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Arkansas legislators pass ban on transgender medical treatments for youths, overriding gvrner's veto

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  1. Sapphire K

    Sapphire K Autistic Pansexual Enby! (they/them) V.I.P Member

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    I was waiting to post about this until it there was a definite outcome. I suspected they might override the veto, as well.

    Arkansas legislators pass ban on transgender medical treatments for youths, overriding governor’s veto

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    Arkansas state legislators voted Tuesday to pass the nation’s first law banning gender-affirming medical treatments for transgender minors, overriding a veto from their governor and intense opposition from major medical organizations across the country.


    Arkansas legislators voted 25 to 8 in the Senate and 71 to 24 in the House to override the veto from Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) and pass legislation that would prohibit doctors from providing transgender minors with medical care such as puberty blockers, hormone therapies and transition-related surgeries, and from referring them for such treatments. The bill is part of a Republican-led wave of similar legislation in at least 17 other states seeking to restrict access to medical treatments for transgender minors.

    A day earlier, Hutchinson had stunned advocates by issuing a veto of the ban, calling it a “vast government overreach” and urging conservative legislators to take a more restrained approach. He said that if signed into law, the bill would interfere with physicians and parents “as they deal with some of the most complex and sensitive matters involving young people.” He cited opposition from leading national medical associations that said denying access to such medical care could jeopardize the mental health of an already vulnerable community.

    “The bill is overbroad, extreme and does not grandfather those young people who are currently under hormone treatment,” Hutchinson said. “The young people who are currently under a doctor’s care will be without treatment when this law goes into effect. That means they will be looking to the black market or go out of state if they can afford it to find the treatment that they want and need. This is not the right path to put them on.”

    Arkansas governor vetoes bill banning medical treatments for transgender youths

    But state legislators, who needed only a simple majority to override the governor’s veto, voted to pass the bill anyway, setting the stage for a potential legal battle. Lawyers with the American Civil Liberties Union vowed to challenge the ban in court.

    Holly Dickson, executive director of the ACLU of Arkansas, said in a statement that state legislators “disregarded widespread, overwhelming, and bipartisan opposition to this bill and continued their discriminatory crusade against trans youth.”

    “As Governor Hutchinson noted in his veto message, denying care to trans youth can lead to harmful and life-threatening consequences,” Dickson said. “This is a sad day for Arkansas, but this fight is not over — and we’re in it for the long haul. Attempting to block trans youth from the care they need simply because of who they are is not only wrong, it’s also illegal, and we will be filing a lawsuit to challenge this law in court.”

    This report will be updated.

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    I will say this now: trans surgeries are restricted to trans people only 18+, and hormone blockers are reversible, and are used on cis kids to stop premature puberty. Hormone blockers have no adverse side effects and are not dangerous.

    This law is entirely based on ignorance and hate. The fact that this was passed DESPITE scientific evidence against it is screwed up on of itself.

    Expect the suicide rates for trans teens in Arkansas to go up.

    I know how it feels to not be able to access the resources I need. My parents do not understand or accept that I am nonbinary, and that means I cannot get access to a gender specialist in order to know where I would need to go from here.

    This law will only bring harm. This is entirely based off of hatred and transphobia.
     
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    Disgusting. :mad:
     
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    God, this makes me sick. Allowing kids to physically and hormonally mutilate their bodies just...ugh. I’m so glad Arkansas has banned this, and I hope every other state in the U.S. does as well.
     
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    I have to add, I’m so glad I’ve always known I will never have children. For various ethical reasons, but relevant here: I could never subject a human being of any age to the perversity of pubic and private schools. Seriously. The idea of CHILDREN having the legal right to mutilate themselves and chemically manipulate their hormones, all because of the PC crap shoved on them in school, sickens me to my very core. I think of all the things I would have done when I was a kid if I had been allowed...WHOA. Chills down my spine.

    I have NOTHING against gay or trans people AT ALL. I repeat: AT ALL. But letting kids screw with their bodies like this...NO.
     
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    Sapphire K Autistic Pansexual Enby! (they/them) V.I.P Member

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    Do your research before speaking. There is no mutilation involved. There are no harmful effects to hormone meds or puberty blockers. Both are reversible.

    Banning this and forcing trans and nonbinary kids to go through the wrong puberty will cause more harm than good.
     
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    Sapphire K Autistic Pansexual Enby! (they/them) V.I.P Member

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    Nobody is shoving this on them. I was actually never taught about LGBTQ+ topics in school. I had to learn all of that by myself (I am in a conservative state). Allowing this is not going to mean that kids cis kids are going to do it either. Hormone therapy isn't mutilation.

    Teaching kids that queer people exist is not perverse? How the heck is it perverse?
    So you are transphobic but won't admit it, huh?
     
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    Yep. It's a lot easier to block puberty (which is reversible) then it is to change after puberty has already occurred.

    Also, I'm not sure where they're getting the idea that kids just go out and do this, but that's not the case AT ALL (as I know you know Sapphire!) There is a lot of medical procedure that they have to go through in order to get these medications.
     
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    I really REALLY wish I'd known in high school that asexuality is a thing. I was never presented with that option growing up (you could either be attracted to men, women, or both) and it was very confusing and frankly, I did things that I wouldn't have likely done if I'd known that not having a desire for sex was actually normal and OK (such as having sex I didn't particularly want because I thought it was just a thing you had to do if you wanted a relationship). I found out by chance as an adult when I stumbled across it online somewhere.

    Queer kids exist, not knowing you're queer doesn't make you less queer. It just makes life a lot harder (and in some cases, more dangerous) for you while you try to figure out why you're not like your peers.
     
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    Yep. Exactly. I'm pretty sure you have to talk with a therapist for a whole before getting the meds.

    I also wish I knew about what nonbinary was because now my puberty is basically almost over now that I'm 18.
     
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    I didn't realize that I'm nonbinary until I was in my early 30s...I'm glad I don't have any physical dysphoria because it definitely would require a lot of intervention to deal with it now as opposed to when I was younger.
     
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    This is horrifying. Other states are pushing through similar bills too. I'm scared for my own well-being every time an anti-trans bill goes through any state, because that can elevate to the federal level if we're not careful. It's already bad enough for the kids living in Arkansas, since people still living with their parents don't have the option to move.
     
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    It was apparently vetoed by the governor.
     
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    The veto was overridden by state congress, unfortunately.
     
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    Because anyone who doesn’t think that children should be allowed to do these kinds of things to themselves must be transphobic, right? Do whatever you want when you’re an adult. My issue is about KIDS.
     
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    Sapphire K Autistic Pansexual Enby! (they/them) V.I.P Member

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    Did you literally not read what I said?
     
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    ACLU is planning on taking Arkansas to court soon, though. So hopefully this case can get landmarked and it'll never happen again.
     
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    And you seem to be a big fan of ad hominem insults. “Literally.”
     
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    You called medically appropriate care for transgender individuals "mutilation" and said "it makes you sick".

    Enough said. I'm only bothering to engage with you for the benefit of others that may be reading this.
     
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