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Mum of autistic nine-year-old FINED for letting her go on charity ‘holiday of a lifetime’

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  1. AGXStarseed

    AGXStarseed Well-Known Member

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    Jenna Singleton's daughter was offered the trip after classmate's cruel "I hat you" Christmas card


    The mum of an autistic nine-year-old is being FINED for letting her go on a charity ‘holiday of a lifetime’.

    Jenna Singleton said she was “gobsmacked” to find she had been slapped with a £120 fine after her daughter Ella went on a charity ski trip.

    Jenna said that after her daughter received a cruel Christmas card from a classmate, she was offered a dream holiday with a charity that helps sick, disabled and disadvantaged children.

    However Jenna, 32, who says she told Ranworth Square Primary School about the trip and believed she had permission, has now received a fine for her daughter’s ‘unauthorised absence’.

    The Norris Green mum said: “This trip came off the back of something that happened at school so I thought there would have been a bit more understanding.

    “It is not as though I booked this trip myself and chose to do it in school time, they were set dates by the charity.

    “After what happened at Christmas I went into the school and I had a meeting with the headteacher, The SENCO and Ella’s teacher and told them about the trip and nothing was said about any fine or that she couldn’t go.

    “They even said how wonderful it was and joked if there was any room for them on the trip.

    “I definitely thought I had permission - it was all very pleasant. So I was completely shocked when I got the fine.”

    Last year The Liverpool Echo reported on Ella, who on the last day of term was given a cruel Christmas card by a classmate which read: “To Ella, I hat you, ‘Yappy Christmas’.”

    The card, which was posted on social media by Jenna - alongside a picture of Ella crying - went viral and the classmate and her mother apologised.

    After seeing the post UK charity Katie’s Ski Tracks got in touch with the mum and offered Ella a ‘once in a lifetime’ skiing trip to Italy, from February 23 to March 1.

    Jenna said Ella, who struggles to make friends, “learned so much” from the trip and is begging to go back.

    She added: “It has helped her so much with her confidence and she has made so many friends and that is a big thing for Ella.

    “She keeps asking when can she go back and I have had to explain that it is other boys and girls’ turns now.

    “This charity only takes 20 children every year and she was very, very lucky to get on it.

    “I am disappointed with the school to be honest and I don’t feel like they have given Ella much support.

    “After everything that happened they should have been happy for her to have been given this trip.”

    Jenna said she will appeal the fine and believes the school should pay it as a “gesture of good will”.

    She said: “When something is done by charity for someone you don’t expect them to suffer consequences for it.

    “She had the time of her life on that trip and no words can describe what they did for her.

    “I would never have stopped her going and I will be challenging the fine.

    “It feels like a bit of a low blow from the school to be honest and I think they should pay it as a good will gesture.”

    A school spokesperson said: “Our hands are tied because the Department for Education has very strict rules which means that we are unable to grant permission for time off in term time except in truly exceptional circumstances.

    “These include visiting a seriously ill family member or attending the funeral of a close family member.

    “The legislation, which was tightened in 2013, has been backed by a ruling in the Supreme Court.

    “There is an appeals process which mum is free to pursue if she wishes.”


    Source: Mum of autistic child FINED for letting her on charity ‘holiday of a lifetime’
     
  2. Catana

    Catana Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    Good grief! Parents are fined if a child has an "unauthorized absence? Is this standard British law? I suppose it's better than a child being committed to a juvenile facility, as happens here in the states, but... What the hell?
     
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    It is interesting to see the concept of "zero tolerance" more prevalent to educational systems than any others, regardless of the nation in question. Where it can span a spectrum from sensibility to preposterous.

    I can only chuckle- or cringe at the academic implications (or lack thereof) of zero tolerance itself. :rolleyes:

    A strange thing to program into the minds of children. But then I don't come from a society that's particularly big on zero tolerance in general. A dynamic that seems to separate so many of us from so many of you. :cool:

    Gotta love art that imitates life:


    Apologies to Mr. Godwin and his so-called "law". :p
     
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    Yes. Its standard. A guy lost a court case agaimst the school.

    Parents just pay the fine,normally. Still cheaper to get the holiday prices outside of school holiday time even including the fine..

    Just extra income for the schools imo hidden behind some educational excuse.
     
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  5. Judge

    Judge Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    Point taken. Another mechanism of socialism to garner revenue rather than dispense social justice.

    Socialist revenue-gathering masquerading as educational zero-tolerance. Suddenly it all makes sense. ;)
     
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  6. The Great Gayspie

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    I am a socialist. are you ? :)
     
  7. Judge

    Judge Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    No. In my country much of any manifestation of "creative revenue gathering" is considered something unwanted and unappreciated unless you are a politician or a bureaucrat.

    Something that can happen with most any democracy with a mixed economy regardless of what party or ideology is in control. Annoying as hell at times. Especially when it comes to gas taxes right when crude oil is spiking, having to pay $3.50 the other day for regular gas at the pump.
     
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    Fridgemagnetman I only have one V.I.P Member

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    Boo hoo. It's about $8.60 dollar equivalent in the UK.

    Although, everything is about 4 times nearer...
     
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    Judge Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    Your country isn't anywhere close to being energy independent as is ours. The Saudis would have never considered lowering their oil output in an attempt to undermine our domestic oil production had we not been a real threat to them to them in the first place.

    But we are. Yet IMO we pay for oil based on a WTI market price that doesn't truly reflect domestic energy reserves.
     
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    Fridgemagnetman I only have one V.I.P Member

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    Don't need it.
    We've harvested political boondoggle for future energy needs.

    Finally,Boris Johnson is proving useful.
     
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    You lost me there. What's Boris up to now?

    LOL...he sort of reminded me of Paul Revere (and the Raiders). RIP

    [​IMG]
     
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    Providing hot air for British energy providers.
     
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    This sucks.

    So the kid missed a few days of school? Big whoop, the kid is 9 they're hardly going to be cramming for important exams and stuff.

    And what winds me up about this whole idea of fining people for taking kids out of school during term time, is that in the majority of cases it actually works out cheaper to pay the fine and take them anyway than pay 3 times the price for the same holiday when the schools are off.
     
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    We have similar policies here in various states. But yeah, it sucks. Especially when the authorities leave the power of determining truancy in the hands of school administrators and bureaucrats who may be able to make those fines stick.

    I guess the Cullens can no longer take their kids out of school for camping trips either. That must bite.
     
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    Yes. It SUCKS.

    It's the most ridiculous nonsensical law. If you take your child out of school, both parents get fined and if you don't pay the fine quickly you can get prosecuted and get a criminal record which can potentially lead to you losing your job.

    So obviously all the tour operators jump on this and UK vacations in school holidays are 10 times more expensive and super crowded. There's a concept of "peak" and "off peak" where even theme parks hoick up the price in school holidays.

    It's an absolute nightmare for those of us who can't stand crowds, it basically ensures we can never have a day out with our kids. I've signed so many petitions but all the childless politicians still think it's a fabulous idea and don't see the problem.
     
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