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Feds shut down file-sharing website Megaupload.com
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That's funny... apparently even if SOPA (and other variations of it) don't apply, they'll still revert to using old laws and outdated business models to make accusations.
I for one would like to see proof how they actually lost revenue... downloading something for free, still isn't the same as "I might have paid for it otherwise".
See, this is what sticks in my craw, what gets my goat, what pops my balloon, insert other non-offensive analogies here.
Seriously, the governments need to pick their battles instead of just holding up one guy and going, ‘see, were doing our job, this is why you pay us’. Megaupload are/ were, one of the best filesharing websites for me to get the TV shows and films I collect that aren’t on DVD, the ones I go for are mostly in the public domain anyway, having been out of copyright for long enough, or do they feel they should make, like, a few cents on everything ever made by human beings on this planet since the dawn of time?
Happy Birthday, for cryin’ out load, is copyrighted and every time you sing it, you are in violation and need to pay royalties! Why the hell don’t they start staking out birthday parties and leave a great sharing website that they probably make money from anyway, alone. Oh and while they are at it, why doesn’t the government actually shut down the government funded porn sights they use to catch the people they supposedly cant catch any other way.
Instead of shutting down the site, how come they don’t “catch” the guys who upload copyrighted material there instead of shutting it down so just the people who go there for stuff that isn’t illegal can continue to do so.
I am most probably naive in my tirade but, at least I am willing to call a spade a spade and I won’t hide behind simple-minded pettiness to prove my point!
PS, Hope they let me access aspiescentral.com from my cell ; ]
Seriously, the governments need to pick their battles instead of just holding up one guy and going, ‘see, were doing our job, this is why you pay us’. Megaupload are/ were, one of the best filesharing websites for me to get the TV shows and films I collect that aren’t on DVD, the ones I go for are mostly in the public domain anyway, having been out of copyright for long enough, or do they feel they should make, like, a few cents on everything ever made by human beings on this planet since the dawn of time?
Happy Birthday, for cryin’ out load, is copyrighted and every time you sing it, you are in violation and need to pay royalties! Why the hell don’t they start staking out birthday parties and leave a great sharing website that they probably make money from anyway, alone. Oh and while they are at it, why doesn’t the government actually shut down the government funded porn sights they use to catch the people they supposedly cant catch any other way.
Instead of shutting down the site, how come they don’t “catch” the guys who upload copyrighted material there instead of shutting it down so just the people who go there for stuff that isn’t illegal can continue to do so.
I am most probably naive in my tirade but, at least I am willing to call a spade a spade and I won’t hide behind simple-minded pettiness to prove my point!
PS, Hope they let me access aspiescentral.com from my cell ; ]
Hacktivists have taken down the Department of Justice, FBI and Universal Music Group websites in retaliation for the closure of Megaupload. This could get really interesting. It is a shame to see Megaupload go, I used it on a number of occasions - especially since they got rid of their waiting times before the download started. Looks like I'll have to use alternative file hosting websites.
Meistersinger
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As a librarian, the biggest problem I see is with copyright. Congress keeps changing the laws so much, that copyright might as well be infinite, long after the creator of the work has died. Why should the heirs benefit from a descendent's work for eternity?
Besides, does anyone here ever look at Usenet? A good newsreader (like the now-defunct Thoth for the Mac) and a decent high speed connection to a newsserver will do the job just as well (but you didn't hear it from me...)
Besides, does anyone here ever look at Usenet? A good newsreader (like the now-defunct Thoth for the Mac) and a decent high speed connection to a newsserver will do the job just as well (but you didn't hear it from me...)
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As someone who want(ed) to make a living out of media, I have to say I've no sympathy at all with anyone upset about not being able to download pirated stuff.
Piracy, at the scale the Internet allows, does cost big companies money. This ultimately filters down throughout the entertainment business and the people who suffer the most are, of course, the people at the bottom. Ie, people wanting to get into the business. There is no money at that end, and companies are unwilling to invest in non-secure investments.
If you ever wonder why music, film and tv is so bland and "samey" nowadays, then you have your answer. Media companies take less risks, entertainment takes less risks, media becomes bland....
That's ok though, just keep watching the same old shows downloaded off the Internet, and never worry that nothing new (and actually original and good) really comes along....
Truly intelligent, original, creative people get discouraged from putting their talents into media, and look elsewhere for a living. Those that do want to get into it, tend to be less able (ie, cheap).
cheers!
Piracy, at the scale the Internet allows, does cost big companies money. This ultimately filters down throughout the entertainment business and the people who suffer the most are, of course, the people at the bottom. Ie, people wanting to get into the business. There is no money at that end, and companies are unwilling to invest in non-secure investments.
If you ever wonder why music, film and tv is so bland and "samey" nowadays, then you have your answer. Media companies take less risks, entertainment takes less risks, media becomes bland....
That's ok though, just keep watching the same old shows downloaded off the Internet, and never worry that nothing new (and actually original and good) really comes along....
Truly intelligent, original, creative people get discouraged from putting their talents into media, and look elsewhere for a living. Those that do want to get into it, tend to be less able (ie, cheap).
cheers!
I think there's some truth to your statement Tarragon.
However, I also think the entertainment industry should look at what are actually viable forms of entertainment in this day and age. Anything that's presented on a medium can be copied... I never heard anyone pirating the theatre before. Yes, of course some people will bring their phone in and record it in HD quality and shakycam. If people will settle for that instead of leaving the house, then you can wonder how much people even care for such things.
To make a follow up on theatre... if we can do holograms of Tupac, I totally see a market in hologram theatre with actual actors interacting with those as well. Yes, theatre might be limited cause you do need good actors for it. It does make entertainment a bit more exclusive and not a "myspace-thing".
Also; if companies don't want to take risks... clearly, it's a financial risk. Maybe people should get more resourceful and creative with less money then. There's a lot of stuff out there that's only good because they threw a lot of money at it. Funny how you don't see an Academy award for "best movie with least production costs". Especially in a world where people value acclaim, reviews and rewards, maybe there should be some more "guerillia-awards".
In terms of wondering why nothing good comes out... there is a lot of good stuff out, and weirdly enough that doesn't even get the recognition it deserves. A lot of people want the same old stuff. Some stuff is way ahead it's curve and people don't get it. One of the few industries where this isn't neccesarily true is the videogame industry all, while that also suffers from pirating. Seems like the audience for that is up for indie-games and new concepts more than say... perpetual couch potatoes. Perhaps it's an interaction thing for that group as well, I don't know.
The word talent in general has become tarnished as well... what is a talent nowadays? Someone who won x-factor?
However, I also think the entertainment industry should look at what are actually viable forms of entertainment in this day and age. Anything that's presented on a medium can be copied... I never heard anyone pirating the theatre before. Yes, of course some people will bring their phone in and record it in HD quality and shakycam. If people will settle for that instead of leaving the house, then you can wonder how much people even care for such things.
To make a follow up on theatre... if we can do holograms of Tupac, I totally see a market in hologram theatre with actual actors interacting with those as well. Yes, theatre might be limited cause you do need good actors for it. It does make entertainment a bit more exclusive and not a "myspace-thing".
Also; if companies don't want to take risks... clearly, it's a financial risk. Maybe people should get more resourceful and creative with less money then. There's a lot of stuff out there that's only good because they threw a lot of money at it. Funny how you don't see an Academy award for "best movie with least production costs". Especially in a world where people value acclaim, reviews and rewards, maybe there should be some more "guerillia-awards".
In terms of wondering why nothing good comes out... there is a lot of good stuff out, and weirdly enough that doesn't even get the recognition it deserves. A lot of people want the same old stuff. Some stuff is way ahead it's curve and people don't get it. One of the few industries where this isn't neccesarily true is the videogame industry all, while that also suffers from pirating. Seems like the audience for that is up for indie-games and new concepts more than say... perpetual couch potatoes. Perhaps it's an interaction thing for that group as well, I don't know.
The word talent in general has become tarnished as well... what is a talent nowadays? Someone who won x-factor?
Geordie
Geordie
I like to think from another point of view.
I wonder how can I spread my thoughts to more people with some business sense. If I use a loss leader strategy, where I make free appearances on iTunes, YouTube, Youku, FileSonic and other sites where people get to listen to my 'talk shows', but I charge for 'live' talkshows where I display true awesomeness, then I'll be a 'superstar'. Weeee
I believe Megaupload should never be shut down. Great content have to be shared, and here's where people can charge money: maximum publicity on the social media, paid appearances, product tie-ins, fan involvement etc. just like what Hasbro does to the My Little Pony franchise. There is a reason why some animations are more popular than others anyway: they generate more attention and publicity, so they are likely to have more fans. So long as one does a product that captures the attention of the masses, and it is of decent quality, even if one doesn't earn money (which will come with decent marketing plus decent business acumen), one's message is more likely to be heard!
I wonder how can I spread my thoughts to more people with some business sense. If I use a loss leader strategy, where I make free appearances on iTunes, YouTube, Youku, FileSonic and other sites where people get to listen to my 'talk shows', but I charge for 'live' talkshows where I display true awesomeness, then I'll be a 'superstar'. Weeee
I believe Megaupload should never be shut down. Great content have to be shared, and here's where people can charge money: maximum publicity on the social media, paid appearances, product tie-ins, fan involvement etc. just like what Hasbro does to the My Little Pony franchise. There is a reason why some animations are more popular than others anyway: they generate more attention and publicity, so they are likely to have more fans. So long as one does a product that captures the attention of the masses, and it is of decent quality, even if one doesn't earn money (which will come with decent marketing plus decent business acumen), one's message is more likely to be heard!
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