interesting find in my e-mail this morning

[kay]

New Research Suggests Social Issues are Down to Neurotypicals more than Autistics

 

[Fridgemagnetman]

In other words, they found that an important contributor to social and communication problems stemmed not from the autistic individuals, but rather from the neurotypical reactions, based on (by definition) exclusionary social attitudes and first impressions, which led to a decreased drive to interact with autistic individuals. That is to say, neurotypicals tend to decide, within moments of meeting autistic people, that autistic people are less worth socialising with than neurotypicals.

Rather, it was how autistic people look, rather than the substance of what was said, that was the key factor in determining the neurotypical drive to exclude autistic individuals.


Excerpt above.

My take is more that some pretend to have empathy but don’t give two hoots.
Diagnoses tend to be written by those expecting empathy to be represented in the standard way.

Yeh, nice article.

 

[OkRad]

Holy Cripes. This is so true and what we knew a long time ago, though not without a tremendous amount of self castigation prior to figuring it out. I guess some never do and live in crushing shame till the end.

I remember when it was "all me." If I listed all the mental health dxes I had, you would all be laughing so hard, you would never need to watch Netflix again.

And YET no NT ever said----ummmm, impossible except my geneticist. Whom I LOVE. He went right round the other side and said none of these are psych except the PTSD. I agree. genetic/environmental/etc.............

 

[LucyPurrs]

Makes total sense to me (the article that is).

 

[watersprite]

I guess some never do and live in crushing shame till the end.

^

Wish there was a way to prevent the shame from getting started at all.

 

[Ambi]

I think most social issues among neurotypicals is due to their own tendencies too - they do that same thing to other NTs and it leads to all kinds of misunderstanding, biases, and communication breakdown.

 

[kay]

It was a nice thing to read this morning after all the stress of Thanksgiving. And my Thanksgiving was easy compared to so many.

 

[dragoncat16]

This article is EXACTLY what I have thought all along. Every slightly unusual behaviour we have is magnified by the NTs' perception right from the start. Right from the first meeting, we don't stand a chance to form social relationships with NTs like other NTs do.

I would like to see a study in which observers on the spectrum are chosen to participate, rather than exclusively NT observers. It might just be that there is a line in society that is difficult to cross, i.e. people on the spectrum tend to like each other better than they like NTs, just as the converse is true. I am sure that is true in my case. Most of my friendships have been with people who were possibly on the spectrum.

 

[wight]

I guess I'm not surprised. Falls right in line with most "immediate judgment" stuff, that is essentially about appearance.

E.g.: Attractive People Are Simply More Successful

“Good-looking people are more appealing ... [so] other people choose to interact with them, to spend time near them, talk with them, buy insurance from them, and hire them as employees.”

 

[pax]

Nothing I hadn't worked out, but nice to see it in print. It's the neurotypicals that lack empathy and social awareness . Their social shallowness is a big negative in their interactions with each other as well. Most of them never work this out.

 

[watersprite]

@pax yes I like how you put that. Whenever I contemplate social interaction with neurotypicals I get an image of empty platforms floating in a 3D space. There are no connections between them.