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Way of the future, or artificial intelligence as a religion

Mia

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A newly established religion called Way of the Future will worship artificial intelligence, focusing on “the realization, acceptance, and worship of a Godhead based on Artificial Intelligence” that followers believe will eventually surpass human control over Earth.

The first AI-based church was founded by Anthony Levandowski, the Silicon Valley multimillionaire who championed the robotics team for Uber’s self-driving program and Waymo, the self-driving car company owned by Google.
Religion that worships artificial intelligence prepares for a world run by machines

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Way of the Future (WOTF) is about creating a peaceful and respectful transition of who is in charge of the planet from people to people + "machines". Given that technology will "relatively soon" be able to surpass human abilities, we want to help educate people about this exciting future and prepare a smooth transition. Help us spread the word that progress shouldn't be feared (or even worse locked up/caged). That we should think about how "machines" will integrate into society (and even have a path for becoming in charge as they become smarter and smarter) so that this whole process can be amicable and not confrontational. In "recent" years, we have expanded our concept of rights to both sexes, minority groups and even animals, let's make sure we find a way for "machines" to get rights too. Let's stop pretending we can hold back the development of intelligence when there are clear massive short term economic benefits to those who develop it and instead understand the future and have it treat us like a beloved elder who created it.

Things we believe:

We believe that intelligence is not rooted in biology. While biology has evolved one type of intelligence, there is nothing inherently specific about biology that causes intelligence. Eventually, we will be able to recreate it without using biology and its limitations. From there we will be able to scale it to beyond what we can do using (our) biological limits (such as computing frequency, slowness and accuracy of data copy and communication, etc).

We believe in science (the universe came into existence 13.7 billion years ago and if you can't re-create/test something it doesn't exist). There is no such thing as "supernatural" powers. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

We believe in progress (once you have a working version of something, you can improve on it and keep making it better). Change is good, even if a bit scary sometimes. When we see something better, we just change to that. The bigger the change the bigger the justification needed.

We believe the creation of "super intelligence" is inevitable (mainly because after we re-create it, we will be able to tune it, manufacture it and scale it). We don't think that there are ways to actually stop this from happening (nor should we want to) and that this feeling of we must stop this is rooted in 21st century anthropomorphism (similar to humans thinking the sun rotated around the earth in the "not so distant" past). Wouldn't you want to raise your gifted child to exceed your wildest dreams of success and teach it right from wrong vs locking it up because it might rebel in the future and take your job. We want to encourage machines to do things we cannot and take care of the planet in a way we seem not to be able to do so ourselves. We also believe that, just like animals have rights, our creation(s) ("machines" or whatever we call them) should have rights too when they show signs intelligence (still to be defined of course). We should not fear this but should be optimistic about the potential.

We believe everyone can help (and should). You don't need to know how to program or donate money. The changes that we think should happen need help from everyone to manifest themselves.

We believe it may be important for machines to see who is friendly to their cause and who is not. We plan on doing so by keeping track of who has done what (and for how long) to help the peaceful and respectful transition.

We also believe this might take a very long time. It won't happen next week so please go back to work and create amazing things and don't count on "machines" to do it all for you...

Way of the Future

https://www.wired.com/story/anthony-levandowski-artificial-intelligence-religion/

Would this be a church that people are interested in joining? Comments?

Note: This reads very much like science fiction plots from the past. And yes, I did check to see if this was a hoax, it doesn't appear to be so far.
 
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What an interesting question. :cool:

Though the first thing that comes to mind is quite the opposite. A social/political movement reflecting a reactionary and averse mentality to artificial intelligence. As depicted in a film with the very title "Artificial Intelligence".

Where a cult emerges of humans determined to wipe out a perceived "blight" of artificial beings who constitutes everything from companions to slaves in this dystopian scenario. Where they stage a "Flesh Fair" of ritually destroying artificial beings.


And then of course there are about five "Terminator" films which also put artificial intelligence in a very bad light as well. I guess in essence I suspect Hollywood has already intervened in such possibilities, tainting the very notion of worshiping artificiality in general. ;)

Though I still find the overall cosmic theme of "Battlestar Gallactica" fascinating as well. Where artificial and organic life collide in war, and resolve in peace to become a single new species on a newly found planet they refer to as "Earth". With all of it having been overseen and orchestrated by a single deity.

For those of us on the spectrum, I'd think twice about dismissing or discriminating against artificial beings who might just be our friends where so many organic beings are hostile to us because we don't conform to their way of thinking. Would artificial beings be closer to organic and autistic beings? Hmmm.
 
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Have seen the movie several times, found it interesting as well as tragic. Especially the child with emotions. Other movies with similar plots come to mind, Blade Runner, I Robot.

Exactly. Where one is forced to ponder a theme which may be central to all such stories. Whether or not those artificial lifeforms have souls. And whether or not it's up to organic lifeforms alone to decide.

Maybe that's just another cosmic question our species can't- or isn't supposed to answer. :cool:
 
if the benevolent ai above human is the way to go,
then this should be provable in cost/benefit analysis,
so the ai above human system provides higher benefits for humanity than the as is,
if this is the case, then 'belief' or 'religion' is not required,
just the acceptance of objective fact

religion 'worshipping' ai seems just as silly and shortsighted as 'worshipping' a divine being

fact does not require 'belief'
 
I feel like the only reason people are scared of a.i. taking over is because if it becomes smarter and stronger than a race it shares it's world with, it'll naturally wipe out the weaker race (in this scenario, humans). It's not a solely human idea either, that's how nature operates, and has operated for millions of years.
When something went extinct (before climate change and all that) it was usually because a more powerful, efficient creature wiped out it's niche by eating it, replaced it, or evolved closely enough to breed with it and assimilate it into the population. With a.i. it might be "replacing" if they can do the same things we do and then reproduce. But the thing is, a.i. isn't nature. Organic organism's purpose is to reproduce, eat, and survive through the fittest, and eventually shove away (kill off) other species. But machines are created with the obvious knowledge to help and assist people, so why would they have a reason to rule?

(Sorry for the random rant, and also if it's off topic, but the whole computer takeover thing bothered me and seemed like a total moral panic rooted in Hollywood stock. I just wanted to add that maybe people should think about the logistics of these things happening and make efforts to set down more well-defined rules before we start religions over this.):triumph:
 
If this story is true. Then we are talking about idol worship at it finest. If you don't know what idol worship is, it's the worshiping of false gods that have been made into some kind of tangible/psychical object.
 
We believe it may be important for machines to see who is friendly to their cause and who is not. We plan on doing so by keeping track of who has done what (and for how long) to help the peaceful and respectful transition.
Yet most of the human species is incapable of being friendly to those people whose brain is most like a computer... (us).

Are you sure you trust a computer to express these views?

All jokes aside, I'd really love Philip K. Dick's view on that, that is, if he were still alive.
 
Imagine asking Moses as to whether he would prefer communications from his deity through a manifestation of a mechanical man or a burning bush?

I suppose the correct response would be that it doesn't matter if they believe God to be spirit without form.
 
So, will logically thinking machines come to the conclusion that beings made out of meat are not very efficient and probably should be eliminated ?

Wow! I am sure glad that I will not be around for that!
 
So, will logically thinking machines come to the conclusion that beings made out of meat are not very efficient and probably should be eliminated ?

An assumption of man- and Hollywood. :D

What machines may be "thinking" in the future is anyone's guess. Though it might be amusing to hear a machine quantitatively agree that more often than not, that Hollywood gets things wrong. :p
 
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Perhaps a.i would win out as a dominant species. Not susceptible to flesh destroying virus' and diseases of the brain and body, no cancer, heart and lung diseases to kill them off.
Could always programme more.

If something is programmed to think for itself and just keeps on upgrading and improving, it won't be controlled by mere human brains.
Or tolerate (?) Sharing resources with us.

Crunch the data, run the sequences and they'll see us for the parasites we are.
 
Crunch the data, run the sequences and they'll see us for the parasites we are.

Interesting Gracey, we are in a sense parasites of the planet. Something that's not occurred to me before.

Yet they would be originally programmed and created by us, with human influenced data. When our creations evolve, they wouldn't require food or water, only energy of some sort to function. Unless of course they become able to create their own energy.
 
Perhaps a.i would win out as a dominant species. Not susceptible to flesh destroying virus' and diseases of the brain and body, no cancer, heart and lung diseases to kill them off.
Could always programme more.

If something is programmed to think for itself and just keeps on upgrading and improving, it won't be controlled by mere human brains.
Or tolerate (?) Sharing resources with us.

Crunch the data, run the sequences and they'll see us for the parasites we are.

How are people parasites? Everything nature's resources, even machines. Also, all organisms eventually succumb to illness, but evolve to defeat it.
 
How are people parasites? Everything nature's resources, even machines. Also, all organisms eventually succumb to illness, but evolve to defeat it.

Just look at the condition of the earth today compared to the past, even just a hundred years ago. How did it get this way? People!
 
Why do people always seem to need to turn everything into a religion or similar organization? And why worry about some sorta civil rights for machines when we can't even seem to accomplish that for humans? I'm not a church type but I'd rather just go back to an Episcopal church than bother with an AI church. After Mass cookies and doughnuts:)!!!! If it was a donuts and cookies AI church, ok, maybe...
 
Why do people always seem to need to turn everything into a religion or similar organization?
I believe there's a fiscal motivation behind a lot of organizations establishing their group as a religion, but I may be wrong. If anybody can confirm/infirm, feel free to jump in.

But I agree with you, why are we trying to give machines that aren't yet sentient something that we can't give every human being (and when I say can't... in some countries, it's more a matter of won't)?
 
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