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Jury Duty

Discussion in 'Politics Discussion' started by Warshipsfan1, Jan 25, 2021.

  1. Warshipsfan1

    Warshipsfan1 Well-Known Member

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    I've been called up to potentially do jury duty from Feb 2021 until Feb 2022

    I'm to nervous and to scared to potentially serve on a jury. I couldn't handle it, I would feel intense panic attacks

    Would this be reason to allow exemption? or is there something else I need to provide

    Thanks in advance

    (Im in Australia btw)
     
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    tree Blue/Green Staff Member V.I.P Member

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    Did they send a form for you to fill out?
    We get a form that asks whether a person has any
    condition that would prevent/impair the ability to
    serve on the jury.
     
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    Jury duty: If you have questions, we have answers - ABC Everyday

    Here's a short and abridged list of some of the reasons you might be excused, courtesy of David Tait, a professor of justice research at Western Sydney University.

    • If you are self-employed or run a small business that would be affected by your absence;
    • If you are a student or apprentice;
    • If you have a health issue or live with a disability that would make jury service difficult;
    • If you aren't living in the state where you have been summoned to attend court, or if you have transport difficulties (e.g. you live very far from the court);
    • Some professions may exempt you from serving on a jury. This usually covers criminal lawyers, police and other people that work in the criminal justice system, but each jurisdiction is different.
     
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    I've been called a number of times. I am in healthcare,...so, most of the time people in healthcare do not get called to sit on juries. The lawyers "weed us out" as (1) we tend to be a bit more intelligent and ask a lot of questions, (2) are used to working with the public, their intellectual BS, and lies, and (3) have no compassion for drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, wife beaters, child abusers, etc.

    I would imagine someone who identifies as a highly intelligent person on the autistic spectrum would also, for some of the same reasons, be weeded out from a potential jury.
     
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    You will probably need medical proof of your condition (anxiety/panic attacks) to be exempt, they won't just take your word on its own...
     
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    quite a reflection on who they want as a juror
     
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    When I was up for a jury selection here in Canada... Anyone who is a citizen can be called up for jury selection, you have to be there on the day they select a jury, there is a warrant for your arrest if you are not there

    You sit in a giant auditorium, and you are given a number, you can contest your ability to serve on a jury before they start selection

    Then they just randomly draw numbers, if you are one of the "lucky" ones you go down in front of the lawyers, they may or may not ask questions, will look you over and at that point indicate whether they want you on the jury

    In my case they chose me, it turned out to be an interesting experience looking back... My main point is that selection to even be there that day is random, and whether they choose your number from the audience is random, and even then there is only a chance that you will be selected for that jury
     
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    I served on a jury, I think they were happy with me because I look gay (and am) and they expect me to be broadminded and not far right politically. The other jurors were interesting to chat to and it was fine, quite interesting. They tell you what to do, there's no confusion it's all quite structured.
     
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    It would be interesting to observe a judge objectively questioning a potential juror who immediately volunteers that they are autistic. And to subsequently watch both the prosecution and defense dismiss them out of some form of nebulous prejudice. In that instance let's hope the defendant wasn't on the spectrum as well.

    Though otherwise, I suspect there's a good possibility that neither the defense or prosecution is likely to question one's neurological profile unless it's volunteered at the outset.

    Having served on a few juries and on the witness stand myself, I consider it an important civic duty. Though much like the OP, initially the process seemed very intimidating and stressful. But for someone who grappled with social anxiety, I quickly realized that most of the attention was on the judge, prosecution and defense. Beyond the jury selection process you just sit and observe the proceedings as best as possible, and pay particular attention to any instructions that a judge may give to the jury.

    As for how stressful the deliberations may seem, that depends on the case and how the jury individually or collectively approaches a verdict. I can only say that in those cases I served as a juror, my input was appreciated no more or less than any other juror. Though for anyone regardless of their neurological profile it remains daunting to hold such power over another human being. It's a humbling experience indeed.

    For many of us, there will be countless experiences with social anxiety that will be like scaling a high mountain top. But IMO, this one is worth the climb. Not just for yourself, but possibly the defendant or the prosecution as well. Though knowing that the possibility of being immediately dismissed by either side is reasonably high as well, regardless of how you answer questions or appear before the court.
     
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    @Alexej "quite a reflection on who they want as a juror".

    It's a crazy process to watch. When I was working in the hospital as a young phlebotomist (I drew blood and worked for the lab), I worked night shift,...many times in the Emergency Department. Between the State Police, City Police, and Sheriff,...I had plenty of "legal alcohol and drug screens" to draw. With anything legal like this, of course, I sign my name to the sample. Then some 6, 9, 12 months later,...I get an official subpoena to show up in court as a "witness". Basically, they want to prove "chain of possession" with the blood sample. Well, I drew hundreds of these things,...and sure enough,...I would be sitting in a court room for hours at a time,...most of which just off to the side watching the process unfold before me. As someone jokingly said to me, "You could wallpaper a bathroom with all those subpoenas."

    It may seem like a random appointment to be selected for jury duty, however, once you get selected to be in a group of potential jurors,...nothing is random. The prosecuting and defending lawyers will negotiate specifically each individual juror.

    No, they don't want one or two people on the jury who are going to go back into conference rooms, intelligently, and methodically dissecting information,...and then asking the judge for more information regarding the case. This "wastes time",...even though, potentially, a life or lives are at stake, as is "justice served". They want a quick turn-around. In,...out,...guilty,...not guilty,...next.

    No, they don't want a nurse, a doctor, a parent,...or anyone else who has been affected by say,...drunk driving, rape, child abuse, etc. There may be some perceived bias. They are eliminated.

    Actually having a "jury of your peers" is difficult and rare, in some cases.
     
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    I once had the misfortune of recognizing someone in my same jury group, and we both acknowledged one another. -So did the judge. Yeah, at that time I really felt the heat of the spotlight being on me.

    Made for an interesting addition of questions by the judge as opposed to the prosecution and defense. Yet in the end, we both ended up serving on the same case. He as a corporate manager and myself as an insurance underwriter. A case of felony hit-and-run where a foolish young woman rear-ended a very expensive hot rod en route to a car show having left the scene of the accident.

    Frankly I was a bit surprised I was chosen given my profession at the time. Especially given that I was always dismissed for any civil cases. LOL...in those circumstances no one wants to deal with liability underwriters.

    At times it's a very convoluted process. But quite deliberate, nonetheless.

    Incidentally, here's a synopsis of what it takes to be excused from serving as a juror in a New South Wales court. I'm guessing that such terms and requirements in other states and territories in Australia are similar:

    Apply to be excused from jury service
     
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    Honestly every time I hear someone try to get out of jury duty I hear a lot of whine, whine, and moan.
    Do your civic duty it's not that hard.
     
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    In general I agree, however for sincere and extreme stress people need the chance to opt out.
     
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    Xerces Blue Evil Overload

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    Every time I have to do something I think will be hard or unpleasant, it's worse thinking about it than actually doing it.
    The experience is vastly changed by the attitude you go into it with.
    I have a Rambling story to back this up, but if you care to take me at my word you can skip it.

    Rambling story starts here:

    Back in the day my platoon ran the shooting range for our unit, 115th maintenance CRC(component rebuild company) (some 200+ people) and often for one or 2 other units in order to get through annual weapons qualifications.
    we acted as safeties, coaches, manned the ammo shed and cleaned up the range at the end of the day.
    when we did this the day started at 4 or 5 am.
    On one occasion I was put in charge of retrieving ammo from the ammo dump.
    At this point I was the senior specialist in the platoon, I was given a PFC and another SPC for the detail, I was the A Driver of our LMTV and that means I had final say on the music we listened to on the way.

    I started us out with some metal and we shifted into some R & B but it was mostly down beat (45 minute drive or so).
    Everyone was complaining.
    eventually I got sick of the negative attitude.
    I put on this song. Up beat but with strong yet melancholy lyrics.

    They asked me to play it again 3 times.
    Made the hole day better.
    Got back to the armory and finished cleaning weapons around 5pm.
    Was a good day.
     
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    I am concerned that I might not get the underlying text of what is going on due to lack of Theory of Mind and not being inquisitive enough as to why somebody did something.
    I do not think I would do a good job as a juror