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When to know if God has given you grace, or blessed you with your condition(s).

Rachie

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I was going to try and research this topic, but seeing as I had so much to do with that of late for my PIP I deserve to take a break and I want to get this post out sooner rather than later. I feel also a personal response may be more fitting. Perhaps others may add some research as well.

The subject of healing is closely connected to Christianity for many people. I think it can put some people of from deepening their faith as some people are not looking to be healed or feel they need it so may not even attend church etc. Unfortunately, for some Christians they will not see other believers who have health conditions or disabilities as not being saved until they are healed. Some people will be so persistent that they can even be chasing them for their healing for decades.
I think that this BBC article on disability, faith and healing is interesting.
Stop trying to 'heal' me

What I do like about Catholics is that they can be more accepting of disability and serving God within a disabled body. Let me quote from my book God’s Wildflowers “The Church does not despise the body, after all the Church recognises the goodness of creation and she professes belief in the resurrection of the body.

There are many servants of God written about in the above book who God has clearly blessed and given his grace to them to serve them through their conditions. Most did not get full healing in their life time. Some were amputees as well.

It is not known for certain what condition Paul had, but he begged God three times to remove his condition. Jesus said to him that his grace was sufficient for him and he served God through and despite his condition. Through his weaknesses God's grace would be shown.

Me, I have co conditions other than autism. At 17 I attended Church and God blessed me with enough grace to sustain me for life. I also had issues around eating at the same time, but still I served God as well. God knew me when he blessed me my autism pretty much. I went onto to give the most cleanest and pure of visions at the church I served at that time. Showers of blessings over a couples heads who were looking for childbirth. It doesn’t get more cleaner than that. I didn’t understand it, but the leader did interpret it and said God will bless them with a child. This is just one example. They were all so pure of heart despite my limitations with my eating disorder. I haven’t used it really post 17 in a Church. I don't want to unpack that further here. I have shared my story on this forum and it is probably on page 2 or 3 now if want to read more about that.

God knew of my issues. It doesn’t mean I could not make progress on them in life. However, the question I have is like how do you know when God has given you grace for a condition to stop beating yourself up over it if you do not become fully healed. Of course my autism I see as a blessing. The other co conditions, not so much but something I live with.

It is like so you can self torture yourself, but perhaps God has already given you grace for your condition and you don’t need to and just serve God through your condition. We all have different paths and some it could hurt telling them to stop praying for their healing. Some people though might do well to consider living with their grace or blessing.

I had a meeting on Monday that my rector initiated with my eating disorders team. Basically the decision was reached some time ago not to offer me more blood tests and further specialist support at this point in my life. I cannot like fight against the world. It came from the meeting that the would be working on quality of life as well from now on in the church and it was serenity for me like God had given me grace for my condition and we was all on the same page. Although, a bit after I felt a bit hopeless thinking this it etc. I will get commentaries by other people about me being healed for sure though. When you are born with a condition it can clearer cut that you have grace for it, but you develop one in life it can become more unclear. You can have grace for conditions that develop through life.

Take away points
God may have given you grace and blessed you in spite of your conditions which you can use to serve God. You though may not be aware of it though. May be try and think about that if this is something you wrestle with. It will not apply to everyone and they may still need a path of healing, but some this may speak to as well.

I can still continue to do this things that I love to do, which is serving God in anyway I can. I was very unwell for a couple of years and was wondering what was going on the day before. I said to myself though the next day that God came to defend me like Deborah of old and was right there with me in the midst of it all and broke into tears after unsettled nights and felt so much restored after. The unchangeable God who I have worshipped in my life and won't stop.
 
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Hi.
I believe the bible promises healing. And God wants to heal us.
The bible verses that speak that God wants to heal, should be to encourage us, and have hope, not to torture :(

'In the name of Jesus they will cast out devils, they will pray for the sick and they will heal'
'Is someone sick amongst you, call the elders, and pray for the person, and the prayer of faith will heal".
"Don't forget any of his benefits, he forgives all you trespasses, heal all you sicknesses, lift you from the pit'
"With his stripes we are healed"
"I am your healer"

But if you are sick, or have other condition, God does not see you any less because of that. He is going to support you more.
 
About the title question, i guess you could ask the Holy spirit the question, "You want me to pursue my healing?"
 
I believe that ASD1 is the healed form of autism, but we do not need to embrace severe co-morbid conditions, physical nor spiritual.

One can be a healthy & Godly geek/nerd.
 
This is where I encounter issues with religion. The idea that if you are faithful and pray that God will heal you. But if he doesn't heal you then it is "God only gives you what you can handle". To me it seems like a back peddle argument. If you get healed it's because of God, if you don't get healed it's because of god.

But that's a me issue and not meant to be a slight against anyone's faith. I actually was raised Catholic but for me at least I would be apostate at this point. I consider myself agnostic. Open to the idea of something after this life, but firmly of the viewpoint that nobody as of yet has any actual evidence. And I know there are claims of evidence to support religion but in my views none of those claims have yet to hold up to scrutiny.

Now that being said I am in support of religion/faith when it comes to folks being in good health and there are positive benefits that aid in healing and recovery. Faith helps ease and comfort the mind, and when a person is at ease they do heal faster as they aren't under stress mentally and there are clear links between metal stress and physical health. So kudos to the faithful as they do have an edge up health wise.
 
About the Apostle Paul having an affliction: He was struck blind on the road to Damascus when he converted to Christianity and was blind for three days before his sight was restored. Some people have proposed that Paul had epilepsy that caused his temporary blindness. I don't think that's necessarily the answer because people with epilepsy were believed to be possessed with demons and weren't revered as spiritual leaders. So, I really don't know.
 
This is where I encounter issues with religion. The idea that if you are faithful and pray that God will heal you. But if he doesn't heal you then it is "God only gives you what you can handle". To me it seems like a back peddle argument. If you get healed it's because of God, if you don't get healed it's because of god.

But that's a me issue and not meant to be a slight against anyone's faith. I actually was raised Catholic but for me at least I would be apostate at this point. I consider myself agnostic. Open to the idea of something after this life, but firmly of the viewpoint that nobody as of yet has any actual evidence. And I know there are claims of evidence to support religion but in my views none of those claims have yet to hold up to scrutiny.

Now that being said I am in support of religion/faith when it comes to folks being in good health and there are positive benefits that aid in healing and recovery. Faith helps ease and comfort the mind, and when a person is at ease they do heal faster as they aren't under stress mentally and there are clear links between metal stress and physical health. So kudos to the faithful as they do have an edge up health wise.

Christian get called crazy all the time, but it's not so crazy, God existing has evidence in the universe, like how things in nature work, that everything seems to be in an order, then we can have His Spirit in us like the bible says, and even communion with God, after knowing that God exists, is a small step to believe he can heal.
 
Christian get called crazy all the time, but it's not so crazy, God existing has evidence in the universe, like how things in nature work, that everything seems to be in an order, then we can have His Spirit in us like the bible says, and even communion with God, after knowing that God exists, is a small step to believe he can heal.
I don't think it fair to call them crazy. As I don't think they are for their beliefs. We just differ in our beliefs.

"God existing has evidence in the universe, like how things in nature work, that everything seems to be in an order," that is no proof at all. That is belief not proof. I could say that God is a big black lesbian in the sky that rides a blue and purple panda that created everything with a wave a wand. If I genuinely believed that proove to me it's wrong? You can't. So that is a belief not a proof. Just as you saying the order of the universe is proof is not actually a proof but rather a belief. And I am not trying to be argumentative, more trying to explain my own viewpoint. Because I do acknowledge that my belief in science could be considered a faith unto itself.
 
Thank you for all your thoughts. They are too many to respond to individually but I read every single one and paused and thought and thank you all. God truly knows the answer even though I had that meeting God hasn't spoken as such. I just took it to mean it like that and even said to God is this it for me and what is my place as after that I felt like it is concluded as such.
Thank you. I have had a bit of a day and had chores to see off, so it took some time to get back on today.
Dr Bad Strings you spoke a lot of good common sense.
I think with Paul he does have a weakness/gift other than the blinding he experienced. I never got the idea that it was a serious/severe condition though he dealt with.
2 Corinthians 12:7-9
" Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me."
 
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Thank you for all your thoughts. They are too many to respond to individually but I read every single one and paused and thought and thank you all. God truly knows the answer even though I had that meeting God hasn't spoken as such. I just took it to mean it like that and even said to God is this it for me and what is my place as after that I felt like it is concluded as such.
Thank you. I have had a bit of a day and had chores to see off, so it took some time to get back on today.
Dr Bad Strings you spoke a lot of good common sense.
I think with Paul he does have a weakness/gift other than the blinding he experienced. I never got the idea that it was a serious/severe condition though he dealt with.
2 Corinthians 12:7-9
" Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me."
What I think I have mentioned before @Rachie elsewhere and I'll say it here again, I do honestly believe there are many many good teachings in the Bible, and in other major religious texts, and the world would be a better place if more people acted like Jesus. I just don't agree with the after death part of it all. But it is a fascinating topic and I'm glad you put up with my heathen antics.
 
I wanted to post and write this and I have it written for my PIP in word. Please note that this is my history. I do have gastrointensial issues which is quite severe, but never mentioned it as it is not diagnosed and something I just live with. Some conditions have improved over the course of time like with my last heart scan result. That can be affected also by an infusion I take every year for my circulation. God has surely healed some of my pain for truly and some I felt directly after leaving church. There are some I have never even asked to heal me from and if I wanted it, I have no doubt that God can do anything. My situation with my eating disorder is so complicated.

Severe and Enduring now end stage Anorexia Nervosa 1988
Autism it’s been lifelong but diagnosed October 2022
Very Severe Reynaud’s Syndrome 17th December 2018
Dust mite allergy 5th August 2021
I have a phobia to dust, when I am stressed it can become very crippling. May be it stems from my dust allergy as well. I can be in an appointment and see dust in my eyesight and cannot stop myself picking it up.
I have severe insomnia it is not responsive to even medication and it can worsen my mental conditions.
Chronic Kidney Disease with Acute Kidney Injury Under Nephrology Ongoing since 2012 but diagnosed 23rd July 2019
Osteoporosis last T scores range age matched Age 72 to 78 on T scores on my spine. Osteoporosis in hip also 18th September 2024 ongoing since 2015
Osteoarthritis since 2000.
Dystonia, moving toe syndrome (neurology) August 2021
Frequent back Spasms and Contraptions July 2023 to be investigated next neurology appointment on 30th October 2024. Previous bulges and nodes found on scan
History of LV dysfunction cardiac 4th July 2015
Hypoklemia by bloods
Hypoglemcia by assessnent
Unstable biochemistry by bloods
Chronic Anaemia by bloods
Hospital acquired Pneumonia 2023
Podiatry 2016 corns hard skin treatment can be very painful
Delirium last episode Queens Hospital 2023 of Delirium onset 2001 St Thomas Hospital. Delirium impacts on cognitive function and brings on cognitive decline.
Fugee states
Some I removed as I felt they were too personal to share. The majority of these issues that have happened to me as a result of the complications of my eating disorder. Autism may have contributed to some as well, the ed though is main culprit I think. The rest of my family are really quite healthy. My dad has diabetes and age related mobility issues. Nothing like the above.
 
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I want to go free of my burdens, I've had enough. So when G-d is permitting, I'd appreciate this. I don't always understand why this happened, but he has done miracles that I could never achieve.
Be it to return another in faith to him, or to serve him through community service as attonement for sins in my lifetime, I am always his student.
I know it's evil to believe some may never believe or acknowledge trumpet so we can now stop preaching and I can find peace I want, but he once had mercy and so without him my life was worthless.

I do wish to return to Eden, and burdens be released. No more wicked, cruel and merciless people in my life!!!
 
I know that my Lilith influence is wicked, but I am human and it's not that children are not special but because man too can be evil. Many men don't change laws but lie to gain divorce, leave a woman scorned and some societies have no mercy on her.
A woman's job can be so difficult because often we are required to have double patience and under silence we try to bring love to house, this is no easy task and unlikely we gain freedom of men to so easily have way to escape to higher ground.
So I do admit that I wrestle still with my Lilith architype.
 
Regarding my ex medical history of ashma, and bananas in house. I'm looking at specific drug causes ashma or ADHD and checking which crops utilised on. Then avoiding these trigger foods.

Hopeful this helps
 
Every time we move I loose my veggie patch, I live on spinach and get paranoid when I buy this. I'm now compulsive over washing veggies, trying not to eat grains. Shopping is a nightmare and takes long time to read labels but it's getting easier now that I know what to buy.
 
Sorry, dust allergy may be related to ashma. Look it up
Sleepy tablets are bad, search on my previous remedy.
Always thank Yesu (Jesus) for food and blessings so that he may bless you some more
 
Amen ( I agree)
Jah (blessed name given by Israelites and black slaves)
Hallelujah (to give thanks)
 

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