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Single Men--Where Are They?

Since I have now officially become old enough to hang around with the local senior citizens' group, I've started going to some of their functions. The other night I went to a dinner dance that they sponsored in memory of the Titanic 100th anniversary. We were all given the name of a passenger and at a certain point they asked those of us who hadn't "survived" to stand up and those who did to remain seated. Nearly 2/3 of the room stood up. At some tables there wasn't a single person seated. It was visually quite impressive.

But there was another ratio that they didn't discuss and that is the ratio of men to women. Looking around the room I saw far more women at the event than there were men. I'd say that it was about the same as the ratio of survivors to those who didn't make it. Which for this particular event was probably coincidence because more men than women died on the Titanic as everyone knows. However, of the men there, only one of them appeared to have come without a partner even though I know he is married.

All of my adult life I have been told that if I want to find a decent man to forget about looking in the bars (I don't do that anyway) and concentrate on activities that I like to do, because that is where I will find someone who shares my interests and values. Go to church. Well, I have done all those things, and that has not happened. Nor is it likely to happen.

I do not know where single men my age are to be found--I mean those who are looking for a long-term female partner--but I can definitely tell you where they are NOT to be found. Forget about going to events hoping to meet up with someone who is available and looking. Very few people go to events by themselves. Very few. Think about it. And as far as volunteer work or church, by the time you get to middle age/early seniorhood, if you are female, most of the men you will come in contact with are married. Yes, there are those that are on the prowl and they unfortunately can be found anywhere but that is not what I am talking about.

In the church I am currently attending there are no single men my age and maybe one or two that are younger. Maybe. The fact is when I made enquiries nobody really knows. They know who is female and single, but not male and single. Now is this a plot to keep me from "going after" the single men or are the single men simply not there? I suspect the answer is "not there." When I was active in the abstinence movement it was the same thing. No one had any unmarried sons, brothers, male friends. There was no "there's someone I want you to meet." Unless--and this was never in a church setting--there was someone who was socially unacceptable. For some reason this was thought as a big joke to introduce the two of us oddballs. I used to enjoy going to a certain auction until some of my "friends" decided to play matchmaker and tried to fix me up with a certain guy that everyone made fun of. He wasn't interested in me and I definitely wasn't interested in him and there was absolutely nothing there except the idea of look at those two together, ha, ha, ha. You may think I am too dumb to know what is going on but trust me I do and I no longer associate with those people. That is the only matchmaking that anyone has ever done for me.

At any rate, I have accepted the fact that I will be single and I am not complaining about that. What I am talking about is all these happy hopeful people (all married) who advise people like myself to never give up hope. Why don't THEY play matchmaker then? Because the truth is--and they don't want to admit it--the odds are very much against an older never-married woman finding a partner. I read something once by a priest that said that most people get married for the first time at least in their 20's and if you see someone significantly older than that who has never married, there is usually some reason why they are not considered marriage material by the vast majority of people looking for a mate. That may sound harsh but it is true. Since there are slightly more women around than men in the United States most men who want mates usually can find find one. If a man finds himself consistently rejected by women around him, he needs to take a good hard look at himself. Unfortunately most of the men I know of who are involuntarily single also have traits that make themselves socially unacceptable. It's a sad fact of life that an abusive man has an easier time finding a woman who will put up with his abuse than someone who may be on the spectrum.

There is joke going around that I am afraid is not very nice but it goes like this: Why are men like parking lots? Because the good ones are taken and the ones left over are handicapped. This unfortunately is all too true all too often but nobody wants to come out and say it. Yes, there are online dating sites but I am not a big fan of online dating. I'm not interested in long-distance relationships. I'm old-fashioned, I'm into face-to-face relationships. Quite frankly, I know how easy it is to hide behind a screen, even with a video it's hard to really evaluate a person. I have a friend right now that is in an online relationship with a man who lives in another country and I hate to say it but I think she is going to be burned BAD. Apparently he was supposed to come to the States and be with her but all of a sudden he has run into snags trying to leave the country he is currently in and now he is asking her for money--and she is sending it to him even though she has very little herself!! But what can you say to a person in the throes of "love"? You can't. That's not to say that there aren't or can't be good online relationships that bloom into something more. But I feel it's much more risky. Besides, if the people I am around have "voted" that I'm not marriage or relationship material simply by their actions or inactions why should I think I would have any better luck with strangers.

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If I may Spinning Compass, it is a sad fact of life that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and by that I mean if you have always had partners you will find no shortage of them but if you haven?t, woe betide you.
I agree wholeheartedly in the reverse, as I am male, that the plethora of ?fish in the sea? you hear so much about has been over fished. Maybe it?s time for us to lower our standards and settle for second or third best?
 
I like that "the plethora of fish you hear about in the sea has been overfished." I think you are on to something with that.

Every now and then I used to read the singles columns in the papers just to see what was out there (and mainly for laughs). It always seemed to me that not only did the women looking for men outnumber the men looking for women the women's ads were much more interesting in that they revealed more of themselves as far as interests go. The men, on the other hand, stressed appearance. It is also an unfortunate fact of life that middle-aged women are often dumped by their husbands in favor of younger, sexier models. What this translates to for single women in their fifties and older is that their real "competition" is at least 20 years younger. Although I don't favor bringing back the Victorian concept of spinsterhood, I do think the Victorians were more realistic about a woman's chances to marry once she passes a certain age. There wasn't this idea of just have faith, someone will show up someday, you just never know. Once a woman hit 25 and was not married she knew and society knew that her chances thereafter were pretty slim. Unfortunately she didn't have many other options in life either.

Now as far as men go, yes, I have heard stories of men who have had no success in the dating/mating game because they are Christian and don't believe in sex before marriage. That girls don't want any thing to do with them. Frankly I do find this very hard to believe and I have to ask, who are they asking out that they are getting turned down/rejected/accused of being gay? Wbere are they looking? If they are not looking around at who is in the seats next to them but are going outside of the congregation to find would-be partners, if they are not even aware that there are single ladies in the church because they just aren't interested in what they see there, then I'm afraid that they need to take a good hard look at where they really are looking and what they really do want.
 
Well I cannot of course speak for all men and I certainly can’t speak for those of a religious persuasion.

I find that if you go to a bar to find a partner, you will. Just wave fifty bucks in the air, but you might not like what you get, it’s a bar after all.
Or the supermarket, find a likely sort and look in the trolley or basket, but if you’re socially inept this one might cripple you.
Nightclubs are essentially the same as the pub, except you get hearing problems in later life, at least by watching them dance you can see how physically fit they are.
Besides, you haven’t really gotten to know anybody safely beforehand in any of these scenarios so in spur of the moment situations like these you could end up with a lunatic in the weeks to follow

Then of course there are these last two options, you could mingle at work, and church. Well, I for one wouldn’t feel right about going to church to meet people as I have no religious bent and so would probably feel like a real louse.
That sort of narrows the field to virtually nil, as I said before; I am starting to think I will have to ‘settle’. Basically I just maybe have to realize that the next female, male, animal, vegetable or mineral that walks by is fair game.

Hey, that’s another option, every person you encounter from now on, just start asking them out, the bus driver, that receptionist, the postman, librarian, greengrocer, people at the park even, or what about if your getting mugged! He could be “The one”. I mean, you will get a thousand no's but you only need one yes, right? The idea of "The one" is erroneous anyhow, it should be that everyone is out there for everyone else and you just have to turn one of them into "The one". Supposedly, anybody you meet could be a potential partner, it’s what you do and they do in reaction, that tips it one way or the other.

Just don’t give up yet, it might do some of us here some good if you find someone and tell us how easy it was, that would give us the boost of confidence we need to go out and do something similar ; ]
 
Those are certainly good suggestions. And if I did find someone I would definitely share the good news with everyone here on AC.

However, my research and reading on the subject indicates that there seems to be a definite window of time age-wise in which to find a partner. Usually between ages 20 and 35. And by finding a partner I don't necessarily mean marriage. Any kind of romantic relationship, whether it is of only a few month's duration, a live-together arrangement or some other in which two people recognize themselves and are recognized by others as a couple, counts. That is why if you look at the people who do marry in their 50's and older, the vast majority of them have either been married at least once before or have had previous romantic relationships. The bad news, folks, is if you have reached late middle-age or early seniorhood and have NEVER had a romantic relationship, I am sorry, but the odds are very much stacked against you. Because along with that age window there seems to be a silent, unwritten consensus of who is and who is not relationship material. I'm not sure how this works but I am sure you have all seen it in action. The classic being the kid who is always chosen last for the team or not even chosen at all. Each person individually "votes" to exclude without ever consulting the others and yet a unanimous choice is made.

I should also clarify that the stories I have heard about Christian men being rejected because of their sexual values have all come second- and third-hand from the parents and grandparents of the men involved and not from the men themselves. So I don't consider that a reliable source of information as parents and grandparents don't always know everything especially when it comes to their unmarried children (or grandchildren's) sex lives. Since I have not heard it from the horse's mouth so to speak I am wondering if this is something that the parents/grandparents have told themselves to explain why their sons/grandsons can't seem to find a partner. It may be a case of something they want to believe rather than face some other potentially unpleasant explanations.
 
When I was single I always wondered where the single women were. I found plenty, but they were always ten or more years older than me and weren't interested in me. But if you are old enough to hang around with the senior citizens' groups, there probably are a lot more women than men, because men die younger. Church--at least the one I went to--never seemed like a good place to meet any singles. Especially because the "singles" group was packed with old widows and I was in my 20s at the time.

The one piece of advice I could give is to forget the wisdom about doing what interests you, and think about doing what interests men. Now, I am not at all an expert on what single men like to do, but I think athletic activities are more popular than church. Think about joining a hiking club or a bicycling club, running, playing golf, ice skating, or skiing (never too late to learn, and it's a great way to make winter more enjoyable). Look for bowling leagues, volleyball leagues, golf leagues, etc. If you are not in shape for athletics, start by joining a health club--they have trainers who will show you what to do, and be sure to hang out at the smoothie bar after exercising. At our age, exercise is important anyway. Especially strength training (weight lifting), which helps prevent injuries and bone loss and is more effective for weight control than cardio exercise. You will live a healthier, happier, more active senior life, even if it is without a mate.
 
"think about doing what interests men"--to a feminist this might sound like going backwards but I think you are on to something with this. Because when you look at the kinds of things that women are typically interested (not all, but a good many, especially in the church) they are not the kinds of things men are to be found doing. Unfortunately this truth (about athletic activities) was not preached to women of my generation. Women weren't expected to be athletic, they were the cheerleaders. Things have changed now. I came home from work the other day to find a whole troop of girls running down the street for the annual Girls on the Run program. As you pointed out there are health benefits to being physically active.
 
If one has to catch fish in order to appreciate fishing then fishing becomes a chore. Stop trying to catch the "BIG" one and just fish for the sake of fishing.
 

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