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What I Want, But Am I Asking Too Much?

This is what I want. I want to be friends first before I start making out sexually with someone. I want to get to know them first. I want to be with someone and feel safe. I want to take the time to let love and desire grow. And I don't want to have sex until I am ready. Is that too much to ask?

Apparently it is. It seems I am caught between two contradictory messages. One message says don't have sex until you are married. Well, there are several problems with that. First of all, I am no longer sure I want to make that big of a legal commitment to someone. Secondly, it's no longer workable. There's been too big a culture shift and I don't think the folks that promote abstinence realize it. I think they are too caught up in their own ideology and have been out of the dating game too long. Let me tell you from personal experience, there is little or no support for those who have followed the party line and found themselves on the shelf as a result. The wait-for-marriage crowd has nothing to say to never-married folks like me; what might have been sensible advice at 16 isn't so sensible at 26, 36, 46, 56--you get the picture.

Supposing someone tried to tell you that God does not approve of people owning animals. That it is wrong to even touch one or to have any kind of physical contact with someone who has touched an animal. Then they tried to tell you that it doesn't matter that the majority of people don't feel this way, you can still go out and socialize. Wouldn't you say, that's crazy? Of course that is going to affect how you socialize big time. You're going to find that your pool of potential friends are very small. But when you point this out to the person who is trying to convince you of this, you are told that God's way is not easy for a reason and if you want to be on His good side then you know what you have to sacrifice. Yeah. That's pretty much how it is.

Now for the other side of the coin. During my very first date the boy I was with forcibly tried to put his tongue in my mouth, thrust my hand down his pants and said, "I have a hard-on, do you want to see it?" Oh, such sweet romantic memories! This was not someone I'd been going out with for some time, this was not even someone that I was good friends with, it was someone who sat next to me in high school. I was 18 and had never been out on a date. I didn't know what was supposed to happen but I certainly was not prepared for this! And thus was set the pattern for my dating years. I would be approached by a guy, we'd go out together and the minute we were alone, the sexual pressuring began.

And this is what I was told by both guys and girls: that I was hung up, that I was repressed, that I was a prude. That I have unrealistic notions and expectations. That sex was fun and I ought to get with the program. I was the one with the problem, you see.

Now supposing you have been taught, as I mentioned above, that it is wrong to be around animals. Seriously, going-to-hell-wrong. And someone comes up to you with a great big Rottweiler and shoves it at you? And when you protest, you are told, get over your hangup. Lots of people like being around dogs, it's normal to be around dogs. But what about your choice whether to be around dogs. Well, honey, that's too bad, if you want to be out in society you'd better get with it and start accepting dogs. In fact it's mandatory that you be around them. Here they come, dragged by the collars and thrown at you, big ones, little ones, barking, slobbering. Oh, yes, that approach is guaranteed to make anyone a dog-lover all right!

Somewhere in between these two extremes there has got to be a happy medium. But I haven't found it. And I am wondering, am I asking too much of life? That if option number one is unworkable I can only go with option number two and try not to flinch when that Great Dane puts his paws on my chest and slobbers all over my face? After all, this is supposed to be fun, right? This is supposed to be what it is all about, right?

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I've been thinking something similar... for the past 15 years or so. And they "blame" us aspies for thinking black and white, hah.

Mind you, not specifically the sexual/intimate stuff though, but pets might very well be one of those things adressed. There's also the entire notion that you either get married and presumably be happy, or live on your own, and presumably stay a miserable bachelor for your entire life. Apparently there's little to no grey area where you can be in a relationship and actually be happy, whilst not sharing a place together.

I don't know if it's expecting too much out of life, or if it's just that a lot of people don't have any expectations at all. I'm convinced the majority does not take everyday life with a certain degree of scrutiny and wonder if it all actually makes sense. People clearly just go with the program, because everyone else does... and obviously everyone seems so happy. Who cares if people are crying on the inside, you can't see it, so the majority of the ignorant minds think it doesn't exist.

One of the things I've addressed many times before, and is a similar case; internet use in this day and age. I'm online, and probably a lot to add with that, but it's one of those things that's required and you just need to get with the program. I sometimes wish I could just disconnect, but I'd probably just catapult myself back to the stone age... because I'd disconnect me from any and all services as well. Much like the example of trying really hard to cut ties to everyone who ever had a pet, you'd be hard pressed to stay the true self and just hook up with "offline" people. And perhaps if you're past the age of 50, there's people that don't own a computer (and perhaps geographic location is part of it as well), but at age 30, it's an even bigger factor I think. Having this kind of ideology is turning into a game with the skill level set to "expert", which makes life n-times more difficult.

The example you raise with marriage and intimate relationships; while it's not an impossible thing, the older you get, the harder it gets IMO. Slowly you're drifting towards that point of no return, though the pace of that depends on the mileage you want out of that commitment. I always find that certain commitments, and it's not just pets add in more factors, but in my experience people never understand the other side of the coin. I'm not quite sure what that is... maybe it's sheer blindness by the happiness they get from their own positive predicament. I, for one, gave up on reasoning with anyone who had pets on their reason why they had pets since it quickly deteriorated in an "but everyone loves animals!" type of deal. You can't reason with either this blindness or madness.

It's also a subject I discussed to great lengths with therapists, where they pretty much told me... "well, you can give in a bit"... yeah sure, I can compromise a bit (emphasis; a bit). Until I ask how much compromise is ok. And it turned silent...
 
It's just that there is such a profound disconnect between what I want and what I actually get. And what I am told about it. So let me put it this way: when I agree to go out with person X--and I barely know person X, I am just going out with them for the first time--what am I agreeing to? Have I given unspoken consent to being kissed and sexually groped? Is this normal, is this what is to be expected?

The problem is I think many times when I've had conversations with people about sex they think I am talking about relationship sex. Where two people have gotten to know each other and they've come to a crossroads in their lives, like what happened with one member here a while back. That's not what I am talking about at all! What I am talking about is when two people first meet and one starts making sexual demands right off the bat. And the other person says wait a minute, we don't even know each other, this is not part of my value system for whatever reason. Is the person who refuses the one with the problem? Is there even a right of refusal under the circumstances? That it is NOT rape or sexual abuse when it occurs in a dating situation?

Sad to say, I think that for many people the answer is yes, even people who ought to know better. A while back I stepped out to visit a neighbor for a minute and foolishly left my door unlocked. In the short time I was gone, another neighbor saw a guy enter my house and then leave. He didn't take anything, all he did was use the toilet. From the description they gave of him I knew exactly who it was, someone I worked with but did not really have any interaction with and who had come around once before stone drunk. Now's here's the interesting part, when I filed a complaint with the police they acted like this was a boyfriend-girlfriend dispute! Apparently, just because we worked at the same place and I might have smiled at him in the hallway once or twice that gave him the right to enter my house and use my bathroom. The cop even said, Well, I have friends who do that all the time. I practically screamed at him HE IS NOT MY FRIEND!!!! What part of NOT MY FRIEND do you not understand? I am telling you I do not want this man around. HE IS NOT MY BOYFRIEND! HE IS AN INTRUDER! What part of that don't you understand?

It is precisely because of this sort of misunderstanding and denial that I have anger issues--I won't deny it--when it comes to the area of sex. I used the analogy of the dogs because I think people can understand that there is a vast difference between being invited by the dog's owner to pet the dog and having a dog leap on you and being told by the owner that you are the problem for objecting. I chose that analogy because people can relate. They can talk about it. They understand. But when you talk about sex, especially unwanted sex or not yet wanted sex, that is a whole different ballgame.

I like how you ended "until I ask how much compromise is ok. And it turned silent . . ." Ain't that the truth!
 

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