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To ABA or not?

Discussion in 'Parenting & Autism Discussions' started by Lissa, Jan 28, 2020.

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  1. Lissa

    Lissa New Member

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    My high functioning daughter with autism has been "doing" aba for exaclty one year. I am not seeing its benefits. As an educator myself I look closely, and it's been nothing that we couldn't have helped her with. She only tantrums now when they are forcing her to do something she is just not ready for or is too tired for. (Full school day, some form of therapy 2 hours a day, every single day.) She is 5. They never ask her why she does anything.
    Do any of you have HFA or parents of HFA kids have a negative or positive experience with ABA? I read how it causes PTSD in 80% of ASD patients when they become adults. Speech is great for her... Just not sure about the ABA.

    Comments are appreciated. Parenting is confusing.
     
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    Judge Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    Welcome to Autism Forums!

    Given your question, it might be more beneficial for you just to type "ABA" in our search engine's text box.

    Lots of responses will come up in many threads. A subject that strikes many of us as a "hot topic". :eek:
     
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    Alexej Well-Known Member

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    Indeed Welcome to the Forum. Glad you have found us.

    Root around and read the current or older threads.
     
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    We as a whole hate ABA. It's torturous mind control that very few people look back on as adults with fond memories.
     
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    It sure is! I never had this dilemma because my high-functioning autistic daughter was not diagnosed until late teens or early 20s. She coped with life's challenges by internalizing, lots of avoidance, mental self abuse, wanting to stay home sick from school (which I didn't allow), digestive upset, resulting in her being a wreck of panic disorder, social anxiety, and constant depression in adulthood.

    I'm going out on a limb to say, perhaps you could suggest taking a 3 to 6 month break from ABA and see where that leaves things?

    The same money and energy you as a family are putting into ABA, might better be spent on family outings, community involvement (she's a little young for Brownies, but soon? Maybe Sunday school or play dates?), and just creating a loving atmosphere at home.

    I especially recommend that autistic children be encouraged to pursue a special interest, talent, or activity that they love. It could be music, programming computers, horseback riding, drawing... this gives them an area of life where they can excel and have pride in their efforts, which is probably the best gift you could give a kid.
     
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    I have a child on the opposite end of the spectrum and from what I've read and heard it is torturous and rarely helps. I wouldn't put my child through it. I sure would love to get him some speech therapy though. He's 7 and still does not speak.
    As others have said, check for past threads by searching the forums for "ABA". Good luck and I hope whatever you decide is the best for you and your child.
     
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    From the way you described it, I'm pretty sure you already know what you are going to do, and you're just looking for affirmation.

    I grew up without knowing I was on the spectrum until age 40. When I told my parents, they responded with interest, concern about what it means to apply a "label", but with the general consensus that it didn't change who I was. I have always felt loved and accepted by my parents for who I am, before and now. I think that is what your daughter will need the most as well. Forcing her to go to therapy she gets upset about is only going to reinforce that you think she is broken and needs to be fixed.
     
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    I did speech therapy for being nonverbal in 2nd grade, and i'm now almost 40, and you still can't shut me up! Some of my happiest memories are of speech therapy :)
     
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    I did speech therapy too at around that age, though for stammering not non-verbal, and I loved it, fond memories!
     
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    Welcome Lissa!
    Definitely have a look through previous discussion on ABA via 'search', but be prepared for a lot of negativity and very strong opinions. None of what it said is a judgement on you :)
    Seems like a good idea.
     
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    There's an article on WikiHow entitled "How to tell if ABA is harmful" that you should probably check out. Personally, I die a little inside every I hear someone has put their kid in ABA and I think the people who claimed it helped them or their kids were brainwashed.
     
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    I AM NOT AN EXPERT, but it seems to me that ABA is based on the hypothesis that autism is a learned or developed behavior, and can be unlearned. What it boils down to is a form of forced behavior modification. No wonder there are many reports of PTSD associated with the treatment. My opinion is that autism is a genetic variation present before birth, and as such, attempts to change it go against the natural neurology of the person being treated. The best treatment is to teach a person with autism how best to live with it.
     
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    I wonder if it is based off of research from Mkultra?