Alcohol and Me

[Boogs]

in 1933 when prohibition was repealed

That finest type of law so guaranteed to create a black market, and then fill it with organised crime syndicates!
And then they and the law can kill each other for it! Ah! Civilisation, gotta love it!

Corn syrup comes in various types. There's some evidence forming that fructose corn syrup is not especially good for you. Sucrose syrup is not the same thing at all, and there seems to be growing evidence that modest amounts of sucrose sugar are no worse maybe even less unhealthy than the ultra processed products like corn syrup. Of course some people more sensitive than others as with most things.

 

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That finest type of law so guaranteed to create a black market, and then fill it with organised crime syndicates!
And then they and the law can kill each other for it! Ah! Civilisation, gotta love it!

We did exactly the same thing here and achieved exactly the same results.

Squizzy Taylor - Wikipedia

 

[Metalhead]

Alcohol makes me a whiny and morose person.

While Mary Jane makes me happy.

Put down the bottle. Pick up the bong. Alcohol killed billions of people throughout history. Mary Jane killed a hell of a lot less.

 

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Alcohol makes me a whiny and morose person.
While Mary Jane makes me happy.

Knowing yourself and being true to yourself is a difficult lesson to learn, many never learn. What works for others may not work for you, you have to follow your own path.

 

[Boogs]

...and appreciate it changes too!

I've come to conclusion self knowledge is one of the more useful things to learn in life, since without it, it's our nature to find anything we can that isn't ourselves to blame, so we can carry on making the same mistakes.
If only that was all that was needed, life could be far more blissful?

Still, trying to control our environment instead seems the most useless way to move forward - accept the chaos of life and learn to navigate toward the clearest waters? Self knowledge clears the vision and provides the map to find the way through the labyrinth of our mind.

 

[thejuice]

I've come to conclusion self knowledge is one of the more useful things to learn in life, since without it, it's our nature to find anything we can that isn't ourselves to blame, so we can carry on making the same mistakes.
If only that was all that was needed, life could be far more blissful?

Still, trying to control our environment instead seems the most useless way to move forward - accept the chaos of life and learn to navigate toward the clearest waters? Self knowledge clears the vision and provides the map to find the way through the labyrinth of our mind.

Yes and blaming others guarantees a life of useless, woeful misery. Even if you are correct, it's everyone else's fault, so what? You wouldn't even accept an apology in all likelihood.

 

[Forest Cat]

I have never been a big drinker, because it makes me so sick the next day. I know many people who do not get sick, they can get sloshed and party all night and function as a normal human being the next day. I'm not able to do that, the next day I'm almost dead. Both mentally and physically. I think some people just get violently ill. A strong reaction to the alcohol. Shaking, barfing, mentally broken, oh the horror.

 

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I know many people who do not get sick, they can get sloshed and party all night and function as a normal human being the next day.

That's me normally, get up the next morning, cup of coffee and smoke a bit of weed, then off to work I go.

Old age means I can't drink anywhere near the quantities that I used to but I still don't get hangovers, never did. What I do find these days is it disturbs my sleep, and to me disturbed sleep is unacceptable so I'll drink during the day if I feel like it but never in the evenings.

 

[Forest Cat]

That's me normally, get up the next morning, cup of coffee and smoke a bit of weed, then off to work I go.

That's just annoying. You should be ashamed of yourself Think of us poor souls who are almost dying the day after drinking. I have had hangovers that made me wish for a quick death.

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That's just annoying. You should be ashamed of yourself Think of us poor souls who are almost dying the day after drinking. I have had hangovers that made me wish for a quick death.

It also tied in to our work ethic, Printing was the second worst trade in Australia for drug and alcohol abuse.

You go out with the boys, you get up with the boys.

Anything self inflicted was not considered a good excuse for poor work performance.

 

[Boogs]

Actually, I never used to get hangovers either back in my youthful drinking days, but I put that down to the fact it feels like I'm having a hangover while I'm drinking.
This more than anything persuaded me that having an awful time feeling sick as a dog and wanting nothing more than a bed to crawl into, may not be the intended "good time" everyone else seemed to be having.
I wonder if I was doing it wrong?

 

[thejuice]

I thank my lucky stars i felt like warmed up death in the mornings after drinking. It made me chug as much water before bed and it eventually made me quit.

 

[Boogs]

The funniest thing for me was I usually felt fairly fresh and ok in the morning, got all the toxic reactions over with the previous evening! I assume I processed everything very quickly and my metabolism wouldn't wait for morning to get it's revenge.
But the effect of alcohol was never very attractive, that loss of control is horrible, and that's what really prevented me becoming an alcoholic, thankfully. I dread to think of what I'd have done to myself if I actually enjoyed and sought out being drunk. I always thought self-medicating with solvent abuse was not the finest moment of humankind!

Interesting that the safer recreational drugs tend to be illegal? And yet in England alone (not even the whole UK) it's reckoned the cost of alcohol abuse/mis-use is over £17 billion annually (2024 figures, Institute of Alcohol Studies:
£27.4 billion cost of alcohol harm in England every year - Institute of Alcohol Studies ).

"£4.91 billion cost to the NHS and healthcare in England - such as hospital admissions and ambulance call-outs. £14.58 billion cost to the criminal justice system, police, and wider crime and disorder. £5.06 billion cost to the wider economy due to lost productivity"

Obviously the fall-out goes beyond these figures but becomes harder to quantify in an accurate manner.
According to gov.uk we earned about £7.5 billion in duty in return for all that pain and expense, to provide an ever more powerful drinks industry with the huge profits required to effectively lobby against any further controls, or compensation for the damage it causes in return for those profits.

It's enough to drive one to drink!

 

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"£4.91 billion cost to the NHS and healthcare in England - such as hospital admissions and ambulance call-outs. £14.58 billion cost to the criminal justice system, police, and wider crime and disorder. £5.06 billion cost to the wider economy due to lost productivity"

Australia's got a similar problem, especially so in the more remote regions, but we've also seen first hand what happens when you ban alcohol. At least these days our judiciary are paying a little less heed to less culpability due to temporary diminished mental capacity. "It's not my fault your honour, I was pissed." doesn't cut it any more.