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I am very curious about certain personality parameters and how they apply to the Autistic

Oldlady

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Specifically: introversion/extroversion
agreeableness/disagreeableness
thinker/feeler

Where are you on these parameters?
 
I'm a sociable introvert. Definitely a thinker. Not sure about agreeableness, not sure what that means. I like to think I'm a reasonably nice person, I try to be kind and considerate to others, although I'm sure I don't always succeed.
 
I've seen multiple definitions of these terms, particularly "thinker" and "introversion". Could you please include the definition you use?
 
I'm more intoverted that extroverted, more thinker than feeler, and agreeableness/disagreeableness, I really don't know - both, at different times.
 
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I'm very introverted, which makes me agreeable because I will do anything to avoid confrontation. Though I don't necessarily agree but will keep it to myself most the time, but will not make a fuss to get my way when it comes to what to watch on tv or things like that. As far as thinker/feeler, I'd have to say both - 50/50.
 
I test as INTJ though since I was socialised as a female I have reasonably good Fe. I was taught that a female's role in life is to make sure everyone else is comfortable so I find that I both excel at that and rebel against it. I would rather make sure everyone else is well informed, but I am willing to offer them a cup of tea while we work on that.

Edited to add that I always forget my Big Five results but I do know I score as highly agreeable.
 
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As an ESTJ, I believe that my disagreeable side comes from J, the judger. I can't help but form an opinion on anything and everything, regardless of its usefulness. The T, thinker, uses the brain to understand the world in great detail. I don't accept face value. S, sensation, means I must experience something. I can accept anything, but I am more comfortable doing it to truly understand it. The E, extroversion, is my fearless, almost naive way to explore.

None of these functions independently. It is the combination that makes the personality maneuver and flow. For the sake of understanding how ASD influences these traits, consider that we still don't understand ASD enough beyond something associated with neurological wiring (simplified version). The why, wherefore, and how is a scientific quest. These personality traits could be exacerbated by ASD, but like anything in autism, it's a question of degrees. I do not feel that ASD makes me agreeable or disagreeable, but I know my personality does. I would need an NT clone of myself to see how much one might influence the other. It's like taking the color purple and separating the red from the blue to measure percentages.

One must consider the dangers of labeling personalities and categorizing people for their faults and virtues. This is commonplace in business career placement strategies, but it shouldn't be thought of as a real science. My personal life has no place at work, and my work has no place at home (easier said than done), so any person can call upon the applicability of their traits for certain tasks and actions. ASD doesn't tell me to be polite nor exclude good manners when called upon. ASD doesn't dictate my ability to be agreeable, but the fact that I am an extrovert and I have opinions as a judger means that I might voice my view more often than not, regardless of it being welcome or even needed. Oops, my socially awkward Asperger moment.

We may be looking more at how disagreeable and agreeable personalities exist without the influence of ASD. I've known NTs who become very disagreeable if they don't get their way, in the manner of a spoiled child. I'm also very impressed by people on this forum who can keep their cool and be very diplomatic in response to outrageous statements.

Since childhood, I have been very obedient. I learned respect for authority, kindness, manners, and I am never late for anything. ASD has nothing to do with these. They were learned. My ESTJ side is woven into my interaction with the world. From the big mix of environment, ASD, and personality traits, we develop our way of functioning. ASD can hinder me in areas, but make me exceptional in others, only because I am keenly aware of what makes me different from the NT world. When I analyze my value, I realize that I have all the ingredients appropriate for someone whose job is to check a jumbo jet before it leaves the ground (just don't tough my tools). Somewhere in the big mix, I am driven to absolute perfection in ensuring completion of the tasks. There is no way for me to know exactly where this all comes from, suffice to say it is the mix.
 
As an ESTJ,

Your reply is very interesting to me because although I am new here and have only briefly interacted with you I immediately found you very appealing and perhaps even familiar. My Dad is an ESTJ and as you describe yourself you could certainly be describing him in so many ways. I do not believe he is on the spectrum but he definitely has traits so he could be in the Broad Autistim Phenotype category. Since ESTJ and INTJ ( which I am ) both use Te I find I really get how my Dad thinks and we are very much intellectually bonded even though we don't share a lot of interests.

Summary: You may not think you are agreeable but I do. LOL
 
INTJ
Mbti Personality Type

INTJ is an abbreviation used in the publications of the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator to refer to one of the 16 psychological types. According to Myers–Briggs the INTJ represents "The Mastermind". INTJs are one of the rarest of the 16 psychological types and account for 2―4% of the population
 
I'm a sociable introvert. Definitely a thinker. Not sure about agreeableness, not sure what that means. I like to think I'm a reasonably nice person, I try to be kind and considerate to others, although I'm sure I don't always succeed.

Sounds like you're quite agreeable. Someone for whom social harmony is a priority over other parameters like efficiency.
 
I've seen multiple definitions of these terms, particularly "thinker" and "introversion". Could you please include the definition you use?

Thinker/feeler as per Meyers-Briggs. Do you know what you're feeling most of the time and make most of your decisions based on those feelings? Or do you have to think about how you feel and make decisions based on analysis?

Are you (would you like to be) relatively social out of choice or do you prefer your own company most of the time?
 
I'm very introverted, which makes me agreeable because I will do anything to avoid confrontation. Though I don't necessarily agree but will keep it to myself most the time, but will not make a fuss to get my way when it comes to what to watch on tv or things like that. As far as thinker/feeler, I'd have to say both - 50/50.

Your introversion is not what makes you agreeable. I am very introverted and quite disagreeable. Just saying.

Do you know what you are feeling most of the time or do you have to think about it before you know what you're feeling?
 

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