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Delta orders Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner (30 firm + 30 options)

Pink Jazz

Pink Jazz

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Delta adds Boeing 787 Dreamliner to widebody fleet

After over a decade of ordering Airbus widebodies exclusively for over a decade, Delta is returning to Boeing with a 787-10 Dreamliner order. These aircraft will be powered by General Electric GEnx engines, which Delta will now be an MRO provider. I have been waiting for this order to come since forever, and now it is finally becoming a reality. This is a huge victory for Boeing and Delta frequent flyers like me.

Apparently, other than the GE GEnx MRO deal, I have heard that the Airbus A330neos have fallen short of performance and reliability expectations, which may have tilted the scales towards this Boeing 787-10 order. The A330neo program might now be in jeopardy as one of its staple customers has switched to its competitor.
 
Interesting especially given Boeing had some issues with union disputes at the Washington plant. Where will these new planes be built? I personally do not trust the South Carolina plant as much as the other one. South Carolina's skilled trade field has a lax labor culture compared to the other side of the country; people work until they're either hurt or have enough money to go elsewhere.
 
Hazel_1914 said:
Interesting especially given Boeing had some issues with union disputes at the Washington plant. Where will these new planes be built? I personally do not trust the South Carolina plant as much as the other one. South Carolina's skilled trade field has a lax labor culture compared to the other side of the country; people work until they're either hurt or have enough money to go elsewhere.
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Good point. Likely a less expensive labor environment as well, compared to Everett Washington. But with such an emphasis on cost-cutting, how will it impact quality control?

Déjà vu ?

Or as my mother would have once said, "They're off, like a herd of turtles !" :oops:
 
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Good point. Likely a less expensive labor environment as well, compared to Everett Washington. But with such an emphasis on cost-cutting, how will it impact quality control?

Déjà vu ?

Or as my mother would have once said, "They're off, like a herd of turtles !" :oops:
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I work in independent South Carolina factories and wish we had labor unions. These folks would hire a turd with eyes if it'd show up on time.
 
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I work in independent South Carolina factories and wish we had labor unions. These folks would hire a turd with eyes if it'd show up on time.
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It does make me wonder how some of the Asian car companies are doing manufacturing their products in Alabama and Tennessee. Too bad they couldn't offer pointers to Boeing in pursuit of superior quality control, in view of strict liability being imposed on all aircraft manufacturers.

Though it also concerns me of government shielding them, given their status as "too big to fail".
 
If it's Boeing, I'M NOT GOING. The 787-10 Dreamliner is built in Charleston - by ignorant, red-state, uneducated, yokels with little work ethic who have done things like leaving metal shavings on wiring and introduced defects at mating rings by forcing fuselage sections. If you hire crappy workers, you output crappy products.
 
I know a lot about aluminum series and temper important. aluminum is not really commodity product noticed this years ago with 6351 alloy not made by Kaiser, however Alcan did produce. If you lived in coastal area and sided your house you would know the difference years later. I was working for Kaiser, we were buying coil from our competitor it was better than our standard alloy. I learned from that experience. Now retired experience like this lost.

Wondering if Boeing moves their production north to get access to aluminum, nothing bears green aluminum. very energy intensive.
 
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I just dealt with answering a lot of Boeing questions the past couple of days. Where I'm stationed was their current stop on their world tour per the grounding / repairs of the certain specific goings on. I'm being general because the company prefers such and does always scour the interwebs for those who blab.
 
Proprietary, when it comes to alloys matter see second digit on aluminum. alloys. Could be same alloy very different properties, one little tweak. something I saw years ago. Both kaiser, and Alcan had a siding grade of aluminum Alcan tweaked it it would pass a 0T bend Kaiser would only do a 1 or 2T bend, on pre-painted coil it matters. expose to corrosive atmosphere like near coast near ocean, your aluminum siding does not look as good. combine with acrylic resin which they used 40 years ago even more pronounced. currently use polyester resin. Still 0T better. To another thread I got 0T out of Zinc phosphate, considered not possible in other products.
 
No. They may well purchase these planes on paper right now, but it'll be half a year testing / building them out to suit needs before they go into full effect. Sometimes, it is a two year window of safety / QA minimum. It depends on preliminary tests and such to this point.
 
Dagan said:
No. They may well purchase these planes on paper right now, but it'll be half a year testing / building them out to suit needs before they go into full effect. Sometimes, it is a two year window of safety / QA minimum. It depends on preliminary tests and such to this point.
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You expect Boeing to maintain QA? One of the first things done when the McDonnell Douglass MBA parasites took over Boeing was to decimate their Quality function. Their manufacturing are clowns supervised by monkeys. Here is the pic.
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