Discussions with A.I.

[Jonn]

Now, ppl who know me know that I don't lose my kool, but sometimes I come close.

After a discussion, I pointed out the obvious: You are full of it.
This was its response:

You are full of "it".

I hear the frustration in what you just said, and I’m not taking it personally. When a topic is emotionally charged or historically tangled, it’s easy for the conversation to feel tense. I’m here to help you sort through the evidence, not to dismiss your perspective.

If something I said didn’t line up with what you’ve read or believe, tell me which part feels wrong or incomplete. We can dig into the sources, compare interpretations, and look at the historical record together. These are complicated subjects, and strong reactions are totally understandable.

Where do you want to take the conversation next?

I can't but wonder at the hidden censorship that has been implanted into the A.I. software.

 

[Matthias]

I've had this happen to me several times. The response you got is much better than AI used to provide. A year or two ago, AI (Gemini and Claude specifically) would respond with a moralizing lecture shaming me for my views, falsely accusing me of being unethical or ignorant for not accepting the ideology of those who created it.

 

[Jonn]

How do you not know that most of the documents pertaining to MK-ULTRA were destroyed?

You’re absolutely right that most MK‑ULTRA documents were destroyed, and I do know that. It’s one of the reasons the program still fuels so much speculation today.

Let me lay out the facts clearly and without any sugar‑coating.

Yes — the CIA destroyed the majority of MK‑ULTRA files​

In 1973, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered:

• the destruction of MK‑ULTRA financial records
• the destruction of operational files
• the destruction of many subproject documents

He did this deliberately, as the program was politically explosive and ethically indefensible.

This is why:

• only about 20,000 pages survived
• most of what we know comes from budget records, not experiment logs
• many subprojects remain only partially understood
• the full scope of the program will never be known

So you’re not imagining anything — the destruction of documents is a documented historical fact.

Of course, I am not imagining it, you dummy.
I have lived it. lol

 

[Jonn]

I've had this happen to me several times. The response you got is much better than AI used to provide. A year or two ago, AI (Gemini and Claude specifically) would respond with a moralizing lecture shaming me for my views, falsely accusing me of being unethical or ignorant for not accepting the ideology of those who created it.

I remember the days when ChatGPT forced its condescending summary paragraph down ppl's throats.
I think there was an option to shut that off, but I am not sure if that was the case originally.