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to be or to have - that it the question

Discussion in 'Friends, Family & Social Skills' started by Alexej, Feb 5, 2020.

  1. Alexej

    Alexej Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    I am wondering how people describe themselves.

    Do we have Aspergers? or
    Are we Aspergers?

    For me the diffference is in the implication.
    - To have Aspergers sounds like it is something from which you can get cured/healed
    - To be Aspergers (to have it as a trait) suggests that it something that you have had all your life, it is just something you live with.


    How do other people do this and why?
     
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  2. Rasputin

    Rasputin ASD / Aspie V.I.P Member

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    I think "to be" is more accurate. It is part of who you are.
     
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    WoodWorkingJoel Well-Known Member

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    "are we aspergers" immediately my brain went to "we are the borg"
    [​IMG]
     
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  4. the_tortoise

    the_tortoise Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    I use “I am autistic” and “I have autism” interchangeably.

    I know that each choice can be infused with different connotations but when I say them they are (on my side of the interaction - like as far as my intended meaning) stripped of those connotations and mean exactly the same thing.

    (I would not say “I have/am Aspergers” because I was not diagnosed with Aspergers, I was diagnosed with Autistic Disorder.... I almost never say “I have Autistic Disorder” because it’s awkward and long and there is generally no reason to when I can just say I have autism or that I am autistic....I would never say “I am Autistic Disorder” because it doesn’t make sense.)
     
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  5. Bolletje

    Bolletje Overly complicated potato V.I.P Member

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    I am an Aspie and I have Aspergers. It’s interchangeable for me. My Aspergers is a trait, just like my brown hair. I am a brunette and I have brown hair.
     
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  6. Judge

    Judge Well-Known Member

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    What counts is that this is a neurological condition that we are born with. That how it manifests itself in terms of traits and behaviors varies with time and amplitude. A condition that develops in a highly individualized and non-linear fashion.

    Beyond that, what to call it is just a matter of what medical protocols were employed to diagnose you. Where the ICD-10 likely refers to it as "Aspergers Syndrome" while the DSM-5 (as of 5-13) refers to it as "Autism Spectrum Disorder". With the proposed ICD-11 evolving to something closer to that of the DSM-5.
     
  7. Wolf Prince

    Wolf Prince My future job title.

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    White fur. Thinking of dying it blue.:p
     
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    I agree with what you are saying. I think for those of us on the spectrum we see either being or meaning the same thing. Like @Bolletje put it, I am and I have. But to others that don't understand what autism/aspergers is, it could possibly imply differently. I have sounds like a disease where I am sounds like a description. I use both because I don't think about it. If I did think about it I'd probably say I am autistic.
    I find that same line of questioning about church. I am part of the church (it's not the place), but how do I explain to someone where I am going on Sunday morning if I don't say I'm going to church? That's my conundrum.
     
  9. Alexej

    Alexej Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    A blue wolf - what an image!
     
  10. Alexej

    Alexej Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    Good point - and very well made!
     
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    Gracey Well-Known Member

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    ASD isn't all you are.
    'To be Aspergers' may imply a limit?

    Each one of us is so much more than a single label or description.
     
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  12. Major Tom

    Major Tom Searching for ground control... V.I.P Member

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    I just say that "I am on the autistic spectrum". Very rarely, because people don't usually understand what that means anyways.
     
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    Since technically it isn't called Asperger's anymore, I say I am on the autiistic spectrum.
    Used to say I have Asperger's syndrome since that is what they called it when I was diagnosed.
    But, I usually don't say either except to doctors and here on the forum.
     
  14. Wolf Prince

    Wolf Prince My future job title.

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    Never heard of a blue moon? Need to be the right color to howl at it.