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Should I be friends again with my (ASD) ex

Confused_NT_girl

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My ex and I broke up a few days ago. We dated for a year and a few months. A bit of a background: he is not diagnosed, and doesn't understand why he is "different".

Sorry this is long but tldr: Ex broke up with me but wants to stay friends. Maybe we'll date again, maybe we won't. Maybe we'll stay platonic. He wants to keep hanging out and go on trips, but no expectations, and no pressure.

This all started when he left for a month-long trip with his buddy a month and a week ago, and before he left he said "think about if you really want to be with me given my inability to be affectionate, commitment issues, I freak out when you touch me.." etc -- (none of those specific ones I made an issue about except for a few occasions when I thought it was ok to hug him, and that I asked if he has always been this way with other people). During this trip, there was a bit of tension between us because of that statement before he left. He was also working remotely and had very stressful deadlines which made him distant in the last two weeks of the trip. He came back on a weekend, then had a critical presentation at work on Monday, and right after that it was like a flip of a switch because he seemed normal again. Like nothing happened.

So I asked to talk about some boundaries that I set as a response to him asking me if I really want to be with him.. somehow this turned to him asking me to think about whether I really want to be with him or not, to, we should just be friends because he doesn't want me potentially blaming him for wasting my time due to his commitment issues (he said he's never felt those romantic feelings that should enable him to be affectionate, be romantic or basically commit, though he wants to settle down....with anyone he's dated). This was discussed in a few calls, in person hang outs in the last week, and what's confusing was when we hung out he seemed the usual him. He called me pet names, he would playfully touch me.. but as soon as I bring up our "discussion" his tone changes and he's adamant that we stop sleepovers or any other activities I consider intimate so "it doesn't confuse me". After a few intense calls/texts he made it clear that there are only two options -- we don't talk for a while and then later on maybe we can see if things will work out again, OR we stay as friends and maybe we'll date again, or maybe we won't. Maybe it'll stay platonic. But absolutely no expectations including no expectations that he won't date other people.

It seems to me that by confronting him, I pushed him away. There had been two occasions when a similar discussion of "let's just be friends" happened in the past, but because I swept it under the rug as further discussions stress him out, we went back to normal and our relationship progressed. This one blindsided me because we had grown really close before his trip (spending much more time together, and gradual integration of our domestic activities as we "cohabitate" on weekends). I'm just really hurt by it, and I miss him a lot. He also doesn't seem to remember past events, like, we've been in this situation before only less intense.

He said I shouldn't take this personally because this is a problem he's had for a lllloooonggg time which is why he's still single (he's late 40s, I'm late 30s). Before he left for his trip he said I'm a huge part of his life, and that he cares about me a lot, and a year ago it was more like, "I have commitment issues, but I want to try". Now I can't help but feel like a placeholder, waiting til he dates someone else and if it doesn't work out, maybe we can still work.

I know the best way to go about this is to give myself some space and not speak to him for a while, but then, I'm afraid that if I let it go, I'll lose that small chance of us working on getting back to where we were again. He still wants to keep hanging out and go on trips together (we've traveled a lot).

If I give myself some space and not talk to him for a while, will he forget about me? Should I maintain contact? Or should I just carry on thinking he's just using me as a placeholder?
 
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I wouldn't say your reaction should be any different whether he has ASD or not. It would just be a case of deciding what you want moving forward and being clear with him. You seem to know how you think you should deal with it here.
I know the best way to go about this is to give myself some space and not speak to him for a while
 
I wouldn't say your reaction should be any different whether he has ASD or not. It would just be a case of deciding what you want moving forward and being clear with him. You seem to know how you think you should deal with it here.

Thank you. Part of me says maybe he felt overwhelmed by me confronting him and that pushed him away so if I maintain contact maybe there's hope that we can work on it.. Idk..
 
Thank you. Part of me says maybe he felt overwhelmed by me confronting him and that pushed him away so if I maintain contact maybe there's hope that we can work on it.. Idk..
Your allowed to communicate how you feel, if doing that pushed him away then maybe its just not right?
 
If he's not diagnosed has he ever said he's self diagnosed ?neurodivergent people aren't just autistic ,if he's self diagnosed learn about autism in men
 
I don't know what you should do, but if someone broke up with me and then told me they wanted to hang out with me, I would say no thanks. Breaking up someone is a pretty clear signal you don't want to be with that person. If they wanted to hang out with me and go on trips and be such good friends, why break up. It just seems like a difficult person. I do understand that people can be friends after a breakup, I just don't like the sound of what he is saying. But that's me.

He's feeling pressured about me expecting lifelong commitment (marriage), and how he can't give me (typical) affection (he does tho, just in a different way)..and that he's never really had the lovey dovey feelings for people he's dated (alexithymia?) but that he cares about me a lot, and he really enjoys my company and wants to keep seeing me
 
If he's not diagnosed has he ever said he's self diagnosed ?neurodivergent people aren't just autistic ,if he's self diagnosed learn about autism in men

He's not self diagnosed either, I don't think he knows.. he doesn't understand why he's different. But.. special interests, stimming, withdrawing when overwhelmed, some meltdowns, touch aversion, feels the need to list EVERYTHING down, smart, pretends to laugh at some jokes then asks me what it means, does not read my sarcasm/jokes, i have to be literal/direct with him to understand, sleep issues because of anxiety, being set in his ways and gets frustrated when those are changed...etc. I think it's pretty safe to say he is on the spectrum?

I do think it would be helpful if he knows but he doesn't.. so he doesn't understand why he's unable to distinguish feelings...
 
He's not self diagnosed either, I don't think he knows.. he doesn't understand why he's different. But.. special interests, stimming, withdrawing when overwhelmed, some meltdowns, touch aversion, feels the need to list EVERYTHING down, smart, pretends to laugh at some jokes then asks me what it means, does not read my sarcasm/jokes, i have to be literal/direct with him to understand, sleep issues because of anxiety, being set in his ways and gets frustrated when those are changed...etc. I think it's pretty safe to say he is on the spectrum?

I do think it would be helpful if he knows but he doesn't.. so he doesn't understand why he's unable to distinguish feelings...
He could be an unsocialised neurotypical it has happened!
 
He could be an unsocialised neurotypical it has happened!

I mean, that could still be a possibility,...

But when he's getting frustrated about things like being specific about bin liners, how to wash his clothes, how to hang his clothes, how we have to list everything we're doing when we're going on trips, all the ratings, reviews, extensively document trip details, including historical information of places we're going to, picky eater, sensitivity to light, cannot context switch/multitask..these are not related to lack of social awareness..
 
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He is confusing you. He wants you there when he wants you there. Don't let anyone confuse you. Many of us are NOT confusing. We are actually quite clear.

Personally, I would walk away...... know someone will cherish you and love you and want the same things you want. Don't get trapped into some idiotic multi-years long "friendship" that goes nowhere. There are real relationships filled with love and joy and not confusion.

RUN FROM CONFUSION and never look back :)
 
If I give myself some space and not talk to him for a while, will he forget about me? Should I maintain contact? Or should I just carry on thinking he's just using me as a placeholder?

Regardless of whether or not he has ASD, it seems he clearly has emotional problems and needs a good therapist to work thorugh his issues. If I were in your situation, I'd want him to see a therapist first.
 
When people show you what they are, believe them. Running hot and cold about what he wants for a relationship, keeping you off balance when you try to discuss expectations, and I see him as a user, somebody who expects you to be there only when he feels you are useful. If you stay with this relationship things will not change when you are the one making the accommodations. I agree with @Matthias that continuing with that person should be contingent upon his obtaining therapy both individually and as a couple
 
Guess l can only echo what is said already. If you are okay with no serious commitment then there is your answer. I discovered l really like someone but their comfort zone is no serious heavy relationship headaches. So l have pushed away when l start getting to emotionally deep which isn't healthy. I should state l need a break. Good luck.

Even NT guys have problems committing, it's not just a ND situation. I have met plenty of guys like this. I think ND are more honest that they don't feel like committing. But you should feel validated and important for the time you do see them.

Finally - you are discussing two different issues. One is the issue of is he on the spectrum, and do you need to sit down and discuss this? And the issue of where you two wish to go. A lot of couples aren't getting married, marriage rates have completely dropped which is probably good in general. Relationships are constantly changing. There are highs and lows and timeouts and then special times that take your breath away. I have met plenty of couples that stay as friends but see each other for years but don’t live together. This works for some and not for others. Maybe just sit down and talk heart to heart with zero pressure.

My boundary was not to spend the nite because then l didn't feel so sad the next day when l said goodbye. So it keeps the relationship lighter and l don't become clingy. I also don't call regularly because they really don't want it and it again creates emotional distance which is a good boundary for me. So perhaps you can create your boundaries that show you are honoring yourself and not being a doormat. Every relationship is unique within itself and the rules are kinda improv to make both partners feel respected and honored. And each of you should appreciate and respect each other's boundaries. If my guy clearly states hey - l can't do marriage or heavy commitment, (and he has said that) then l say please respect my boundary of not spending the nite or calling you regularly.
 
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Guess l can only echo what is said already. If you are okay with no serious commitment then there is your answer. I discovered l really like someone but their comfort zone is no serious heavy relationship headaches. So l have pushed away when l start getting to emotionally deep which isn't healthy. I should state l need a break. Good luck.

Even NT guys have problems committing, it's not just a ND situation. I have met plenty of guys like this. I think ND are more honest that they don't feel like committing. But you should feel validated and important for the time you do see them.

Finally - you are discussing two different issues. One is the issue of is he on the spectrum, and do you need to sit down and discuss this? And the issue of where you two wish to go. A lot of couples aren't getting married, marriage rates have completely dropped which is probably good in general. Relationships are constantly changing. There are highs and lows and timeouts and then special times that take your breath away. I have met plenty of couples that stay as friends but see each other for years but don’t live together. This works for some and not for others. Maybe just sit down and talk heart to heart with zero pressure.

My boundary was not to spend the nite because then l didn't feel so sad the next day when l said goodbye. So it keeps the relationship lighter and l don't become clingy. I also don't call regularly because they really don't want it and it again creates emotional distance which is a good boundary for me. So perhaps you can create your boundaries that show you are honoring yourself and not being a doormat. Every relationship is unique within itself and the rules are kinda improv to make both partners feel respected and honored. And each of you should appreciate and respect each other's boundaries. If my guy clearly states hey - l can't do marriage or heavy commitment, (and he has said that) then l say please respect my boundary of not spending the nite or calling you regularly.

So the marriage part is something we both want, and I have no doubt that that's what he wants as well. We've talked about it. The issue is that he said he's "not capable of feeling romantic" and has been an issue for decades according to him, which, I'm not sure if he's looking for feelings that would never exist (alexithymia?). We had hiccups just like other couples, but everything else was great -- we spent a LOT of time together, we traveled together, we even lived together temporarily for a month and a half. What's confusing to me is his approach to his issue. He said we're not going to be "productive" if we keep seeing each other the same way.... so his solution is for us to stay friends, keep hanging out and traveling (and his behavior towards me even after the breakup was the same)... but that now there won't be any expectations. No sleepovers, and if we travel, we will sleep on separate beds. No sexual interactions which he doesn't seem interested in anyway and has been a problem with people he's been with.....maybe eventually we'll date again, maybe we won't. Or maybe I take some time off and then see how things work when I reach out again. Those are the options he presented. The other issue which is not helping is he doesn't like to have heavy talks. He tries but he noticeably gets uncomfortable and anxious. I appreciate that he's being solution oriented but it seems like he's not factoring in the emotional aspects of interpersonal relations...

The sit down and talk about whether he's ASD or not has been at the back of my mind for a year now. I have gotten mixed responses where some people would say it's not my place to say it, and some people would say it's ok to address it... so I never did.
 
So the intimacy part of not being there is okay with you? I lived in a marriage that we didn't have intimacy, l guess it was okay with me.

Alot of men can't discuss these serious issues because maybe it triggers them or makes them feel inadequate somehow. So l tread very lightly when discussing things. Maybe ask why the subject triggers them. That's a great way to get conversation going. Try to be patient. Go to a neutral area, a beach, a pretty quiet scenic point and start with a compliment then gently broach the item de jour. Maybe he is afraid you don't want to be with him if there is no intimacy.
 
As others have said, it comes down to how much longer you want to chase after this guy and keep letting him play hot and cold mind games with you. Being “friends” with someone you still want to be in a relationship with is…well, you’re kidding yourself. And he’s made it clear that he wants to be friends so that he can string you along and maybe or maybe not be in a relationship with you again eventually. That’s very disrespectful behavior, and he should muster the integrity to break up with you for good so that you can move on.
 
So he cares about you, he enjoys your company and wants to keep on seeing you. Sounds like a friend not a lover.
If I were you (If I loved him) I would get the hell out because I would feel 100% sure that he would break my heart. And by staying friends with him after he has been that honest, well it's like giving him permission to break your heart.
It's your choice. I don't see a happy end for you though. Sorry sweety. Please feel hugged <3
 

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