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Second test very soon

Suzanne

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So nervous. Mind on overdrive.

Frightened that the verdict next month will show I am below normal intelligence. All stemming from authorities telling me as a child that I am backward and too stupid.

I swear I would never take an IQ test and find I have no choice.

Worried that they will leave out vital clues to me having aspergers.
 
I distrust IQ tests and please, if the test doesn't come back as you expect, take it with a grain of salt. Those tests are in some cases flawed and in my opinion do not always reflect the ways in which some people think or perceive things.
I think we can all agree on this forum that you're an intelligent woman. The IQ tests are not the best measure of that.
 
I distrust IQ tests and please, if the test doesn't come back as you expect, take it with a grain of salt. Those tests are in some cases flawed and in my opinion do not always reflect the ways in which some people think or perceive things.
I think we can all agree on this forum that you're an intelligent woman. The IQ tests are not the best measure of that.

Thanks for replying.

I have had my third test and she said that the first test came out that my results matched the typical aspie results.

24th December, next month, I see the therapist of specialises in autism and will under go some more tests and talk with my husband and then give me the verdict and sadly, have IQ test.

I am blessed, as it is unusually fast.
 
So nervous. Mind on overdrive.

Frightened that the verdict next month will show I am below normal intelligence. All stemming from authorities telling me as a child that I am backward and too stupid.

I swear I would never take an IQ test and find I have no choice.

Worried that they will leave out vital clues to me having aspergers.
You will always be part of us no matter what they say :) They gave me the dx, took it, gave it back, they have no clue. We know you are one of us. It does not matter what ONE person says. the best is to be testing by Aspies and you are certainly one of us and always will be. :)
 
I did a thread not too long ago about IQ tests. Mine showed I had an average IQ, and I'm fine with that, but the test was stupid. Lowered my score because I had never heard certain words that are not everyday words. So according to the test I had to take, I would have had to know the entire dictionary. The guy giving me the test didn't know there was paraffin (wax) in chocolate either. I guess they give the iq tests to more or less place you on the spectrum - a higher IQ will put you aspie and a lower iq will put you more severe autism.
 
So nervous. Mind on overdrive.

Frightened that the verdict next month will show I am below normal intelligence. All stemming from authorities telling me as a child that I am backward and too stupid.

I swear I would never take an IQ test and find I have no choice.

Worried that they will leave out vital clues to me having aspergers.

I don't think you have much to worry about in that regard. Plus factor in given how varied such results can be in terms of correlating an IQ test to someone's autism I don't even understand why they continue to bother.

We've had people come and go from here with IQ's in the 90s to 160s. All on the spectrum of autism. As others have pointed out, IQ tests reflect flaws and bias. It's a benchmark that isn't taken too seriously one way or another.

Actually it's been exciting to witness you get through this process to finally validate what you already have known for a long time. :)
 
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Don't worry about the IQ test Suzanne, it's an arbitrary figure anyway and as said above, it's a very flawed process. It is simply a part of the classification process. I think you need not worry about getting a "sub-normal" result. Your posts on here have demonstrated you are a bright and compassionate woman and we appreciate you here for those qualities.
As Judge said above, going through this with you from afar has been quite an education. Your openness about your doubts, fears and hopes has given me an insight into something I didn't experience because of my diagnosis in my youth. Whatever the result may be, please tell us and talk to us about it, even if what the therapist decides is not something you want to hear. I'll be keeping an eye on this forum over Christmas to hear your news :)
 
I believe that it is a good thing that you are seeing a therapist with experience with autism. Most medical people are clueless when it comes to autism. If I am not mistaken, you can still get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome on that side of the pond. Over here Asperger's is not diagnosed any more, just ASD. Good luck.
 
I believe that it is a good thing that you are seeing a therapist with experience with autism. Most medical people are clueless when it comes to autism. If I am not mistaken, you can still get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome on that side of the pond. Over here Asperger's is not diagnosed any more, just ASD. Good luck.

Typically now, if you fall into the ASD 1 category you'll receive one of three diagnoses, in the UK at least. I'm not sure if the same will apply in France where Suzanne is.

ASD (Asperger's Syndrome)
ASD (High Functioning)
or just
ASD

They haven't abandoned the old classifications but they are secondary to the ASD diagnosis itself.
 
I believe that it is a good thing that you are seeing a therapist with experience with autism. Most medical people are clueless when it comes to autism. If I am not mistaken, you can still get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome on that side of the pond. Over here Asperger's is not diagnosed any more, just ASD. Good luck.

Hard to predict. I mean, in a few months the ICD-11 will conform much to what the DSM-V has done. Though it's impossible to tell how many medical professionals may simply "go rogue" over such concerns. :confused:

What happened to Asperger's syndrome?
 
I guess they give the iq tests to more or less place you on the spectrum - a higher IQ will put you aspie

Depends on who you see, whether or not they do that.

IQ scores were not (or at least not supposed to be) a diagnostic criterion for any of the diagnoses except for Asperger's (can't have a score below about 70, strictly speaking).

People with PDD-NOS (Atypical Autism in the ICD-10) or Autistic Disorder (Childhood Autism in the ICD-10, sometimes called "classic autism") could have any IQ score, including very high ones.

Sometimes an IQ test is used to see if a person has a specific neuropsychological profile that could indicate a particular diagnoses (for example, NVLD might be indicated if a person has significant relative weaknesses in nonverbal reasoning/visual-spatial thinking), or to confirm the presence or absence of certain symptoms (like language difficulties, for example). And IQ tests can be used in trying to determine what kind of support needs a person might have.
 
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I've read many of your posts. I don't think you're at all below normal intelligence, not even a tiny bit. I find your posts logical, reflective, introspective, and well thought out. You know how intelligent you are, you certainly don't need someone to tell you. Take care and try not to worry.
 
You will always be part of us no matter what they say :) They gave me the dx, took it, gave it back, they have no clue. We know you are one of us. It does not matter what ONE person says. the best is to be testing by Aspies and you are certainly one of us and always will be. :)

You touch my heart so much, OkRad. Thank you so very much.
 
I did a thread not too long ago about IQ tests. Mine showed I had an average IQ, and I'm fine with that, but the test was stupid. Lowered my score because I had never heard certain words that are not everyday words. So according to the test I had to take, I would have had to know the entire dictionary. The guy giving me the test didn't know there was paraffin (wax) in chocolate either. I guess they give the iq tests to more or less place you on the spectrum - a higher IQ will put you aspie and a lower iq will put you more severe autism.

Yes, I remember now, your post!

I took a sort of "mock" free test online and came back average.

I consider it all a lot of bunkum; but when one has no choice; just have to go along with it.
 
Actually it's been exciting to witness you get through this process to finally validate what you already have known for a long time. :)

It shocks me, Judge, considering all I have read online about France and aspergers, and yet, it was pretty immediate that I was referred and the lady who I was seeing, kept referring it to aspergers and not autism and said that France has acknowledged since the 80's, but some "professionals" it is true, do not put much on it and others do.

It is exciting and especially as she occasionally pointed out aspie traits. There was one question about being so obsorbed in what you are doing, that you don't notice people coming and going and she pointed to the door and noticed, I had not put my head up, when my husband walked in!

We used google to translate and we were laughing at the funny mistranslations. One was "backpacking" to denote "massage"!

What was really appreciated by me, was when I explained that I am much better at reading facial expression, than I was as a child, teen and young adult and she made a note on that.

I really came unstuck when it was a test on emotions and got confused with tons of different names.

I also had to do a test on whether I felt something was innappropriate to say and explain if yes and no need to explain if no!
 
Don't worry about the IQ test Suzanne, it's an arbitrary figure anyway and as said above, it's a very flawed process. It is simply a part of the classification process. I think you need not worry about getting a "sub-normal" result. Your posts on here have demonstrated you are a bright and compassionate woman and we appreciate you here for those qualities.
As Judge said above, going through this with you from afar has been quite an education. Your openness about your doubts, fears and hopes has given me an insight into something I didn't experience because of my diagnosis in my youth. Whatever the result may be, please tell us and talk to us about it, even if what the therapist decides is not something you want to hear. I'll be keeping an eye on this forum over Christmas to hear your news :)

How heartwarming your answer is!

I feel at last, a kind of light at the end of a tunnel sort of sensation.

She was using google to translate her thoughts on me and what I read, was amazing.

She put: I think that you have spent years holding yourself in, so as to not trip up with words, that it is like you are a tight string? I nodded my head avidly.

Think, as with many things, there are pros and cons for diagnosis earlier on and when much older.

Had I been diagnosed in the 70's, perhaps things would have been easier. But despite a couple of therapy sessions, all that was told was that I was painfully shy and seem to have trouble socialising, but it never went beyond that!
 
Typically now, if you fall into the ASD 1 category you'll receive one of three diagnoses, in the UK at least. I'm not sure if the same will apply in France where Suzanne is.

ASD (Asperger's Syndrome)
ASD (High Functioning)
or just
ASD

They haven't abandoned the old classifications but they are secondary to the ASD diagnosis itself.

Believe it is one category here in France. I am or I am not, as it were.
 
Had I been diagnosed in the 70's

Just for the record, the first time Asperger's Syndrome and the concept of an autistic spectrum was formally identified was in a paper by Lorna Wing in 1981. Lorna was and still is a leading figure of the UK National Autistic Society. It remained a controversial topic until the early 90s when it gained more widespread recognition, particularly following the publication of German psychologist Uta Frith's 1992 book on Autism and Asperger's. She was also responsible for the observations of differences in Theory of Mind in autistic people.
I was diagnosed in the 1980s and was probably amongst the first formal diagnoses outside of Lorna Wing's clinic. It wasn't until around 2000 that I started to come across professionals who had heard of it, still less who understood it. Until then the mention of autism was accompanied by images of severe problems as typified by the 1943 Leo Kanner model.
Thank your deity of choice that we have moved on since then!
 
I don't think that IQ tests are an acurate measure of intelligence and that they measure your ability to perform certain tasks at a given time on a given day, but they can't measure all forms of intelligence, the only way to do that would be to know and observe the person over a long time. I have seen forum members who scored around 80 in an IQ test, yet their writing clearly shows intelligence - it is articulate, insightful, knowledgeable and creative, there is no way one can say that those people have a low intelligence when the evidence is to the contrary. I don't think that I would do well either, as the test has a time limit and I don't perform well under pressure. I work slowly but accurately, I double-check and don't move on until I'm sure my answer is correct, so I always run out of time in tests with a time limit. I don't think that I would score particularly well, but I'm sure that I am of at least average intelligence, because of my academic history. I would just focus on doing your best and try not to worry about the score, and when you get it, don't read too much into it.
 

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