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Gamers Caught Cheating

You can never win online multiplayer. It only gives you ever harder lobbies. There's something unsatisfactory about it. In single player you win and you're done.
 
Cheating is an age old problem and little to do with eGames specifically. No one likes to play with cheats.
But I think the game type can effect this too, and some games are more likely to attract cheats, and online, multiplayer actions games popular with younger age ranges are more likely to be victim.

But I never liked multiplayer games except when I played against friends/colleagues by networking a few machines together (this was pre-internet - LAN gaming). Hearing a friend screaming in annoyance at the other side of the room brings a pleasure like no other when you're responsible for it in the virtual world!
 
Once commercialism infected them, almost all international competitive professional sports/games have become very toxic in nature.
Mind you, I'm not convinced they ever fitted the description of bringing different nations together by beating each other on an uneven playing field, and getting gradually more and more worked up over it across the years. Nothing wrong with competition, but pretending it's a way for everyone to get along with each other better without something more in place is just plain dishonest. I bet it's the countries that win most who express this sentiment the most, and cheating here has always been the case too.
 
I never play online, but I'm one of those cheaters. For me modifying the game and playing it again is half the fun, I enjoy tinkering with the code as much as I enjoy playing.
 
I never play online, but I'm one of those cheaters. For me modifying the game and playing it again is half the fun, I enjoy tinkering with the code as much as I enjoy playing.
Yeah, I do sometimes play with cheat codes in my games, although in that situation it's purely for me and not affecting anyone else.
If I was doing two player, I'd either have cheats on for both of us or for off for both of us.
 
Cheating is an age old problem and little to do with eGames specifically. No one likes to play with cheats.
But I think the game type can effect this too, and some games are more likely to attract cheats, and online, multiplayer actions games popular with younger age ranges are more likely to be victim.
My context here is non-funded gaming:

There are older ppl who cheat, but it is predominantly younger ppl, whose brain hasn't developed fully, that seem to be the major problem.
The intellectual part of the brain, ironically, is slower at developing, while the more emotional aspect has greater control earlier on.
Integrity, honesty, and fair-mindedness, tend to be more developed in the fully mature brain.
 
It's one thing to cheat the game, quite another to cheat other people competing together in a game.
I'll cheat a one player game without compunction if it means the difference between getting more out of it or getting fed up with it.
 
I never play online, but I'm one of those cheaters. For me modifying the game and playing it again is half the fun, I enjoy tinkering with the code as much as I enjoy playing.
But do you do that in multiplayer?

I have no problem whatsoever with stacking the cards in single player.
You paid for the game, so it is your choice how you play.
No one else is involved, so how can it be an issue?
If someone does take offence, it is a matter of ideology, not morality.
 
Integrity, honesty, and fair-mindedness, tend to be more developed in the fully mature brain.
Not sure I'd agree with that, I've met 13 year olds more mature and grown up than many 25 year olds (and worse cases). I think it has much more to do with upbringing (environment) than age and genetics, which may be why it seems more prevalent in younger people. After all we now live in a culture that not only accepts, but actually worships successful cheaters. Most of us have made equally wrong decisions too (those who have voted or had some other equivalent influence). Being intelligent doesn't mean being rational.
 
Not sure I'd agree with that, I've met 13 year olds more mature and grown up than many 25 year olds (and worse cases). I think it has much more to do with upbringing (environment) than age and genetics, which may be why it seems more prevalent in younger people. After all we now live in a culture that not only accepts, but actually worships successful cheaters. Most of us have made equally wrong decisions too (those who have voted or had some other equivalent influence). Being intelligent doesn't mean being rational.
Firstly, don't go Black & White thinking on me. :p
I did say "tend to be".
And we are talking about gaming, not generally.

Many ppl, probably the majority of ppl, look back at some of the stupidity on their youth and cringe.
Self-esteem is important in developing self-worth, in most of us, imo.

Yes, upbringing does play a part.
I never suggested it didn't, but you are missing the part about the intellectual development of the individual's brain from more emotional to more rational.

Parental indoctrination can impart an ethical ideology, but it is an external influence.
Please keep in mind I am talking about parental influences, which is something you brought up, not inherent character in the individual.

Damn, it is like struggling with an eel with you.:p
Sorry Marine Life GIF by pikaole

Or playing wack-a-mole. :eek:
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Once again, as always:
"Context is important."

Also, just because you have reached the age of 25, doesn't mean that you have mastered the "new toy" of rational, as opposed to emotional, thinking.
It takes time.
That is is why, this old git, considers anyone under the age of 30 still a child.:cool:
 
@Boogs.
You are focusing on societal influences, whereas, my context was neurological/biological realities. :cool:

Yes, there are individuals with an inherent moral compass, some autistic ppl in particular are evidence of this, but generally speaking, without positive parental guidance, you tend to have problems in terms of ethical behaviour.

However, self-actualisation, through self-esteem using rational/intellectual thinking, does tend to develop greater ethical behaviour.

All organisms tend to be inherently selfish/self-protecting/self-obsessed, due to the blind evolutionary process.
Why should humanity be different? :cool:
 
Cheating in competitive online games is low self esteem, narcissistic behaviour. Or it's a malicious intent to ruin other's fun. You learn a lot about human behaviour from online games!
 
Read the very first 4 words of my message you responded to: I never play online.
Oops...
I meant to say:
But would you do that if you did play multiplayer?

I have an ethical problem with cheating, to the point I simply won't play.

I even bought a PS4 where hacking is rare.
Unfortunately, the garden variety of cheating is not, so that was ultimately a dead end, also.
 
Cheating in competitive online games is low self esteem, narcissistic behaviour. Or it's a malicious intent to ruin other's fun. You learn a lot about human behaviour from online games!
And there is the power abuse.

I have thought a lot about what inspires ppl to cheat.
Human psychology gives good insight.

A lot of players on the end of cheating are confused by what motivates these ppl.
They can't comprehend how ppl can enjoy an unfair competition.
For most, imo, developing their skill is the reward.
For others, not so much.

Yep, low self-esteem is part of it, driving ppl to cheat in order to gain undeserved social status/admiration.
And then you have the thrill of being in a position of power.

Jordan Peterson has talked about the effect on lobsters gaining a chemical hit when they win a dominance battle.
This then becomes addictive behaviour.

I guess some ppl simply haven't evolved. 🦞
 

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