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Blaming Trans Identities On Autism Hurts Everyone

AGXStarseed

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(Not written by me)

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There has recently been a lot of media attention on the connection between being transgender and being autistic. The focus of much of this attention is Dr Kenneth Zucker, a psychologist whose gender clinic was closed down in 2015 for practising reparative therapy on children - behavioural therapy with the aim of ‘training’ children not to be transgender. He has been outspoken about his views that children with gender dysphoria are often autistic, and the implication that this somehow means they are not truly transgender.

Blaming trans identities on autism like this is directly harmful in many ways. Not just to autistic transgender people, but to other autistic people, other trans people, and to those who are neither.


It hurts autistic people

To blame trans identities on autism is to say that autistic people cannot understand or be aware of their own gender. If an autistic person cannot know they are trans, how can they know they aren’t? How can they know anything about themselves?

When a person’s gender is doubted because they are autistic, this paves the way for removing autistic people’s agency in all kinds of other ways. If we can’t know this central aspect of our identity, we surely can’t know how we feel, what we like, or who we are. In short, it implies that we are not truly people, and that our existence, experiences, and identities are for other people to define. This is just another facet of dehumanising autistic people, and gender is certainly not the only area in which this happens.


It hurts transgender people

In itself, the very urge to find a ‘reason’ that someone is transgender is a result of believing that being transgender is a problem, and that it would always be better not to be. The fact that clinicians like Zucker are focused on why someone is transgender, instead of focusing on what kind of help they need and how to best provide it, demonstrates clearly the belief that it is fundamentally bad to be transgender.

Not only that, but the belief that it’s even theoretically possible for anyone besides the individual in question to know what someone’s gender is. That’s just not how gender works! No-one really understand what gender is, or what it means, or where it comes from. The only thing we know for sure is that it’s internal, subjective, and personal. You can’t prove or test someone else’s gender any more than you can prove or test their favourite colour. The idea that it can be tested is constantly used to invalidate trans people. Our genders are doubted or disbelieved if we fail to adequately ‘prove’ ourselves to everyone else - if we express too many or too few gender stereotypes, if we are too old or too young, if we claim to be nonbinary or our description of our identity is too complicated or confusing.


It hurts autistic transgender people

When Zucker and others like him talk about autistic trans people, it is entirely with the implication that a person cannot be both. If a child goes to a gender clinic for dysphoria and is found to be autistic, the assumption is that they therefore must not be transgender. Their entire experience of gender is blamed on autism and brushed off as an arbitrary ‘fixation’.

Perhaps less common but equally damaging is when problems related to autism are blamed on the fact someone is transgender, rather than vice versa. If a transgender person seeks support or assessment for autism, any autistic trait they point out may be brushed off as a result of being transgender. The assumption people make in these cases is again that it’s impossible for someone who is transgender to also be autistic.

But autistic transgender people do exist. I am right here, existing - so are many of my friends. And if anecdotal evidence isn’t good enough, there is increasing research showing a correlation between being transgender and autistic among children and adults.

We don’t just exist, we exist disproportionately. And we’re not going anywhere. Autistic transgender people’s needs are unique, perhaps complex, perhaps poorly-understood. But the solution to the ‘problem’ of autistic transgender people is not to deny our existence, it’s to accept and learn about it.


It hurts everyone else

Much of the concern over autistic and transgender people - particularly children - seems to be rooted in worries for people who are not those things, but falsely believe that they are. If a child becomes mistakenly convinced that they are transgender, that they will be forced into life-altering hormones and surgeries. Or if a non-autistic person believes they are autistic, that they will be permanently labelled and coddled with no hope of change.

But those things are only a risk if the people around them are enforcing strict binaries and preventing harmless self-exploration. If a child mentions not feeling like their birth-assigned gender, and the next day they are put under the knife for permanent and risky surgery - yes, of course that would be bad. If a child mentions not feeling like their birth-assigned gender, and the next day they are forced into behavioural modification therapy to stop them from expressing those feelings - that is bad too.

Those two approaches are not the only options, though. The best option is to allow someone to explore their feelings, support them in gaining self-understanding, and accept their identity whatever it turns out to be. It is not complicated, and it’s only scary if you are still holding onto the belief that being either autistic or transgender - or, perish the thought, both - is a terrible thing to be. Which it’s not. I am, along with countless others like me, living proof of that.

Read more from Jay at autisticality.


Source: Blaming Trans Identities On Autism Hurts Everyone | The Huffington Post
 
What a strange idea. The only thing that's funny, to me personally, is that my therapist briefly questioned me on gender dysphoria before starting diagnostic tests for autism.

The only parallel I can see between autism and being transgender is diverting from societal norms, and anything divergent is scary for many people.
 
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There has recently been a lot of media attention on the connection between being transgender and being autistic. The focus of much of this attention is Dr Kenneth Zucker, a psychologist whose gender clinic was closed down in 2015 for practising reparative therapy on children - behavioural therapy with the aim of ‘training’ children not to be transgender. He has been outspoken about his views that children with gender dysphoria are often autistic, and the implication that this somehow means they are not truly transgender.

Blaming trans identities on autism like this is directly harmful in many ways. Not just to autistic transgender people, but to other autistic people, other trans people, and to those who are neither.


It hurts autistic people

To blame trans identities on autism is to say that autistic people cannot understand or be aware of their own gender. If an autistic person cannot know they are trans, how can they know they aren’t? How can they know anything about themselves?

When a person’s gender is doubted because they are autistic, this paves the way for removing autistic people’s agency in all kinds of other ways. If we can’t know this central aspect of our identity, we surely can’t know how we feel, what we like, or who we are. In short, it implies that we are not truly people, and that our existence, experiences, and identities are for other people to define. This is just another facet of dehumanising autistic people, and gender is certainly not the only area in which this happens.


It hurts transgender people

In itself, the very urge to find a ‘reason’ that someone is transgender is a result of believing that being transgender is a problem, and that it would always be better not to be. The fact that clinicians like Zucker are focused on why someone is transgender, instead of focusing on what kind of help they need and how to best provide it, demonstrates clearly the belief that it is fundamentally bad to be transgender.

Not only that, but the belief that it’s even theoretically possible for anyone besides the individual in question to know what someone’s gender is. That’s just not how gender works! No-one really understand what gender is, or what it means, or where it comes from. The only thing we know for sure is that it’s internal, subjective, and personal. You can’t prove or test someone else’s gender any more than you can prove or test their favourite colour. The idea that it can be tested is constantly used to invalidate trans people. Our genders are doubted or disbelieved if we fail to adequately ‘prove’ ourselves to everyone else - if we express too many or too few gender stereotypes, if we are too old or too young, if we claim to be nonbinary or our description of our identity is too complicated or confusing.


It hurts autistic transgender people

When Zucker and others like him talk about autistic trans people, it is entirely with the implication that a person cannot be both. If a child goes to a gender clinic for dysphoria and is found to be autistic, the assumption is that they therefore must not be transgender. Their entire experience of gender is blamed on autism and brushed off as an arbitrary ‘fixation’.

Perhaps less common but equally damaging is when problems related to autism are blamed on the fact someone is transgender, rather than vice versa. If a transgender person seeks support or assessment for autism, any autistic trait they point out may be brushed off as a result of being transgender. The assumption people make in these cases is again that it’s impossible for someone who is transgender to also be autistic.

But autistic transgender people do exist. I am right here, existing - so are many of my friends. And if anecdotal evidence isn’t good enough, there is increasing research showing a correlation between being transgender and autistic among children and adults.

We don’t just exist, we exist disproportionately. And we’re not going anywhere. Autistic transgender people’s needs are unique, perhaps complex, perhaps poorly-understood. But the solution to the ‘problem’ of autistic transgender people is not to deny our existence, it’s to accept and learn about it.


It hurts everyone else

Much of the concern over autistic and transgender people - particularly children - seems to be rooted in worries for people who are not those things, but falsely believe that they are. If a child becomes mistakenly convinced that they are transgender, that they will be forced into life-altering hormones and surgeries. Or if a non-autistic person believes they are autistic, that they will be permanently labelled and coddled with no hope of change.

But those things are only a risk if the people around them are enforcing strict binaries and preventing harmless self-exploration. If a child mentions not feeling like their birth-assigned gender, and the next day they are put under the knife for permanent and risky surgery - yes, of course that would be bad. If a child mentions not feeling like their birth-assigned gender, and the next day they are forced into behavioural modification therapy to stop them from expressing those feelings - that is bad too.

Those two approaches are not the only options, though. The best option is to allow someone to explore their feelings, support them in gaining self-understanding, and accept their identity whatever it turns out to be. It is not complicated, and it’s only scary if you are still holding onto the belief that being either autistic or transgender - or, perish the thought, both - is a terrible thing to be. Which it’s not. I am, along with countless others like me, living proof of that.

Read more from Jay at autisticality.


Source: Blaming Trans Identities On Autism Hurts Everyone | The Huffington Post
it doesn,t hurt me because im male and always will be :)
 
I actually had my older sister not take my transgenderism seriously once because of me having Asperger's. On top of that she said doctors wouldn't take me seriously for the same reason. I'm glad she was wrong about that part. I would like to look more into the connection between having Asperger's and being transgender. I'm pretty hyper aware of my own gender and how it doesn't match my body which leads to a lot of stress and depression.
 
it took me until my twenties to understand gender differed between male and female [physically and mentally] and i had specialist training from an ASDAN teacher in my residential home to help me understand,i then realised i was trans [ftm] and my whole life had presented as male from early toddler age-i just hadnt known it.

id love to meet with this doctor and tell him my experience i am trans and autistic,i am a bloke who wants testosterone and top surgery.
my doctor said to my learning/intellectual disability nurse over the phone that he wont refer me for any procedures because of my autism and ID,it really frustrates me.
however,i attend a LGBT for people with intellectual disability [some of us autistic] and we know what we want, we are not stupid.
 
I used to think i was transgender until i realised i was fixating on the opposite sex as a way to protect myself.

I wonder how many others are like that?

I am very much female from birth and so THANKFUL that I never took the hormones or did any surgeries I would later regret.
 
I don't know that I would "blame" being transgender on autism.

Commonality does not imply causality.
In the northern hemisphere, more people eat ice cream in July than any other month.
And more people drown in July.
So eating ice cream causes drownin--

There may be other contributing factors that point to some shared etiologies or it could all be random flukes.

There may be a link between being autistic and being transgender but we do not really know because of the undiagnosed autistics who may or may not be transgender.

Some of us are het, bi, lesbian, gay, gray, demi, biro, asexual, aromantic, non-binary, genderqueer, gender vague, and all other variations of sexuality and gender identity.

And we get to define who we are.

What I find to be extremely ableist is the idea that some medical professionals refuse to treat gender euphoria because of autism.

We all have a right to competent, respectful treatment. Autism is not a tragedy. Neither is transgenderism. Both certainly increase the risk for a harder life.

I celebrate autistic people. I celebrate transgender people. I celebrate autistic transgender people.
 
"News Release 16-Jul-2019
Study finds transgender, non-binary autism link
Gender identity clinics should screen patients, says lead author of new paper

Anglia Ruskin University





New research indicates that transgender and non-binary individuals are significantly more likely to have autism or display autistic traits than the wider population - a finding that has important implications for gender confirmation treatments.

The study, led by Dr Steven Stagg of Anglia Ruskin University (ARU) and published in the journal European Psychiatry, is one of the first pieces of research to focus on people who identify as non-binary.

It found that 14% of the transgender and non-binary group had a diagnosis of autism, while a further 28% of this group reached the cut off point for an autism diagnosis, suggesting a high number of potentially undiagnosed individuals.

These figures were primarily driven by high scoring amongst those whose assigned gender was female at birth, supporting recent evidence that there is a large population of undiagnosed women with an autism spectrum disorder.

The authors also found higher levels of systematising (a tendency to analyse, control and use rule-based systems) and lower levels of empathy amongst the transgender and non-binary group, characteristics often found in individuals with an autism spectrum disorder.

The study of 177 people reported an autism diagnosis of 4% for the cisgender group (those whose gender identity matches their gender at birth). This is higher than previously-reported estimates for the wider population and the authors believe self-selection for the study could be responsible.

Dr Stagg, Senior Lecturer in Psychology at Anglia Ruskin (ARU), said: "We found that a significant proportion of the transgender and non-binary group either had a diagnosis of autism or displayed autistic traits, including a difficulty in empathising and an overreliance on systematic, rule-based reasoning.

"One of the striking findings was the number of individuals born female who met the cut off for autism spectrum disorder. This is particularly important given that individuals born female are twice as likely to be referred to gender identity clinics.

"Problems interpreting social signals, a literal understanding of language and difficulty recognising and interpreting one's own emotions could mean that individuals struggle with therapeutic interventions.

"People with autism are also more likely to seek unequivocal answers to the complex issues surrounding gender identity. Our study suggests it is important that gender identity clinics screen patients for autism spectrum disorders and adapt their consultation process and therapy accordingly.""

Study finds transgender, non-binary autism link
 
I never bought there is a connection between the two because there are NTs out there that are also trans. I was a tomboy growing up, I was never trans because I never felt wrong about my gender, I was always fine with what I was born as and accepted it. I did go through a stage where I wished I was male but only because I thought penises were cool and I saw what boys could do with them and it made me envy them. I liked how they could pee standing and pee without having to pull down their pants and underwear.

I believe if I were born 20 years later, I might have bought into the whole transgender thing by believing I must be trans if I am not comfortable with my body. I might have believed I was non binary. I would have been reading Tumblr stuff online and reading all this misinformation about what it means to be trans and think I am trans and non binary. So I do believe transtrenders exist but I think they are just confused teenagers and they do outgrow it and go back to their bio genders. I am still skeptical about ROGD. I have not seen any science backing it up by medical professionals. I just had body dysmorphia. Not the same as being gender dysphoric.
 
This is interesting. I identify as non-binary, and asexual. So my first encounter with the supposed 'link' between autism and gender was within those communities. Mostly it's adults saying "yes I'm (identity) and also autistic and I think they're related" - I wasn't actually aware that there was a push to invalidate identities based on autism. (I suspect that's what happens when I spend most of my time around adults who are thinking/feeling/identifying for themselves instead of children who are sadly treated very differently and constantly subjected to attempts to 'fix' them.)

I see my gender and sexual identity as separate from autism. They may be related, but it doesn't change anything about the way I live my life. Paths that occasionally intersect if you will.
 

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