Males and females with autism show an extreme of the typical male mind

[Saragrl]

I found this study last night and had a total *face palm* moment. Do these doctors really believe that being being systematic is extreme male and and empathy is female? To me that like saying Spock is more of a man then Kirk. There is so much more to the human brain then this stupid measurement. Being trans myself, I really could care less if some one said I had male brain structures. To tell me I am extreme male is ******** science, even before I transitioned not a single person who knew me would say I have an extreme male mind.

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-with-autism-show-an-extreme-of-the-typical-male-mind

 

[Hidden]

At school my psychology class is evaluating a study done on autism by Baron-Cohen. I hate it. They just go on and on about empathisers, and systemisers, and the oh so obvious "extreme-male brain". I'm getting into trouble because I'm not paying attention or participating in discussions.

 

[Saragrl]

I think I would put in my input. I hate misinformation. I'm not a very big fan of his work. I think his thresholds for who is autisic is very low and is part of the reason why diagnosis has spiked. I think he is way off track on this extreme male thing. I know we can seemingly come off in that way, but we act that way we so for different reasons. I have seen people that are "extreme males". Yes they systemise, because they don't feel there is a place for emotions, usually out of social constructs. We systemise to make sense of a world that would otherwise overwhelm us.

While they don't seem to empathize to well, they very well have access to those abilities and feelings. Where our brains are wired in a way that makes it very difficult. Also when ever I hear that "extreme male" thing all I can think is he must think we are like cave men.

 

[KassieMac]

If this were true, then I would understand men better than I understand women, and men would relate better to female Aspies than other females. In my case, that is not true.

 

[GoofKing]

So, this is pseudo science that some doctor pulled out of his or her's *** to make headline news and further their fame and career as a certified quack ?

 

[Hidden]

I think I would put in my input. I hate misinformation. I'm not a very big fan of his work. I think his thresholds for who is autisic is very low and is part of the reason why diagnosis has spiked. I think he is way off track on this extreme male thing. I know we can seemingly come off in that way, but we act that way we so for different reasons. I have seen people that are "extreme males". Yes they systemise, because they don't feel there is a place for emotions, usually out of social constructs. We systemise to make sense of a world that would otherwise overwhelm us.

While they don't seem to empathize to well, they very well have access to those abilities and feelings. Where our brains are wired in a way that makes it very difficult. Also when ever I hear that "extreme male" thing all I can think is he must think we are like cave men.

I don't participate usually anyway - I hate public speaking. It's me ignoring the teacher that's annoying her.
I wish someone would say something, though.

 

[Annie White]

I found this study last night and had a total *face palm* moment. Do these doctors really believe that being being systematic is extreme male and and empathy is female? To me that like saying Spock is more of a man then Kirk. There is so much more to the human brain then this stupid measurement. Being trans myself, I really could care less if some one said I had male brain structures. To tell me I am extreme male is ******** science, even before I transitioned not a single person who knew me would say I have an extreme male mind.

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-with-autism-show-an-extreme-of-the-typical-male-mind

But... Spock IS more of a man than Kirk. At least in a more chivilrious way, id say. Totally off subject, but i would totally date Spock before id ever look at Kirk. K im done, sorry. lol

 

[AsheSkyler]

Most people do get ruffled over the "extreme male mind" thing. It usually just makes me giggle. When I hear "all Aspies are male minded", I imagine a bunch of men and women in chaps, one leg up on a fence post, and spitting a stream of tobacco onto the ground and goin' "yup". And having a conversation that goes something like this:
Dude: "How'd it go with Willie last night?"
Dudette: "I dunno. Everything seemed fine, then he burst into tears and ran into the other room."
Dude: "Yeah, that happens with me and Margaret sometimes. I got a buddy in town that sells real good flowers, that usually makes it right. You might need to bring some to Willie."
Dudette: "I reckon so. Where's this buddy's shop at?"

But... Spock IS more of a man than Kirk. At least in a more chivilrious way, id say. Totally off subject, but i would totally date Spock before id ever look at Kirk. K im done, sorry. lol

Quite! Love your tagline under your avatar, by the way. =)

 

[Jono]

Simon-Baron Cohen's E-S theory. I think that he now uses the term hyper-systemizing rather than "extreme male brain".

 

[Annie White]

Most people do get ruffled over the "extreme male mind" thing. It usually just makes me giggle. When I hear "all Aspies are male minded", I imagine a bunch of men and women in chaps, one leg up on a fence post, and spitting a stream of tobacco onto the ground and goin' "yup". And having a conversation that goes something like this:
Dude: "How'd it go with Willie last night?"
Dudette: "I dunno. Everything seemed fine, then he burst into tears and ran into the other room."
Dude: "Yeah, that happens with me and Margaret sometimes. I got a buddy in town that sells real good flowers, that usually makes it right. You might need to bring some to Willie."
Dudette: "I reckon so. Where's this buddy's shop at?"


Quite! Love your tagline under your avatar, by the way. =)

lol, thank you.