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[Mary Lyn]

Hi

I am a returning member formally known as chocoholic, but am having to quit due to oxalates,

 

[Yeshuasdaughter]

Hi

I am a returning member formally known as chocoholic, but am having to quit due to oxalates,

Oxalic Acid? I don't understand. Is it hurting your liver? Please explain.

 

[Mary Lyn]

Yes it is oxalic acid, often causing kidney stones which l am unaware of but l get other symptoms like irritable bladder, and back pain. Some foods are very high especially seeds, nuts and many vegetables as a defence mechanism.

I cut back and had an oxalate dump showing l had the problem. Common in ASD l believe.

 

[Yeshuasdaughter]

Yes it is oxalic acid, often causing kidney stones which l am unaware of but l get other symptoms like irritable bladder, and back pain. Some foods are very high especially seeds, nuts and many vegetables as a defence mechanism.

I cut back and had an oxalate dump showing l had the problem. Common in ASD l believe.

Yes it is oxalic acid, often causing kidney stones which l am unaware of but l get other symptoms like irritable bladder, and back pain. Some foods are very high especially seeds, nuts and many vegetables as a defence mechanism.

I cut back and had an oxalate dump showing l had the problem. Common in ASD l believe.

Chanca Piedra (Stone Breaker) supplements might help.

 

[Thinx]

Hi, welcome back. That's tough, sorry you had that issue. I hope there's plenty of good stuff you can eat?

 

[Aspychata]

Welcome back☺

 

[watersprite]

Welcome.



‘Glad you figured out what not to eat. I recently found out I mustn’t eat tree nuts.

 

[Suzette]

Hello again

 

[VictorR]

Hi / Welcome back!

 

[Au Naturel]

Beware! Data dump follows!

Oxalate dumping is, at best, a theory that has no experimental evidence backing it up. Nobody has ever seen it happen in a controlled study. Your body manufactures a lot of the stuff on its own. You can zero out your oxalate consumption and still not cut it by even half. Your liver makes it from protein.

Like a lot of medical issues there is a vast amount of mythology out there about what oxalates cause. They've been blamed for everything from bed wetting to IBS. No evidence for any of this but that has never stopped people from believing something just because they saw it on the internet. Arthritis from oxalates is extremely rare and genetic in cause.

Under some circumstances, they can create calcium oxalate kidney stones. A history of oxalate kidney stones coupled with a high oxalate level urine might lead a doctor to suggest a low oxalate diet - but then that's only one type of kidney stone and there are several. (Calcium phosphate and uric acid kidney stones are also common. Cutting oxalates won't affect them a bit.) A family history and a urine test is the best way to determine your risk. The signs are high urine calcium, abnormal pH (high or low) low urine citrate, low urine volume, (usually from chronic dehydration) and high urine oxalate.

The DASH diet (high intake of fruits, vegetables, nuts and legumes, low-fat dairy products, and whole grains and low intake of sodium, sweetened beverages, and red and processed meats) is the only diet experimentally shown to reduce kidney stones, yet it contains lots of oxalate food. What is more significant is that it also contains high levels of calcium, other minerals and citrates. Calcium combines with oxalates in your intestines before getting absorbed and passes right thru.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa010369

By themselves oxalates don't increase the risk of kidney stones. Things like a low calcium diet, a low fruit & veggie diet, chronic dehydration and excessive amounts of meat do. And sometimes kidney stones just happen despite great eating habits. People want guarantees when all you can to is till the odds a bit.

 

[Mary Lyn]

Interesting.