Getting a diagnosis - part two

King_Oni · Sep 25, 2011

I read your intial post on this, and was kinda curious, as I should still contact a therapist who is specialized.

I always laugh about the entire "NOS" part. It's a label that can be put on any disorder if they're not entirely sure what the "problem" is.

I also wonder a bit on what their take is on "too social" or "too empathic"... afterall, you could've just performed to what "everyone does", though it doesn't mean you're empathic by nature. The process in what makes you behave the way you do, is probably more important than actually acting said behaviour. I feel that in that way, it's sometimes a "cause and effect" type of deal, and that would require more extensive research I guess.

I do wonder though; did you expect that you might "suffer" from being on the spectrum, and therefore went to see a specialist? Or have you been sent there by another therapist?

Also; you mentioned; AS is no longer considered on the autism spectrum. What do you mean with AS? The gueses I have, sound really illogical, heh.

Pedro · Sep 25, 2011

King_Oni;bt565 said:
I read your intial post on this, and was kinda curious, as I should still contact a therapist who is specialized.

I always laugh about the entire "NOS" part. It's a label that can be put on any disorder if they're not entirely sure what the "problem" is.

I also wonder a bit on what their take is on "too social" or "too empathic"... afterall, you could've just performed to what "everyone does", though it doesn't mean you're empathic by nature. The process in what makes you behave the way you do, is probably more important than actually acting said behaviour. I feel that in that way, it's sometimes a "cause and effect" type of deal, and that would require more extensive research I guess.

I do wonder though; did you expect that you might "suffer" from being on the spectrum, and therefore went to see a specialist? Or have you been sent there by another therapist?

Also; you mentioned; AS is no longer considered on the autism spectrum. What do you mean with AS? The gueses I have, sound really illogical, heh.

The "NOS strategy" is an awesome one. But who am I to say!?

I can only hope my case gets some "more extensive research", as I got only 40 minutes. To be a bit clearer on how things went, the doctor got the idea that I'm empathetic because I have no problem approaching women and have some different ways to do so depending on how I perceive the lady's overall personality.

To answer your first question, I think I'm on the spectrum, as I said on my introduction post here a while ago.

As for your other question: yes, my doctor said Asperger Syndrome in not considered to be an ailment on the autism spectrum. I'm puzzled about this one too.

IContainMultitudes · Sep 25, 2011

Hmm, AS and PDDNOS not being on the autism spectrum anymore is news to me. I've heard stuff about how the term "Asperger's Syndrome" is likely to be left out of the DSM-V when it comes out in 2013 and how everything might just go under the general umbrella of High-Functioning Autism, but I'd never heard anything about AS not being part of the spectrum anymore, certainly not from any of the people I met with who pointed me toward a semi-official AS diagnosis. Is AS looked at differently in different countries?

King_Oni · Sep 25, 2011

Yeah, that's why I wondered what AS meant. I figured that Asperger's at least would still fall under autism. And even if it's part of HFA... still autism.

Why I asked on why you'd get "tested", so to say... in my situation, I can't just walk up to a GP or therapist and say; I might have this or this. Over here, it pretty much went on like "well, you're having problems with this and this... and the cause is perhaps somewhere on the autism spectrum". I knew I might be a spectrum-case, but that's not why I intially got sent to a therapist. So, because the "reason to seek out a therapist" apparently was different from mine, I wondered.

ICM; I don't think it's different by country, as they'll probably all use the DSM stuff. I can however imagine that disablity fundings are different and some countries put a lot of stress on the "an aspie can't work anywhere"... that might be the case as to "how official is it".

Pedro · Sep 25, 2011

IContainMultitudes;bt567 said:
Hmm, AS and PDDNOS not being on the autism spectrum anymore is news to me. I've heard stuff about how the term "Asperger's Syndrome" is likely to be left out of the DSM-V when it comes out in 2013 and how everything might just go under the general umbrella of High-Functioning Autism, but I'd never heard anything about AS not being part of the spectrum anymore, certainly not from any of the people I met with who pointed me toward a semi-official AS diagnosis. Is AS looked at differently in different countries?

What this doctor I saw said was that this view of Asperger's and PDD-NOS being ailments under the autism umbrella is an overcome approach. It no longer exists. Instead, Autism, Mild Autism and HFA - still classified as categories on the Autism group - and Asperger Syndrome and PDD-NOS are the ailments medically classified as Pervasive Development Disorder. That is, unless I got something wrong then.

I can say that this doctor is highly regarded in Brazil and is involved in congresses around the world. The funny thing is: as I mentioned my will to live abroad in a developed, civilized Country, such as Canada, the doctor told me he was about to go to a congress there to be held in two weeks or something.

Anyway, I do not endorse his points of view, as I feel I must disclosure. I'm just sharing some personal information. All this is my first step towards the truth.

Pedro · Sep 25, 2011

King_Oni;bt568 said:
Yeah, that's why I wondered what AS meant. I figured that Asperger's at least would still fall under autism. And even if it's part of HFA... still autism.

Why I asked on why you'd get "tested", so to say... in my situation, I can't just walk up to a GP or therapist and say; I might have this or this. Over here, it pretty much went on like "well, you're having problems with this and this... and the cause is perhaps somewhere on the autism spectrum". I knew I might be a spectrum-case, but that's not why I intially got sent to a therapist. So, because the "reason to seek out a therapist" apparently was different from mine, I wondered.

Just to make things clear: I didn't offend you, did I!? If so, excuse me. It wasn't my intention whatsoever. As I went to a private therapist, there was no reason I couldn't go there based just on my own assumptions. Actually, as they are quite serious and reasonable, I did what I should have done. But, again, perhaps things are different here.

ICM; I don't think it's different by country, as they'll probably all use the DSM stuff. I can however imagine that disablity fundings are different and some countries put a lot of stress on the "an aspie can't work anywhere"... that might be the case as to "how official is it".

We use the DSM stuff here. I can say that, in Brazil, we are pretty much up to date with the Western technology.

King_Oni · Sep 25, 2011

Pedro;bt570 said:
Just to make things clear: I didn't offend you, did I!? If so, excuse me. It wasn't my intention whatsoever. As I went to a private therapist, there was no reason I couldn't go there based just on my own assumptions. Actually, as they are quite serious and reasonable, I did what I should have done. But, again, perhaps things are different here.

Nah, wasn't offended... I'm re-reading to see how I should be offended by it... nevermind it I guess

But yeah... I think things are different there

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