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Aspergers Reality Hidden

Aet1985

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I have been very worried on how I have been feeling, is Aspergers actually an illness, or neurologically and body systems we are sensitive? I ask because at times I don't feel ''equipped'' for the ''NT Reality''. I can get anxiety attacks randomly, feel fatigued, confused, and or not on the same page as NT's Men. I can't ''push myself'' for very long periods, such as years ago I worked at Burger King, and between the pace and management screaming, I was getting IBS. I am trying to get my life together, talking with a woman at the moment, and see what happens. I don't know if we age quicker, at 39 I feel a lot older, from years of stress, anxiety and OCD.
 
I get tired quickly but usually due to too much peopling (over social stimulation) and then I edge towards a shutdown so I hsve to balance it but I only feel physically unwell in shut down phases it makes me feel sick
 
For me, the easiest way of understanding it is to understand that the "mind" is the result of complicated interactions between body parts (primarily parts of the central nervous system).

Complicated interactions can interact in a whole variety of ways, depending on the initial conditions.

In people who are autistic, the initial conditions (brain formation and brain chemistry) differ from average enough in predictable ways that they form a definable cluster that can be fit into a box labeled "autistic."
 
I have been very worried on how I have been feeling, is Aspergers actually an illness, or neurologically and body systems we are sensitive? I ask because at times I don't feel ''equipped'' for the ''NT Reality''. I can get anxiety attacks randomly, feel fatigued, confused, and or not on the same page as NT's Men. I can't ''push myself'' for very long periods, such as years ago I worked at Burger King, and between the pace and management screaming, I was getting IBS. I am trying to get my life together, talking with a woman at the moment, and see what happens. I don't know if we age quicker, at 39 I feel a lot older, from years of stress, anxiety and OCD.
It is a disorder yes. Those with milder autism might be able to mask and function well. But it is still a disorder which at its worse could render one nonverbal and unable to ever live without 24/7 support. So it's a bit perplexing sometimes when people claim that it's a superpower. I've read some perplexing theories that claim autistic people are superhuman and even the next stage of human evolution. They'd probably not say that if they were Level 3
 
I have been very worried on how I have been feeling, is Aspergers actually an illness, or neurologically and body systems we are sensitive?
Not an illness. A biological (neuroanatomical/neurophysiological) difference.
I ask because at times I don't feel ''equipped'' for the ''NT Reality''.
...because of this difference. We are not "them". When I say that, I have to remind myself that this is not coming from a perspective of animosity, but rather self-acceptance. We walk in the same physical world as neurotypicals, but we internalize it different than they do.
I can get anxiety attacks randomly, feel fatigued, confused, and or not on the same page as NT's Men. I can't ''push myself'' for very long periods, such as years ago I worked at Burger King, and between the pace and management screaming, I was getting IBS.
Yes. Very real manifestations of this physiologic stress. These can be real physical health issues, especially over the long-term. Sleep, diet, exercise, supplements, medications, personal connection...all of these things fall under the umbrella of managing our condition. It's a learning process.
I am trying to get my life together, talking with a woman at the moment, and see what happens.
Excellent. Do address communication styles early in the relationship. Do address your individual "love languages". Sometimes we struggle with articulation of "meaning" with verbal and written language...such a low bandwidth and quite limiting. I struggle with it daily.
I don't know if we age quicker, at 39 I feel a lot older, from years of stress, anxiety and OCD.
In some ways...physically, I might agree...especially if there are long-term/chronic health issues developing associated with oxidative damage, chronic stress hormone release, so on and so forth. On the other hand, I think there can be some social, emotional, communication, and professional development delays because of our condition.
 
My greatest issue is social anxiety. I can't take much. For me, it is crippling. And yes, too much of it can induce enough anxiety to make me sick. However, if I am left alone, I'm fine. I guess that is fine in my view, but if I'm alone, my view is all that counts. :)

Therefore, I cannot have a job that involves social interaction. That can be a huge problem, but I was lucky to find a job that did not require social interaction. Resulted in a very fulfilling career.

I can handle a few minutes at a time, like to buy groceries, supplies, etc. or even to consult with coworker, etc. But an hour is a killer.

Earlier jobs that required meeting and working with other people were all total disasters. Finally learned that and searched for a job where I could work alone. Then and ever since, I was totally fine.

Regardless of ASD or not or any life situation, It is important to find a job that fits you. If it stresses you out, makes you tired or anything like that, if you don't come home each day after work happy and smiling; it's not a good fit.
 
I guess some of my abilities look like superpowers to others. amazing ability to visualize. lucky to find positions where they left me alone after all all that matters for most companies is results, are they profitable. If what you are doing works they for the most part leave you alone. After all they have no idea how you are doing it. My only issue was no credit or opportunities for moving up the ranks. I know I can fix almost any process as long as I understand it and can visualize it. Showed this ability over and over. So easy for me.
 
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I am beginning to learn recently that there are some theories out there that suggest autism may be a way in which humanity is evolving. Yes, there are more people with autism being diagnosed...but there are more people being born with autism, as well. Maybe this is part of a bigger master plan. If we look at this from the perspective of humanity's "growing pains", it may be a way to explain this phenomenon we are living through right now. There is a stream of thought that suggests that all of this difficulty with integration of our sensory systems and dysregulation is a manifestation of our consciousness not being in proper synch with our bodies and this physical world. Perhaps this increased sensitivity is bringing us closer to something else much bigger and more profound. It's just that right now, living in this toxic, obnoxious, modern physical and psychological world...it can be nearly intolerable.

I think that right now, many of us get frustrated, confused, anxious, angry, and depressed...and results in an aura of negativity. There needs to be a paradigm change here...and I think that if we begin to look at ourselves as ambassadors and teachers of love and unity...our consciousness will be more content. I say this because we have a population of non-speaking, apraxic, brothers and sisters that appear to be savant-like telepathic and able to access streams of consciousness of unity and love...I believe they will be our teachers...the world hasn't caught onto this idea yet, but will soon.

If we tie this in with a new world...not that far into our future...of AGI superintelligences with 100-1000X higher IQs than humans and humanoid robotics essentially making the concept of "jobs" and "professions" essentially obsolete within society. What do we do with all this time? What will give life meaning? What would be the motivations for higher learning? What will that mean for families that are not separated due to "shift work"...will it lead to more closeness? It's difficult to imagine this world right now...I don't know what that world looks like. How will we adapt? Will it result in some degree of evolutionary change?

Will we be taught how to access our abilities for telepathic communication...the universal, high bandwidth, language of meaning...making verbal and written language (low bandwidth) for daily communication obsolete? Will it allow us to become an interstellar species...perhaps allowing us to communicate with other species?

I cannot predict our future, but what I can do is accept my situation as a matter of, perhaps, an evolutionary difference. From that perspective, I can be more optimistic about humanity...that we have a chance to be more than what we are...and have some hope.

As a person so deeply rooted in science...this materialistic paradigm...it has been a process of an "awakening" that there is something "additional" that I have been closed off to. There is some light...it's just not that bright yet...I have a lot to learn. I am optimistic that we all have a lot to learn and can accept ourselves as not only something "different", but perhaps something "more than".
 
Looks like lots of Autistics in my family suspect this has been the case for generations most common surname in my family does not show up on my family tree. Real puzzle. Now third surname popped up in third place. My current surname does not even register. That uncommon.
 
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Thanks all the Zeeman's here in Ontario are pretty much my cousins simple name not that popular Yes I'm tracing back the surnames notice pattern mid 1600 is where it traces back too. Yes that's when spain ran the show. I can read the names know the meaning some very funny. The did not like the spanish so many inside joke surnames. family lore is the name was given after an ancestor saved a the ruler at the times life when he was swimming. So royal proclamation only family could hold the name. Many surnames if translated into English are quite vulgar.
 
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One name of interest fourth most common in my family Roelse "means house of rule" where did this come from.
think it's inside joke of puzzle I'm working on. Why does a member of Roelse family have a huge data base on Myheritage, 38,000 connections connected with her apparently she is following the second most popular surname in my family. When I told her what I was doing, She called me a genius, disconnected contact not sure why. did I spook her, or getting close to the truth. Interestly her and I share DNA with all the families she is only a fourth cousin so of course I should be related to them all, why her. ALSo I found a huge data base on the second most popular surname my surname is not in it, however did notice my mother's family is, this surname is on my dads side.
 
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Yes whoever is wondering mid 1600 is when free masons formed under suspicious circumstances, Was my second most popular surname involved in some way.
 
Yes whoever is wondering mid 1600 is when free masons formed under suspicious circumstances, Was my second most popular surname involved in some way.
AI Overview



When the Freemasons began in the Middle Ages, their purpose was that of
a stonemasons' trade guild. As the craft evolved, so did the organization's purpose, shifting from managing a trade to focusing on moral and philosophical teachings.
Purpose as an operative stonemasons' guild
The earliest form of Freemasonry existed as lodges for highly skilled stonemasons who built Europe's castles and cathedrals. As guilds, their primary purpose was to regulate their trade:
  • Protection of trade secrets: They established secret symbols, handshakes, and passwords to identify qualified masons and protect their craft from imposters.
  • Welfare for members: Lodges served as support organizations, providing care for sick or injured members and looking after the widows and orphans of those killed on the job.
  • Training and standards: They provided vocational and social training for their members and maintained a labor pool of skilled craftsmen for employers.
The shift to "speculative" Freemasonry
As the demand for cathedral building declined, the lodges began accepting men who were not working stonemasons, known as "accepted" or "speculative" Masons. With the formation of the first Grand Lodge in London in 1717, the organization's purpose fully transformed into a fraternal society. This new focus was to:
  • Teach moral lessons: Modern Freemasonry uses the allegorical tools and language of medieval stonemasons to teach moral and ethical lessons. The ultimate goal is to make "good men better" by promoting self-improvement and high moral standards.
  • Promote brotherhood: The fraternity works to unite men of different backgrounds, religions, and opinions in "the firm and pleasing bond of fraternal love".
  • Practice charity: From its early days of caring for members, the organization evolved to engage in worldwide philanthropic work, supporting various causes and providing a social safety net for communities.
  • Embrace Enlightenment ideals: During the 17th and 18th centuries, Freemasonry promoted principles of the Enlightenment, such as freedom of speech and religion, individual liberty, and the importance of education.
 
Noticed in my mothers branch Mason family of Metzon my mother told my sister years ago this part of family is significant, combine this with family surname on dads side 2nd most significant name is connected to my mothers family most likely How The AB blood came into both families.The more I look the more interesting it gets.
 
Mankind will evolve into more superhuman consciousness, even though the current picture of "Now" doesn't look that way.
It is a slow process. Slow by the human time concept anyway.

I agree that Asperger's/Autistic people are different in how we perceive and understand the world and ways of interacting with it.
The majority of the planet is still more interested in the material things.
Money, power, control, the desires of the body physical.

Autistic minds see things differently. We are using the ways of knowing through intuition, telepathy and feel the unity of oneness. I think this is why we are so connected with nature and the animal kingdom.
That is an advancement. An evolution. We see and care for all things in a way that the NT world can't understand and doesn't see.
And this trend will continue. Slow, yes, in our time perception but not so slow when someone who has lived out a lifetime and can see how much has changed in one life span.

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I don't know if we age quicker, at 39 I feel a lot older, from years of stress, anxiety and OCD.
My father was 25 when I was born. I was 25 when my stepson was born. When my father was 75, we had a joint 75th, 50th, and 25th birthday celebration and posed together in a picture. I appear to be the oldest in the picture.
 

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