I like not having to "look good" all the time for a girlfriend/lover. I can be who I am instead of what will make her want sex.
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oregano
Judge
Some had similar sentiments in the 80s with the advent of AIDS. Despite overt and potentially lethal risks, it didn't keep most people from having sex- protected or not and attractive or not.
Laws restricting baser instincts fail more often than they succeed.
Laws restricting baser instincts fail more often than they succeed.
Alaric593
Hookup culture was created by men who've hoodwinked women as far as I can tell. It's terrible.
oregano
@Judge: I know that people will always have sex, but there seems to be a group of youths, mostly women, who are saying "no way" and becoming celibate. Men seem to be opting for the snipsnip rather than the zipped fly, Of course, if there are fewer women to have sex with, then men are out of luck.
Judge
As always, time will tell whether that is indicative of a societal change- or just another short-lived fad. Again, in consideration of baser instincts we aren't likely talking about many people to begin with.
oregano
The whole incel phenomenon seems to be rooted in just that-too many undesirable men competing for a limited number of women. I know that in some cultures a preference for boys has resulted in extreme imbalances, but I wonder if it's happening in the West too.
oregano
Then there's the "childfree" movement, which seems to lead women to celibacy, since tubal ligation is expensive and dangerous and they don't think men can be trusted.
Judge
Frankly I think in as much as such people get exposure through the Internet, that their numbers are not significant to really consider it a "phenomenon".
Forest Cat
There was a documentary on tv here, it focused on single men. 25% of men here do not have kids and the number is going up. And there has never been more single men here than now. They called it an epidemic. And the women are getting fewer kids than ever before. Something is going on.