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Featured Why does everyone think i’m a troll or not being serious?

Discussion in 'PDD-NOS, Social Anxiety and Others' started by Frostee, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Frostee

    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much every thread or forum I post in, I am usually after a while or instantly met with “you are a troll” or “this is a wind up merchant”?

    I’m sitting thinking “ok what did I do now?”.

    I genuinely don’t know what I do or have done? I am behaving in my own way, the genuine manner that I behave in.

    For ex, the below thread which I created for help was met with two responses accuses me of being a troll. One of which was deleted.

    https://www.pprune.org/private-flyi...ane-over-water-northern-ireland-scotland.html

    How is this trolling? I am asking for advice.
     
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    Misery Photo-Negative V.I.P Member

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    I dont see anyone calling it a troll thread though when I look at it? Or is it this guy saying "wind-up" there?
     
  3. Frostee

    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    Yes.. but someone else wrote “ignore the troll”
     
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    Fino Alex V.I.P Member

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    Is that the one that was deleted? I can't find it. It looks like you got a lot of helpful and kind responses.
     
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  5. Frostee

    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    Yes they where helpful but two called me a troll. And yes it was deleted.
     
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    Shamar Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    I suspect one of the best ways to identify a troll is when he calls you a troll. Ignore them.
     
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    I disagree ,I’ve been accused of trolling ,The truth is if people don’t care ( or have a negative experience of what you are talking about )about what he talks about ,they are not going to respond positively, if they have read posts from him in the past and responded negatively they will react the way humans do ,in a selfish way .I don’t know what he said to these people as I presume he is not perfect and I know I am not perfect, trying to talk about what other people are interested in is what I try to do , as I am autistic I don’t have the conversing in a mature socialised way down parrot fashion , so I dread conversing for a large amount of the time .
     
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    Suzanne Well-Known Member

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    You are like me. It doesn't matter how many good things happen, if one or two bad things happen, concentrate on that instead.

    I say that if there were 40 people in a room and 39 were really friendly to me, but the 1 that makes up 40 hated me ie showed by subtle actions, there might as well be that one person in the room. It is a horrible feeling and worse, because I know it is so negative.

    I too, scrolled down, to see the negative posts and in truth, only saw extremely helpful replies.
     
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    Yes, I have seen posts in which a couple of people were accusing you of being a troll. But remember, that was just two people, who don't speak for everyone.

    You do focus on the negative a lot, and have a tendency to reject or even react against people's views or advice, but that certainly doesn't make you a troll. People often don't like it when their advice/opinion is rejected or criticised and react against it, hence the troll accusation.
     
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    NothingToSeeHere Asexuowl V.I.P Member

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    Impossible to tell why some people may have read that post as a "wind up" or "troll" without knowing the culture of the forum. Asking the internet for advice on a potentially dangerous endeavour which must require a lot of training and detailed knowledge seems a little silly, maybe that's why?
     
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    Perhaps you are too critical to others.
     
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  12. AnnMoss

    AnnMoss Awkward Moss

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    I think when some of us have experienced significant bullying it is difficult, if not impossible, to turn off that internal warning system that picks up on perhaps just a few cues and puts us into "I am in danger" mode. In "I am in danger" mode most rational input doesn't matter. Like if your smoke detector starts going off because steam came out of the bathroom after a shower and then you have to try to wildly wave a towel under it to try to get it to stop. The alarm had a stimulus, the program is designed to not discriminate between shower steam and direct scorching flame, it goes off just as loud either way. So people who have been programmed by their experiences to sound the alarm can't discriminate between something not actually threatening and something truly dangerous. They're programmed to warm at any sign of danger. I hope the analogies made sense.

    So I think this is more a matter of trauma that may be exacerbated by autism spectrum characteristics than autism alone. I highly recommend looking into that aspect.
     
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    There's that saying that can go beyond a mere cliché: "Perception is reality".

    There are patterns of posting that can sometimes lead people to suspect trolling, whether real or implied:

    * Those who continually solicit for help and tend to reject most or all helpful suggestions of others
    * Those who continuously post only about themselves and their own problems and no others
    * Negativity can be contagious every bit as can being positive

    Consider attempting to break out of such patterns of posting. Try to help others as they have attempted to help you. We all have unique circumstances and experiences of our lives to share.

    Perhaps most of all, learn to accept that the world does not revolve around you alone. That is the perception of a child- not an adult who must inevitably deal with harsh realities that may often be beyond their control.
     
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    I'm really not up to speed on trolling and never heard of wind up. But I have a question about "those who continually post only about themselves and their own problems and no others." I don't get that. Are you saying that in like starting a topic? Because all my topics are going to somehow involve me, my opinion or my experiences or what I've learned, etc. How can it not be about themselves? Yes, we can use the term we - but we really can only speak for ourselves and not others.
    I think this is one of the reasons we are seen as selfish - but I can not figure out how or what else to talk about if it's not something concerning me. Does my question make sense?
     
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    We all post about ourselves to some degree. Yet in other posts, you manage to reach out to others in various ways. Where perception often counts. That you attempt to relate and share to others. And that you are keenly aware that you revolve around the world rather than the reciprocal.

    A "vibe" and perception I simply don't get from the OP in comparison. Though in all fairness, I doubt that a real Internet Troll would have posted this thread. It's a question of social dynamics that clearly not everyone is necessarily aware of, whether as a matter of choice or neurological considerations.

    The difference between those who can give and take, and those who only seem to take and take again.

    The good news? The OP is still attempting to "work the problem".
     
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    Good advice from others here. To me you come across as feeling disempowered and unaware of your own effect on others you post about. This can change in time, my advice would be to try to work on yourself as what seems to happen is that you project onto others and don't own your own stuff. Always hard to do, but once you start tackling it, it matters less how others are.
     
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    Xerces Blue Evil Overload

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    Looks to me like someone got all butt-hurt because you asked for a second opinion(Like a sensible adult).
    In this case I would say ignore anyone who doesn't welcome a second opinion. They should have the confidence to welcome a second opinion(Validating them if agreed with) or the sense to ask why people don't agree with them in order to correct mistakes.
    Seeing as how you're asking advice about something that has the potential to cause deaths.
     
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    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    Well, i’ve since had more rude digs on that thread. Asking me what type of plane we have (how nosy!?) and not believing me. Now, telling me that I shouldn’t ask for flying advice and that I should leave that to my father!

    Some of these people are so pompous and aloof!? What is it with people in the aviation industry and thinking they are something special!? o_O
     
  19. Frostee

    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    I did. A lot of the posts were littered with hidden digs, others on down the thread left open digs such as “what plane is this” and “you shouldn’t ask for advice for your father”. Actually, no I was querying out of interest for myself.

    I’m allowed to query anything. I don’t owe these pompous individuals an explanation or justification of anything.
     
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  20. Frostee

    Frostee Well-Known Member

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    There must be something about me though as I am often accused of this.

    It’s just a rotten dig or insult to have to have thrown at you. It always hurts me. People tend to believe it, and so it then details the authenticity of your thread.