AI and Music

[RemyZee]

I found this singer and was going through the playlist when the realization came that lo and behold it is AI, just like everything is AI nowdays. What do you think about this? Does it sound real? Do you Like it? Apparently she is the latest singing sensation, but it's almost like....too good. Real things aren't so weirdly absent of any mistakes. What are the implications that anyone anywhere can basically be artistically brilliant without having to know anything about the art itself or have to work for it. If you can create a great prompt then you can create great work. Are human beings going to turn into this incredibly lazy species--there will be no reason to innovate, no reason to create or need for genius, no need for novelty so we wind up evolving past the urge to create. What happens when what AI sings, writes, paints or invents winds up being far better what people can ever make?

 

[TBRS1]

I run into a similar problem.

I really like orchestral music, and there's a lot available on a particular platform.

But I can't tell, for sure, without doing a search, if it's real people or not - playing OR composing.

Music, to me, is a form of communication. Finding out that the "communication" is void of intent and created by formula leaves me with a really, really creepy "uncanny valley" vibe.

Makes OK background sound, though.

P.S. things should have a "Certified Human" label mandated by all governments.

 

[Misery]

Are human beings going to turn into this incredibly lazy species--there will be no reason to innovate, no reason to create or need for genius, no need for novelty so we wind up evolving past the urge to create.

The way I look at this is a bit different.

If someone looks at something like AI and says, "all I need to do is type a prompt" and then they STOP RIGHT THERE, that's entirely on them.

It's baffled me this entire time, absolutely baffled me: The idea that the use of AI in a project/creation/whatever has to be step one of one. Why is it not step one of fifty? Why in the world would anyone JUST use a prompt? Isnt that freaking boring to make? Where's the challenge?

I've only made a couple of AI creations myself, and they didnt work like that. The best one, the biggest one, hangs on the wall on the house here, and was made as a father's day gift.

It involved not one, but THREE AIs, multiple other apps, 8 hours of work, and I just about went mad trying to do it. I also had to learn new Photoshop functions, among other things. And the thing that usually surprises people once they hear about how it was made is that it is also a photo. A real photo. Easy enough to prove, the thing it's a picture of is right across the street. I dont hide how the project was done, either, and if someone asks, I'll talk their ear off about it. After all that work, I think I earned it.

AI is not making people lazy. People STARTED OFF lazy. The ease of use of AI (at a low level, anyway) gives them an OUTLET for that laziness. That's why you get so many who see AI as a get rich quick scheme (spoiler: no). It's also why so many people walked into the NFT funhouse, easy marks that they are.

It's also why you get so many AI creations that have bizarre errors in them. Those are not necessary or inevitable. You wouldnt find anything like that in anything I make, as I dont allow that.

But people want to DO without the LEARN part. They want to DO without the EFFORT part. They want immediate Tiktok-speed results because holy pudding they NEED those freaking likes on Facefart or whatever.

Even with something like music. Give me an AI made song and I'll turn it into something more. I've got the tools and the knowledge. Dancing, pulsing fractal flames, like a beating heart along with the music. That's not hard, not for me anyway, because I took the time to learn to not just use the AI properly, but to learn many other tools, and have the creativity and effort to put it all together.

Granted, some parts of the process can be spectacularly irritating, but still. That's no excuse to just be like, hit the magic button, take the first result, call it done.

Just... uuuuuuuuuuugh. Sorry, I dont mean to ramble so much, but this is one of those subjects that absolutely grinds my gears. People blaming the AI for their own blasted faults. That seems to be a running theme with humanity, doesnt it?

Same goes for the people who dont actually use AI themselves, but assume absolute laziness and a lack of skill on the part of others who even briefly mention that they've ever interacted with Midjourney or something. "Pick up a pencil" my left foot.

If the lazy ones who just prompt with a single bloody sentence and then call themselves the next DaVinci didnt have AI, they'd be the same people that do things like make braindead reaction content on Youtube or Tiktok. DO without the EFFORT. The AI never created that in them.


There, I'm done ranting, I think I got that out of my system.

 

[TBRS1]

The way I look at this is a bit different.

If someone looks at something like AI and says, "all I need to do is type a prompt" and then they STOP RIGHT THERE, that's entirely on them.

It's baffled me this entire time, absolutely baffled me: The idea that the use of AI in a project/creation/whatever has to be step one of one. Why is it not step one of fifty? Why in the world would anyone JUST use a prompt? Isnt that freaking boring to make? Where's the challenge?

I've only made a couple of AI creations myself, and they didnt work like that. The best one, the biggest one, hangs on the wall on the house here, and was made as a father's day gift.

It involved not one, but THREE AIs, multiple other apps, 8 hours of work, and I just about went mad trying to do it. I also had to learn new Photoshop functions, among other things. And the thing that usually surprises people once they hear about how it was made is that it is also a photo. A real photo. Easy enough to prove, the thing it's a picture of is right across the street. I dont hide how the project was done, either, and if someone asks, I'll talk their ear off about it. After all that work, I think I earned it.

AI is not making people lazy. People STARTED OFF lazy. The ease of use of AI (at a low level, anyway) gives them an OUTLET for that laziness. That's why you get so many who see AI as a get rich quick scheme (spoiler: no). It's also why so many people walked into the NFT funhouse, easy marks that they are.

It's also why you get so many AI creations that have bizarre errors in them. Those are not necessary or inevitable. You wouldnt find anything like that in anything I make, as I dont allow that.

But people want to DO without the LEARN part. They want to DO without the EFFORT part. They want immediate Tiktok-speed results because holy pudding they NEED those freaking likes on Facefart or whatever.

Even with something like music. Give me an AI made song and I'll turn it into something more. I've got the tools and the knowledge. Dancing, pulsing fractal flames, like a beating heart along with the music. That's not hard, not for me anyway, because I took the time to learn to not just use the AI properly, but to learn many other tools, and have the creativity and effort to put it all together.

Granted, some parts of the process can be spectacularly irritating, but still. That's no excuse to just be like, hit the magic button, take the first result, call it done.

Just... uuuuuuuuuuugh. Sorry, I dont mean to ramble so much, but this is one of those subjects that absolutely grinds my gears. People blaming the AI for their own blasted faults. That seems to be a running theme with humanity, doesnt it?

Same goes for the people who dont actually use AI themselves, but assume absolute laziness and a lack of skill on the part of others who even briefly mention that they've ever interacted with Midjourney or something. "Pick up a pencil" my left foot.

If the lazy ones who just prompt with a single bloody sentence and then call themselves the next DaVinci didnt have AI, they'd be the same people that do things like make braindead reaction content on Youtube or Tiktok. DO without the EFFORT. The AI never created that in them.


There, I'm done ranting, I think I got that out of my system.

I have no problem with understanding the difficulty in making a computer sound like a harp.

I'm sure it's tough.

However, when I listen to harp music, I like it to be played by a harper, on a harp. Much of my appreciation of the music is the skill the musician developed which allows them get that sound from that instrument.

I never try to make my harp sound like a computer. If I wanted that, I'd learn to play a computer.

Techno is cool. Computer music that sounds like computer music. Very fun.