I said in my first post. HFA is classic autism. The difference between classic autism and Asperger's Syndrome is that in Asperger's there is no impairment in the cognitive or linguistic abilities. They are both autism and can have some or all of the rest symptoms. Because people with HFA and Asperger's are usually both high functioning, some people think that they are the same thing. This is according the DSM-4 and is invalid if you were diagnosed after the spring of 2013 or are not in the US.

Do HFA people have impairment in cognitive and linguistic abilities then? If they do, what are some examples?

 

[clg114]

Do HFA people have impairment in cognitive and linguistic abilities then? If they do, what are some examples?

Maybe, but you have to keep in mind that we are all different. For example someone with HFA could have a slightly lower IQ or a slightly limited vocabulary, but since they are high functioning, the symptoms would be mild. The point that I was trying to make is that these symptoms would disqualify someone from a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome.

 

[unsurewhattoname]

Maybe, but you have to keep in mind that we are all different. For example someone with HFA could have a slightly lower IQ or a slightly limited vocabulary, but since they are high functioning, the symptoms would be mild. The point that I was trying to make is that these symptoms would disqualify someone from a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome.

You need a large vocabulary for Asperger's?

 

[clg114]

You need a large vocabulary for Asperger's?

No, the DSM-4 says that a person must be at least average in the cognitive and linguistic areas. Anything less would disqualify that person from a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome. However it is not unusual for a person with AS to excel in these areas.

 

[unsurewhattoname]

No, the DSM-4 says that a person must be at least average in the cognitive and linguistic areas. Anything less would disqualify that person from a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome. However it is not unusual for a person with AS to excel in these areas.

Is it usual for Asperger's people to have trouble articulating themselves?