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Yet ANOTHER young autistic boy has drowned in a retention pond in Orlando today.

Jumpinbare

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It has happened again today. A 4 year old autistic boy left his house and was found about an hour later floating dead in a retention pond in his neighborhood. It's only been a few weeks since this last happened to an autistic child around Orlando. It is always well covered on the news, so it's not like it's something unheard of. Every child drowning in a retention pond I hear about on the news is an autistic child.
 
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About my Defenestration. Defenestration means "throwing out of window". But i've pondered the thought of being thrown into the lake, a while back before my Defenestration.

I'm as autist not suicidal, nor do i think about sexuality either. So i'm healthy and strong/fit. But before i was Defenestrated through the car in health-care i remember thinking of Jumping into the lake next to our house in the health-care. I know they knew that (edit) through technology, but they are dumb.

My pain was strong, physically and mentally. But Royal Guards don't die for sinners unrightful pleasure. So I didn't die, but they sucked - me empty.

I have not learned to swim inclusively because I needed to learn how to drown. Like incels live with thoughts about not having children after they become adult and dying and cutting themselves.

It is reasonable to Cut evil people. Otherwise good people and children will cut themselves.
 
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It has happened again today. A 4 year old autistic boy left his house and was found about an hour later floating dead in a retention pond in his neighborhood.
The only way to prevent drownings is to teach kids how to swim, and no, 4 years old is not too young. When I was little we lived on the banks of the Murray River, all of us were taught to swim literally before we had learned to walk. This is generally the same for anyone that lives near a river, a lake, or the ocean.

We do have a lot of drownings in Australia but 99% of them are tourists or people that have migrated here recently. Our Easter weekend drowning toll was 7, not one of them was born here.
 
The only way to prevent drownings is to teach kids how to swim, and no, 4 years old is not too young. When I was little we lived on the banks of the Murray River, all of us were taught to swim literally before we had learned to walk.
That is more difficult for ASD2 & 3 children. I did not learn until I was around 11 and I still do not enjoy it. Treading water seems more difficult than it should be.

I had a near-drowning experience when I was younger. I am not afraid of water, generally, but still a bit afraid of water that is over my head.
 
That is more difficult for ASD2 & 3 children. I did not learn until I was around 11 and I still do not enjoy it.
Babies swim instinctively, the same crawling motion when in water is the style we call Doggy Paddle. Fear of water is something some of them are taught later. The kids in my family could all swim unsupervised by age 4.

Then we moved back to the city where a lot of kids aren't taught to swim until they start school. Swimming lessons are a compulsory part of the curriculum in primary schools here, starting at age 5.

We also have the Little Nippers program for kids that like that sort of thing, that's surf life saving training for ages 5 and up. They have to already be confident swimmers before they can start that training.

Nippers - Wikipedia
 
It has happened again today. A 4 year old autistic boy left his house and was found about an hour later floating dead in a retention pond in his neighborhood.
This is 100% a child care problem.

Parents/carers are strongly motivated (even if unconsciously) to look for external causes for their own failures, so there's always some kind of "some external power made it happen" argument.

But flip the script back to real life:

A child who can't swim should never get a chance to go near water unsupervised.
If some disorder or condition makes drowning even more likely, the need for adequate supervision is even more important, and the attempt to externalize blame even more egregious.

Outdated has described above how to mitigate the risks in "corner cases".
 
This is 100% a child care problem.
That is exactly the case, and I think our society took a step backwards when we made pool fencing compulsory. As a little kid I lived on the banks of a large river and we never heard of kids drowning, and they can't fence that off. And to some kids fences are no obstacle, I was a climber too.

One of the parents of a drowned child in Orlando has now been charged with criminal neglect, going out partying with her friends was more important to her than her child.

Florida mom arrested after toddler drowns in retention pond
 
In the great lakes we get a lot of visitors from areas of the country with small lakes. Many do not appreciate the power of water as well as the weight of large waves. It is sad when they get into trouble on our inland seas.
 
I almost drowned twice.
As a 10 years old on a summer camp's pool, and 2 years ago in my early 40s.

I know how to swim but once I was pushed intowthe pool (at 10) and the other time pulled by a rip current in Atlantic.

The counsellor of the camp group who was also a pool guard just fished me out and left me (barely breathing child) on the shore to just deal with it. I'm definitely more traumatized by the lack of help and any support then by drowning experience. Like nothing happened. No one checked on me, no one told my parents (not even me). But then again that was the story of my life.
 
In the great lakes we get a lot of visitors from areas of the country with small lakes. Many do not appreciate the power of water as well as the weight of large waves. It is sad when they get into trouble on our inland seas.

It frequently happens along the Gulf of Mexico, too. Many tourists are unaware of the meaning of the surf warning flags - red means don't enter the water, yellow means use extreme caution, etc.
 
In the great lakes we get a lot of visitors from areas of the country with small lakes. Many do not appreciate the power of water as well as the weight of large waves. It is sad when they get into trouble on our inland seas.
That and the fact that it’s not as warm as one would think, even in the summer. Can get hypothermia if you’re not prepared.
 
I almost drowned twice.
As a 10 years old on a summer camp's pool, and 2 years ago in my early 40s.

I know how to swim but once I was pushed intowthe pool (at 10) and the other time pulled by a rip current in Atlantic.

The counsellor of the camp group who was also a pool guard just fished me out and left me (barely breathing child) on the shore to just deal with it. I'm definitely more traumatized by the lack of help and any support then by drowning experience. Like nothing happened. No one checked on me, no one told my parents (not even me). But then again that was the story of my life.
So right about the power of rip currents. Many who don't live around large bodies of water fail to recognize return flows in surf, especially after storms.
 
So right about the power of rip currents. Many who don't live around large bodies of water fail to recognize return flows in surf, especially after storms.
Yes and the weird thing was I was just swimming along the shore in very quiet waters but the rip started suddenly and I got pulled in when I water. I lived in nazare then. Highest waves on the planet supposedly. But it's the rips that kill there most not the large waves
 
It frequently happens along the Gulf of Mexico, too. Many tourists are unaware of the meaning of the surf warning flags - red means don't enter the water, yellow means use extreme caution, etc.
Here we have two red and yellow flags on the more popular beaches and they designate the area that the surf life savers are keeping an eye on, and we tell tourists to always swim in between the flags.

So right about the power of rip currents. Many who don't live around large bodies of water fail to recognize return flows in surf, especially after storms.
That's part of the problem, inexperienced swimmers see a part of the beach that looks calmer and has less waves and they think that it looks safer to swim there. That is the rip current. I guess it also doesn't help that surfers use the rip currents to get out to deeper water.
 
Here we have two red and yellow flags on the more popular beaches and they designate the area that the surf life savers are keeping an eye on, and we tell tourists to always swim in between the flags.


That's part of the problem, inexperienced swimmers see a part of the beach that looks calmer and has less waves and they think that it looks safer to swim there. That is the rip current. I guess it also doesn't help that surfers use the rip currents to get out to deeper water.
They scare the bejeezes out of me. Around me many lose their lives when they are strolling on jetties going out to light houses when huge waves are overtopping the jetties, sweeping them, forcefully, off and into turbulent waters. But, damn: those huge waves are shipping several hundreds of pounds of water, not some amusement park splash.
 
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Around me many lose their lives when they are strolling on jetties going out to light houses when huge waves are overtopping the jetties, sweeping them, forcefully, off and into turbulent waters.
Here we have a lot of deaths from people trying to get the perfect selfie photos. Not just dangerous ocean conditions either, a lot of them will climb over the safety rail at popular mountain lookouts to get a better shot and then accidentally step backwards over the edge.
 
They scare the bejeezes out of me. Around me many lose their lives when they are strolling on jetties going out to light houses when huge waves are overtopping the jetties, sweeping them, forcefully, off and into turbulent waters. But, damn: those huge waves are shipping several hundreds of pounds of water, not some amusement park splash.
Yes!
When I lived in Portugal there on the coast, although I'm no expert I knew about those treacherous waters by the wintertime. So when I saw even adult tourists in winter go stalling along the shore barely up to their knees, I would always tell them to go out.
That's because some dies only walking up to their knees before big wave came and swallowed them.
 

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