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Unique job site can help neurodivergent people find meaningful work — while being themselves

Aeolienne

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(Not written by me)

Kelly Everly-Hall was ready for her interview. She wore a nice outfit, had reviewed her resume and knew she had many of the skills needed for the IT job she was seeking. But things went quickly downhill when she faced a panel of three interviewers, something she had never done before.

She got nervous, rambled and struggled to make eye contact. She had a hard time describing her skills, so she asked if she could demonstrate them on a computer. The answer was no. She didn’t feel comfortable asking clarifying questions.

“I knew 10 minutes into it that I wasn’t going to get the job,” says Everly-Hall, whose autism makes some social settings difficult. “It was like I lost before I even started.”

A new job marketplace seeks to remedy that problem by connecting neurodivergent people like Everly-Hall with companies that have committed neurodiversity hiring programs. Launched this month, the Neurodiversity Career Connector features job listings by U.S. employers seeking applicants with autism spectrum disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), dyslexia and other conditions associated with neurodivergent, or atypical, brain functioning.

The site was launched by the Neurodiversity @ Work Employer Roundtable, a group of nearly 50 companies with neurodiversity hiring programs and support systems for new employees. Microsoft leads the group, which wants to decrease job barriers and improve neurodiversity in the workplace.

“We’re trying to solve the problem where employers say they want to hire neurodivergent talent and can’t find people. And we have job seekers who say they can’t find who all these employers are,” says Neil Barnett, director of Accessibility and Inclusive Hiring at Microsoft.

The concept of neurodiversity emerged in the ‘90s as an inclusive movement that views neurological and developmental conditions as normal variations in cognitive traits that should be embraced as a part of human diversity. An estimated 15% to 20% of people around the world have a neurodivergent condition. Autism, the initial focus of many neurodiversity hiring programs, affects about 2% of American adults.

Some neurodivergent people struggle with social dynamics and new environments like traditional job interviews, which highlight social skills and the ability to answer vague questions like “Describe a challenge you faced,” says Susanne Bruyere, academic director of the Yang-Tan Institute on Employment and Disability at Cornell University.

That barrier leads to an enormous job gap in which only 14% of working-age adults with autism have a paid job in the community, according to a Drexel University study.

“It’s important that we rethink how we screen people so we’re not discouraging or eliminating people who are neurodivergent,” says Bruyere. “This career platform is a huge signal of welcoming. It is saying, ‘We recognize this is an untapped population of talent, and we are going to minimize the barriers people may have historically experienced.’”

Before employers can list jobs on the site, they must have a neurodiversity hiring program in place for at least a year and be public about it. That usually means having trained recruiters, coaching and supported interviews with detailed guidance and extra breaks.

One such company, the global professional services firm EY, has hired more than 300 people in seven countries through a “center of excellence” model since 2016. The program emphasizes camaraderie, job coaches and structured, explicit communication with no “unspoken, unofficial rules.” Interviews focus on skills, not social behaviors.

“It strips out, ‘Did the person make eye contact? How witty were they?’” says Hiren Shukla, leader of the Neuro-Diverse Center of Excellence at EY Global.

Many of the program’s employees work on new data technologies, where the collaborative mix of thinking styles — spontaneous, logical, visual, detail-oriented, hyperfocused — can lead to transformative work and innovation.

“Large organizations are really good at assimilation to build large workforces that inadvertently shave away the beautiful, unique edges and what the neurodivergent community often refers to as their ‘spiky profiles,’” Shukla says. “But it’s the spiky profile you want to retain and support to allow that innovation to rise to the surface.”

Companies seeking neurodivergent talent often recruit through informal networks and relationships with local universities, nonprofits and advocacy groups — a time-intensive process for both recruiters and job seekers. The neurodiversity job site fills a need for a large-scale, national marketplace with a broad range of jobs, employers and people.

Recently, the site brimmed with listings from small and large companies for software engineers, graphic designers, financial analysts and more. Job seekers can create a profile, upload a resume and connect with employers directly.

Everly-Hall, who was diagnosed with autism in her 40s, says the platform would be helpful if she had to look for work again.

“I could be myself and say this is who I am,” she says. “It would cause me less stress knowing I can just say, ‘I’m on the spectrum. You understand this. I understand this.’”

But Everly-Hall is not looking for work because she’s happy with her job at Ultranauts, a rapidly growing software and data quality engineering firm built with neurodiversity in mind. More than 75% of its employees are neurodivergent. The majority are autistic, many have ADHD or dyslexia, and some are non-speaking or hard of hearing.

When Everly-Hall interviewed with the company in 2015, she disclosed her autism and found her interviewer to be patient and understanding. Seven years later, she still appreciates the supportive workplace, which includes a mentor who helps her interpret social subtext, and the chance to become a leader, an opportunity she lacked at previous jobs.

“I was really made to feel at ease right away, like, ‘We don’t care you have this disability. What we care about is your experience,’” says Everly-Hall, a senior quality analyst and accessibility consultant who works from home in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Founded in 2013, Ultranauts has designed a “Universal Workplace” that allows employees to fully participate and collaborate with colleagues who are different than them. It reduces hiring barriers by not requiring specific degrees or a certain number of years of experience. It favors skills assessments over chatty interviews to determine job fit.

Employees, who work remotely across 30 states in the U.S., are encouraged to communicate in their preferred mode — writing, speaking, being on camera or off. Leadership communication is explicit and transparent to reduce ambiguity and anxiety.

“The advantage we have is not from individual team members being exceptional, but in bringing together different brain types, information processing models and perspectives, and forging collaborative teams,” says Rajesh Anandan, Ultranauts cofounder and CEO.

Neurodiversity also strengthens the workforce at Microsoft, which has hired about 200 people across engineering and business disciplines through its neurodiversity hiring program.

“By adjusting the front door of our interview process, we are finding incredible talent that we previously may have been missing out on,” says Barnett. He hopes more employers will join the job site to enrich the talent at their companies and the lives of neurodivergent people.

For Jason Ross, the platform is a major step in supporting people who have struggled like him.

Before landing a cybersecurity job recently, Ross, who has autism, spent many demoralizing months searching for work and many years getting fired from job after job while trying to navigate workplace dynamics.

“It’s very hard when you want to do well at this thing and you can’t do well at this thing to the point where can’t support yourself,” says Ross, who lives in Virginia and has a master’s degree in cybersecurity studies.

He never discussed his autism at previous jobs but made a bold move this time and disclosed to his new manager. He’s following a mentor’s advice to be upfront and simply tell people he doesn’t “excel in social nuance.” He’s nervous and hopeful about the opportunity to work.

“I’m not less than. I’m different and that’s OK,” Ross says.

He’s also excited about the job site, which he and other neurodivergent people helped shape with their feedback and lived experiences.

“It’s a phenomenal resource,” he says. “It’s made for us, by us. That level of understanding, baked in from the jump, is a meaningful distinction for this platform versus going on any general job platform and throwing your resume into the world.”

Source: Microsoft
 

Ronald Zeeman

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I have gone on hundreds of interviews over the years, many were not successful probably due to my autism. once I got experience landing them got easier as my resume spoke for itself.
 

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I never had any trouble with interviews either, once I had enough experience and confidence in myself. Speaking to people in this sort of situation is one of my talents, quite often I found myself interviewing the potential employer and if I wasn't happy with them I'd apologise for wasting their time and leave.
 

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The strangest interview I ever had in my life also turned in to the longest job I ever held in my life:
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One year and two jobs later I phoned Kev. I didn't know at the time because I'd phoned his mobile but I disturbed his annual Christmas holiday with his kids at the beach down at Sorento. "Hi Kev, I'm looking for work again and I thought you might be able to put in a good word for me with a few people." Kev started chatting and told me that he'd left Pete's Printery and started his own business, Duo Print. "That's fantastic Kev. You can give me a job!".

He said "No I can't." and I said "Too late, I work for you now!" Kev said "I can't pay you." and I said "I don't care, I'm going to work for you.". Kev said "You don't understand, I can't afford to pay you.". I said "Come off it Kev, a good printer earns you money, not costs you money.". Kev said "I know that better than most but you're not listening, I have no money. I can not pay you. I can not even afford groceries to feed my children. Do Not Quit Your Job!".

"Oh crap! Too late Kev, I've been out of work for three weeks now, looks like I start for you on Monday!". Poor Kev tried again, "You aren't listening! I have no money, I can not pay you." and I said "That's all sweet Kev, I'm not earning any money at the moment anyway. I'll come down to your place and play with some of your toys and if it works you can fix me up later. It's all good! What's your address? I'll see you Monday."

That was when Kev explained to me that he was actually on holiday with his kids, He left them and the wife there and travelled back to town to try and talk sense in to me, he invited me around his house in Sandringham the next night. That is the strangest job interview I've ever had in my life, he had a big bag of some mediocre weed and I had a little bag of some really wicked stuff, we mixed the two together (no tobacco) and rolled a couple of really big scoobs and sat in his spa drinking beer, smoking weed and arguing.

He kept explaining more and more detail about his finances and had real trouble understanding that I didn't care, what he couldn't understand was that I had complete faith in his integrity, I knew him to be an honest man although he sometimes doubted this about himself. I explained to him over and over that I was currently earning no money, if I came and worked for him and he couldn't pay me then I was losing nothing. Eventually he caved in just to shut me up, he took me to his workshop and showed me a few jobs I could finish that would free him up to spend the rest of the holidays with his kids.

I looked after it for him, a week later when he got back from his holiday he got me doing some serious work, a week after that he pulled me aside for a serious talk about money. Not only was my work of high standard but also this had freed him up to go and represent himself to prospective clients. And many design houses were used to dealing with him on a professional basis, not only that, Printers develop reputations in much the same way Chefs do, many of them remembered my work from Pete's Printery and were glad to know where to find me again. Work was rolling in, Kev said I was no longer allowed to leave on less than a month's notice.
 

Ronald Zeeman

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before I retired when they would interview me, they would give a tour I could instantly see what needed to be fixed on the process based on previous experience If I got the position that is what I would do even to the point of letting them use this for my yearly evaluation, I so convinced my supervisor at the time he put it on his evaluation which his supervisor told me later when it was successful the start of building my reputation as a miracle worker. they did not want me to retire as the company was just bought by a bigger company due to the changes we had made over the years. Absolute control over colour including prints that to then was considered not possible plus their competitors could not do it, as far to this day I do not think it can be replicated as I am retired and have no intention of showing anyone else what I did or how I did it. My former employer is deeply worried I will pass on my knowledge to one of their competitors as they currently have a monopoly, cannot even pass it onto a sister plant as even they do not know exactly what I did. It sure helps when you can see what others cannot.
 
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